Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

[CyberCubed]

Marvel movies are relatively new to the modern audience. But like we've had so many different actors play Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, and Peter Parker...we'll eventually see all the Avengers recasted and people will accept it over time as well.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Marvel movies are relatively new to the modern audience. But like we've had so many different actors play Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, and Peter Parker...we'll eventually see all the Avengers recasted and people will accept it over time as well.

The MCU has been going on since 2008 that's over a decade, remember how ancient of a movie Return of the Jedi seemed to us as kids? well ROTJ was only 13 years old same as the first iron man movie right now in 1996 when the special editions came out.

Also by the time Iron Man came out Marvel wasn't some new game in town, we had been bombarded by Marvel movies since the year 2000, we averaged 2 marvel movies per year basically, by the time Iron Man came out the super hero genre had already been bloated for a while, the only reason it succeeded was because it tried something new with continuity.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The thing is, MCU fans should already be braced for such a thing. All the way since getting like back to back to back new Hulk actors, right at the start of the MCU. Or Rhodey? Now suddenly it's a problem?

Well even the MCU seems to pretend The incredible hulk didn't really happen, so it's not surprising. Rhodey also happened in the third MCU movie so people were forgiving and it was mostly nerds who noticed, I bet many didn't realize he was the same person from the first Iron Man movie and overall less people invested in the characters. The bigger the MCU got the more you get these crazies who want characters retired.

It was the same crap when Heath Ledger died, I remember there were petitions for the character The Joker to never be played by anyone else ever again in live action. Had TDK not been an ending to the nolan trilogy and they had left it open for more movies I sure as hell would've wanted ar ecasted joker to fight batman in that same continuity.

Nolan did it right in his first two movies by not really killing the villains. Scarecrow escapes and shows up in the sequels, Joker doesn't fall and die but is caught by Batman. Sure Ra's "dies" but we don't actually see him die so you could argue he survived somic book style. They did mess up with Two Face, they should've kept him alive, no reason in killing him, would've given us a good secondary villain that was already set up for the third movie.

I think after ledgers death nolan just didn't care to continue it to leave it open ended so that's why he decided to give everyone a definite end.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

Well even the MCU seems to pretend The incredible hulk didn't really happen, so it's not surprising.

Abomination is literally appearing in She-Hulk, reprised by Tim Roth (and I guess he very nearly appeared in Avengers 2). With Ruffalo as Hulk in tow. And there's been General Ross since Civil War. And the events of Incredible Hulk seen on-screen in Iron Man 2. Also in newspapers on the walls of the New York Bulletin in Daredevil.

It was the same crap when Heath Ledger died, I remember there were petitions for the character The Joker to never be played by anyone else ever again in live action. Had TDK not been an ending to the nolan trilogy and they had left it open for more movies I sure as hell would've wanted ar ecasted joker to fight batman in that same continuity.

Nolan did it right in his first two movies by not really killing the villains. Scarecrow escapes and shows up in the sequels, Joker doesn't fall and die but is caught by Batman. Sure Ra's "dies" but we don't actually see him die so you could argue he survived somic book style. They did mess up with Two Face, they should've kept him alive, no reason in killing him, would've given us a good secondary villain that was already set up for the third movie.

I think after ledgers death nolan just didn't care to continue it to leave it open ended so that's why he decided to give everyone a definite end.

And yet, recast Katie Holmes and nobody fusses over anything.

I dunno. If the intention was for Nolan to grow the Batman corner of some kind of nascent DC cinematic universe... then of course they should have recasted Ledger and that should've been that. But just as some 3 movie and done thing? It's unfortunate, but whatever. Joker could have added a lot to TDKR, though.

[ZariusTwo]

Official plot details reveal Wakanda and Atlantis will clash in the movie over Vibranium, and their interconnected histories will be explored

https://www.cbr.com/black-panther-2-...ampaign=CBR-TW

[Andrew NDB]

Well, that means Namor for sure. And I'm guessing they're not going to cast an elfish-looking white dude. Which is fine. I don't really know a lot of Namor fans anyway.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I dunno. If the intention was for Nolan to grow the Batman corner of some kind of nascent DC cinematic universe... then of course they should have recasted Ledger and that should've been that. But just as some 3 movie and done thing? It's unfortunate, but whatever. Joker could have added a lot to TDKR, though.

AFAIK, Nolan specifically didn't want to make anything resembling cinematic universe.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Sumac

AFAIK, Nolan specifically didn't want to make anything resembling cinematic universe.

Yeah... but given different reports, some tell a story of him being pressured into doing so and basically being like, "No, F off" or at least convincing them to stop pressuring him so. Some say that it very nearly was that. Though even going into "Man of Steel"... if they'd wanted to they could have even then made Nolan's movies part of it. I tend to think that Nolan knew they might consider this... so he intentionally "salted the earth" a bit with TDKR to make sure they wouldn't (basically everybody knows he was Batman, retired, Wayne Manor is an orphanage above the batcave, etc.).

[Autbot_Benz]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black...a-coel-a186644

Marvel's Black Panther: Wakanda Forever has cast British actress/writer/producer/director/singer Michaela Coel in a mysterious role.

Variety reports that the I May Destroy You star has signed on for Ryan Coogler's sequel, but don't provide any details whatsoever on who she might be playing. As you might expect, there's already a lot of speculation that Coel could take on the role of X-Men's Ororo Monroe, aka Storm, who has been rumored to make her MCU debut in the movie. There are obviously other possibilities, though, as the movie has also been rumored to feature a female villain.

[Jester]

Something dawned on me this afternoon as my wife and I were discussing the MCU...I think it started with a way to bring in Dr. Doom...but eventually we hit on T'challa.
It started with wondering if Sakovia still existed post snap, and if T'challa's plan to open Wakanda was reversed since he was snapped....and then realizing that he was gone for the whole 5 years, presumed dead anyway just like all the snapped, so who is the monarch of Wakanda? Would T'challa fight to get the mantel back after being gone for 5 years? Or would he let the person who now sits on Wakanda's thrown stay, and leave Wakanda and see the world, where he meets an unfortunate end?

[Autbot_Benz]

Ironheart will make her debut appearance in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Marvel boss Kevin Feige has confirmed.

Speaking to Comicbook.com, Feige said: “We’re shooting Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, right now, and the character of Riri Williams, you will meet in Black Panther 2 first.

https://www.nme.com/news/film/marvel...ther-2-3025016

[Autbot_Benz]

bumped to

11/11/22

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...se-date-delay/

[Andrew NDB]

Temporarily shuts down production:

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/bl...dRMARpS7zSXrRE

[ZariusTwo]

Reportedly the ending to the movie has been changed, due to ongoing drama with Letitia Wright (major spoiler)

https://twitter.com/MyTimeToShineH/s...ad%3Fpage%3D95

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Reportedly the ending to the movie has been changed, due to ongoing drama with Letitia Wright (major spoiler)

https://twitter.com/MyTimeToShineH/s...ad%3Fpage%3D95

Dumb. Dumb that they were going to give it to her, dumb that they're giving it to him, and dumb that they took it away from her for vaccine blowback. Assuming any of this is true.

They're going to market this as a big "farewell to Chadwick" wake to get everyone teary eyed to get those Heath Ledger/Paul Walker dollars while throwing everything he worked so hard to build into the toilet. Or the grave. Or both.

[Sumac]

I don't want to believe its all, because, of vaccine drama, but with Holyweird today, who knows?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I don't want to believe its all, because, of vaccine drama, but with Holyweird today, who knows?

You can bet the farm it's vaccine drama. If she was a white guy they would have plastered that all the over news and look down on um.. him as the main cause of all this trouble. But she's a black woman so.....

These are problems caused by following the retarded mandates and also by being so glued to the narrative they don't know what to do when one of their fellow woke leftists decides to go off script.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Reportedly the ending to the movie has been changed, due to ongoing drama with Letitia Wright (major spoiler)

https://twitter.com/MyTimeToShineH/s...ad%3Fpage%3D95

Are you gonna believe some random tweet as the source? I did a google search and non of the big news sites are reporting this, Or anything about her being fired, So this is all fake.

[ProphetofGanja]

I think it's so unfair how Letitia is being bullied by Disney with their vaccine mandate

[Andrew NDB]

They fired Gina Carano for sharing a meme. What do you expect?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

They fired Gina Carano for sharing a meme. What do you expect?

Fired AND vilified to the point where bringing up her name causes arguments depending on your politics.

That's the part that gets me. Rather than everyone seeing how stupid and unfair Disney was for doing that, there's this small divide among the people that agree it's stupid and those that actually side with Disney and think she is a terrible person.

I've learned to shut my mouth about her whenever people bad mouth her and act like she deserved to get fired. The woke crazies jump all over you if you bring up 'but Gina did nothing wrong though?'.

I need a new group of friends, it sucks that longtime friends I had are the same people I can't openly discuss Gina, vaccines or Rittenhouse without causing a shitshow or losing some of em. Like everything is good until these 'hot button issues' come up and I'm getting sick and tired of having to either have no opinion or feeling forced to agree with the majority. I have a voice too and I'm sick of it always being the wrong one. I guess it was easier in the old days when everyone just hated Trump.