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I'm totally not against a "Ninja Turtles" title as long as they're not teenagers in it and it's mature material. It's the perfect title for such. It didn't suit... that movie, though. "Bulletproof Hulk Fake Turtles" might have been the most apt title.
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02-21-2022, 03:32 AM | #1162 | |
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Making the Turtles hulks in both size and strength was the worst thing they or anyone could do. Hero's in any franchise need a weakness. I always think the Turtles weakness is their size - they can be overpowered individually, but as a team they can defeat most adversaries. (I'll hold my hands up and say I was in support of the 2014 movie before, during and immediate aftermath, but can now see and not afraid to admit the plot, design, direction was so so bad).
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02-21-2022, 03:42 AM | #1163 |
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In all honesty, yeah. At least then it'd be easier to discard out of sleight. Or at least compartmentalize as this independent thing that isn't even trying to be TMNT as we know it.
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02-21-2022, 03:24 PM | #1164 | |
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02-21-2022, 04:37 PM | #1165 |
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The backlash around the 2014 PD movie originally being titled "Ninja Turtles" was because they were removing the mutant component of their origin and making them aliens instead. That's why they took Teenage and Mutant out of the title.
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02-21-2022, 04:45 PM | #1166 | |
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I'm of the opinion that the title Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was a big part of drawing people into the original comics and animated series. The outlandish strangeness of the title and the basic premise is something you have to look at. After so many decades for the franchise to be almost ever present in mainstream pop culture and being displaced by even more outlandish things like Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy a case could be made for dropping the teenage mutant part of the title. I imagine if they ever do get around to making the live action reboot then the subject of whether they want a third movie to carry the same name; simply calling it Ninja Turtles might be a way to go regardless of the age of the characters. Also in the long shot hope it is a darker movie than it could be a good signifier that it is more adult fare. |
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02-21-2022, 05:46 PM | #1167 |
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I think the title survived even after they discarded the aliens angle and script. It was jettisoned at the same time as white guy Shredder as a PR move.
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02-21-2022, 06:04 PM | #1168 |
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02-21-2022, 06:36 PM | #1169 |
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"What Went Wrong?" "Every Single F*cking Thing."
There, now nobody has to waste 37 minutes on that video.
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Yeah, the alien idea was terrible if that's the real reason they shortened the title.
Blue Door was an interesting read and, while it had some redeeming qualities in its storytelling (that I'm sure would have then turned out half-assed on screen ), most of all I really disliked how they ended it. I get that they were trying to make it emotionally impactful, but removing the brothers not only from Earth as their home but also from each other forever was just a heartbreaking and depressing note to end something on. If anyone is interested in looking it over again (or for the first time) I went and dug up Blue Door -- because I'll always love the writer's awkward use of "eye-f***ing" post-Turtle fight like he didn't know that sounds really wrong. Spoiler:
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02-22-2022, 04:16 AM | #1171 | ||
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So here is how the script describes Bebop and Rocksteady:
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02-22-2022, 07:30 AM | #1172 |
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That actually sounds kind of fun. I'm sure the movie would have been a trainwreck but I may have liked it more.
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02-22-2022, 08:26 AM | #1173 | |
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I listened to interviews with Megan Fox about how she got the role, and she was quoted as telling the producers that they "can find a better actress, but they will not find a bigger fan (of the Turtles)" ... the moment the heard this, it was clear to me they were already going in a bad direction. Personally, I dont care how much the cast and crew are fans, so long as they have artistic integrity to respect the material, and put forth a solid representation. I dont much like Rogen, but hes been associated with enough successful comic-related material that it makes me hopeful, but again, his leaning on the 'teenage' side of things makes me wary. I hear 'teen' movie, I immediately goofy comedy, filled with fart jokes, and teen angst, which I am not really interested in watching.
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02-25-2022, 09:43 AM | #1175 |
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The villains
I read that there also going to be movies or series focusing on the villains?
Where can I find info about which characters? |
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02-25-2022, 10:30 AM | #1177 |
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It's supposed to be those villain movies that are the new TMNT content they were hinting at for Paramount+, right?
If the Turtles are generally absent from them...I guess I now feel less annoyed about it being stuck on the one streaming source. |
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We get these villain movies setting up those characters, and then they appear in the live action movie reboot. |
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02-25-2022, 03:23 PM | #1179 |
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So you're taking it to the comics direction..
What about the more mainstream ones from recent years such as the one that everyone talking about - Scratch and gave him and Hot Spot a mutual show? |
02-25-2022, 07:06 PM | #1180 |
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Care to rephrase that? Because I didn't understand what you were trying to convey.
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