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Personally, I'd like Nagi to pop up in IDW as Karai's father, once again placing him back into the mythos as well as connecting him to Saki.
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I would have loved a casual flashback of Saki and Nagi as teens together or something. Sad thing is, noone of the Oroku family is alive to have said flashback.
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But wasn't Saki over 10 years Nagi's junior?
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Oh wow. You're right. Then I don't know... Maybe Saki showing young Nagi a few katas? I don't know. Fishing by the lake? Just anything with those two hangin before Nagi ever decided to join the Foot.
I forgot if Saki was already a Foot member or if he joined it as a means to get his revenge.
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The way I see it, if a version of TMNT uses Nagi or not seems to depend on how they want to portray the other characters. Nagi may seem like a very minor aspect, but make no mistake: just because he's a minor character doesn't mean that the effects he has on the story are minor. A character can be minor and still have major effects on the narrative.
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If the idea is to have blood on Splinter's hands, I'd say the killing of Shredder is a portrayal of that. Anyway, ultimately I don't have a problem with Nagi, just expressing that I think there could be some workarounds so that there are fewer undeveloped and expendable characters.
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It would be interesting if Oroku Nagi somehow survived the Hamato Yoshi encounter.
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Definitely unrealized story and character potential with Nagi. It would definitely be interesting to see Saki's reaction.
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Would definitely make for a compelling story.
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The argument has already been made that Splinter in the Mirage universe is kind of a shady guy, so...
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I'm just saying, what if after Yoshi and Shen walked away, Nagi wasn't really dead. And years later he shows up.
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I understand his absence in FW catoons, to simplify the story, as well, Hamato Yoshi killed Nagi, was too dark to show up in the OT's. In 2k3 Shedder wasn't human, is way it was impossible to put Nagi, although the other Oroku Saki who is Tengu Shredder, could have a brother named Oroku Nagi. In cartoons again, if Hamato Yoshi is Splinter, again to simplify the story Nagi was abstent. But in IDW, i don't see any problem to put Oroku Nagi, this time in another situation.
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1. Oroku Saki is made PURE EVIL. He's a attempted rapist and a murderer. Not a grieving brother out for revenge. 2. Hamato yoshi is made PURE GOOD. Yoshi just acts when threatened and never actually kills anyone. Sure even Mirage Yoshi acts because Nagi attacked Tang Shen, but he flat killed a dude. It's still a murder that makes him less than just "The Good Guy."
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Yeah, points to Mirage for making the morality of the Cycle of Vengeance very grey for a black and white comic compared to other Turtles media.
Andrew's probably tenting his fingers like Mr. Burns as I type.
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Blame/Thank the property becoming more mainstream. For the sake of movies and TV aimed (primarily) at kids, the protagonist and antagonist need to be much more cut-and-dry.
Although his brother getting killed hardly justifies Saki trying to rape Tang Shen in any way, let alone kill her. And I'm not a huge fan of Splinter as a douche. So I've always looked at the changes as improvements, really. So much of Mirage #1 would likely have been written differently had they known they were building the foundation for another 30+ years of stories, instead of a one-shot parody book.
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