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Old 03-18-2022, 09:13 AM   #241
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Its time for YouTube, I guess, to be blocked.
So together with WhatsApp, Facebook and Instagram, it means that pretty much most of the major outlets are blocked in Russia.

Of course, it won't stop information flow through in the country. Heck, even USSR was unable to stop it completely and it was before Internet, but it certainly will make life of thousands, if not millions of people harder. All so one single person could've been satisfied with his height.
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Old 03-18-2022, 11:12 AM   #242
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Old 03-18-2022, 11:20 AM   #243
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stfu, Arnold. Make King Conan or go away. Wasn't it last week he was lecturing us on how it's patriotic to give up freedoms?
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Old 03-18-2022, 12:40 PM   #244
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I'd say since Nikolay II get to power.
Everything that had happened with my country in 20 century was result of his stupidity and incompetence.
Not entirely accurate. As with all monarchs, odds are his successor would've done a better job. Instead, Marxism gained a foothold on the global stage, split off into its many forms including socialism and fascism, and has been causing untold misery and death to millions of people the world over to this very day. But what else could we expect from an ideology that was baptized in the blood of the innocent Romanov children?
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Old 03-18-2022, 03:53 PM   #245
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Old 03-18-2022, 08:29 PM   #246
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Not entirely accurate. As with all monarchs, odds are his successor would've done a better job.
For this previous one should maintain empire to have a successor. Nikolai II failed to do that and its on him.
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Old 03-20-2022, 05:43 PM   #247
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Uh oh, my city is getting involved:

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/sea...PV26BH4XM4HO4/
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Old 03-21-2022, 03:15 PM   #248
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For this previous one should maintain empire to have a successor. Nikolai II failed to do that and its on him.
I still blame the commies for the Russia-shaped sinkhole the nation has become. There were far worse czars than Nikolai II which Russia and its people managed to survive, and at any rate, his children were entirely innocent. There was no call for how it went down. The exact same fear that led Lenin to order the Romanovs' execution also drove Putin to his recent actions in Ukraine. They're the exact same evil.
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Old 03-21-2022, 08:45 PM   #249
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I still blame the commies for the Russia-shaped sinkhole the nation has become. There were far worse czars than Nikolai II which Russia and its people managed to survive, and at any rate, his children were entirely innocent. There was no call for how it went down. The exact same fear that led Lenin to order the Romanovs' execution also drove Putin to his recent actions in Ukraine. They're the exact same evil.
Yeah, commies are too blame for most problems Russia faces today, but Nikolay II was the reason why they ended up in power in the first place.
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Old 03-22-2022, 03:58 PM   #250
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Yeah, commies are too blame for most problems Russia faces today, but Nikolay II was the reason why they ended up in power in the first place.
In a way, yes. They've always seen weakness in others, whether real or perceived, as the perfect opportunity for a power grab.
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Old 03-22-2022, 04:01 PM   #251
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This piece is a bit interesting:

https://thehill.com/policy/internati...-russia-banned

Apparently Zalensky banned all political parties (claiming they're all friendly to Russia) from Ukraine except his party? And then killed all the news outlets except one?

Eh. It sort of makes sense during this but... isn't that a pretty awful precedent? I don't see a lot of talk about it.

Imagine if Biden decided one day, "Only the democrat party is the party of non-nazis... all other parties are hereby banned! And there can only be CNN from this moment on!" That may not be apples to apples and obviously we're not in the middle of getting invaded, but is it that far off of a comparison beyond that?
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Old 03-22-2022, 04:46 PM   #252
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Imagine if Biden decided one day, "Only the democrat party is the party of non-nazis... all other parties are hereby banned! And there can only be CNN from this moment on!" That may not be apples to apples and obviously we're not in the middle of getting invaded, but is it that far off of a comparison beyond that?
I sort of chalk that up to a difference in culture.

It would be insanely difficult for him to try that in the USA. Barring the multitude of lawsuits and the inevitable removal from office (I cant imagine enough democrats being in agreement with this to stop whatever legal process there would be for that)... Other farther things that people are falling over themselves to be afraid of would happen.
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Old 03-22-2022, 04:49 PM   #253
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Yeah, commies are too blame for most problems Russia faces today, but Nikolay II was the reason why they ended up in power in the first place.
The Russo-Japanese War in 1905 was a world showcase for how poorly equipped Russia was militarily and being manipulated by Gregori Rasputin blinded by the need for a healthy male heir. He may have been a decent family man, but he did not help his cause with multiple public gaffes. Alexander III undid most reforms of his own father forming an autocracy which Nicholas II inherited and initially attempted to emulate. Nicholas II had a lot working against him because of the situation in which he inherited more than anything.

Reports are suggesting the resistance of Ukraine is heading the conflict to a stalemate. Without military reinforcement I would not have thought it would be possible.
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This piece is a bit interesting:

https://thehill.com/policy/internati...-russia-banned

Apparently Zalensky banned all political parties (claiming they're all friendly to Russia) from Ukraine except his party? And then killed all the news outlets except one?

Eh. It sort of makes sense during this but... isn't that a pretty awful precedent? I don't see a lot of talk about it.

Imagine if Biden decided one day, "Only the democrat party is the party of non-nazis... all other parties are hereby banned! And there can only be CNN from this moment on!" That may not be apples to apples and obviously we're not in the middle of getting invaded, but is it that far off of a comparison beyond that?
... How about this, what if Biden did that during an invasion from the UK, where the UK justified it because the US used to be part of the British Empire and the UK was somehow the bigger power? I know that's an absurd scenario but that's more or less what the American version of this war would be.
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Old 03-22-2022, 05:12 PM   #255
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Reports are suggesting the resistance of Ukraine is heading the conflict to a stalemate. Without military reinforcement I would not have thought it would be possible.
Not a good place to be in, though. If Putin has his back against a wall with Ukraine and has nothing to show for the invasion... that's when the tactical nukes will come out.

And we still won't do a thing. Just send more rocket launchers and speeches.

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... How about this, what if Biden did that during an invasion from the UK, where the UK justified it because the US used to be part of the British Empire and the UK was somehow the bigger power? I know that's an absurd scenario but that's more or less what the American version of this war would be.
Yeah, if the UK and US sizes were flipped that's just about right.
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Old 03-22-2022, 06:12 PM   #256
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This piece is a bit interesting:

https://thehill.com/policy/internati...-russia-banned

Apparently Zalensky banned all political parties (claiming they're all friendly to Russia) from Ukraine except his party? And then killed all the news outlets except one?

Eh. It sort of makes sense during this but... isn't that a pretty awful precedent? I don't see a lot of talk about it.
In practical terms, this is the same as sending the entire Slytherin House to the dungeons during the Battle of Hogwarts. Just a good idea in the current juncture, especially considering the country's recent separatist/civil strife which makes some people more likely to hinder than help the war effort. The opposition will thank Zelensky when there's still a country left to bicker over.
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:02 AM   #257
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This piece is a bit interesting:

https://thehill.com/policy/internati...-russia-banned

Apparently Zalensky banned all political parties (claiming they're all friendly to Russia) from Ukraine except his party? And then killed all the news outlets except one?

Eh. It sort of makes sense during this but... isn't that a pretty awful precedent? I don't see a lot of talk about it.

Imagine if Biden decided one day, "Only the democrat party is the party of non-nazis... all other parties are hereby banned! And there can only be CNN from this moment on!" That may not be apples to apples and obviously we're not in the middle of getting invaded, but is it that far off of a comparison beyond that?
Can't say I've heard of it, due to prevalent positive cover of Ukraine in anti-Putin media, but I think it can justified right now, since the last thing they need are some political activists sabotaging attempts to save Ukraine from the inside. And given that FSB-Russia had a large role in the Ukrainian politics it makes sense.

Of course, there is a question what will happen after this conflict is over, but right now it is not that important.

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The Russo-Japanese War in 1905 was a world showcase for how poorly equipped Russia was militarily and being manipulated by Gregori Rasputin blinded by the need for a healthy male heir. He may have been a decent family man, but he did not help his cause with multiple public gaffes. Alexander III undid most reforms of his own father forming an autocracy which Nicholas II inherited and initially attempted to emulate. Nicholas II had a lot working against him because of the situation in which he inherited more than anything.
Indeed, but the blame is on him in the end - he had plenty of advisors who attempted to sway him in a more "democratic" direction and he ****ed it up every single time until it was too late. WW1 didn't help matters, of course.

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Reports are suggesting the resistance of Ukraine is heading the conflict to a stalemate. Without military reinforcement I would not have thought it would be possible.
I am afraid it is temporarily - Russian army is still bigger and they simply have more weapons.

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Not a good place to be in, though. If Putin has his back against a wall with Ukraine and has nothing to show for the invasion... that's when the tactical nukes will come out.

And we still won't do a thing. Just send more rocket launchers and speeches.
Once again, do you suggest starting nuclear war?
I agree with the sentiment, that NATO, US and Europe look very flaccid in this situation, but on the other hand, its not some shithole in the desert they are dealing with, sadly. It is a country with nuclear weapon and given state of Russian politics, it won't take much before nukes fly.

So, what suggestions do you have? How they can interfere without kickstarting nuclear parade?

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Ol' Joe's diplomatic skills and ability to keep his mouth shut in crucial moments rival those of Little Carmine from The Sopranos. Who knew?
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Old 03-27-2022, 12:58 PM   #259
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Ol' Joe's diplomatic skills and ability to keep his mouth shut in crucial moments rival those of Little Carmine from The Sopranos. Who knew?
What did he said this time?
Is that about his line where he called Putin "butcher"?
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Old 03-27-2022, 01:09 PM   #260
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Once again, do you suggest starting nuclear war?
I agree with the sentiment, that NATO, US and Europe look very flaccid in this situation, but on the other hand, its not some shithole in the desert they are dealing with, sadly. It is a country with nuclear weapon and given state of Russian politics, it won't take much before nukes fly.

So, what suggestions do you have? How they can interfere without kickstarting nuclear parade?
No, not suggesting nuclear war. I have no suggestions at this point. It's too late. The idea was to prevent the invasion from even beginning but our administration is weak so it happened. Nothing to be done now.
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