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Old 07-23-2016, 09:57 AM   #1
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Batman and Harley

http://www.superherohype.com/news/37...d-films-coming

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Finally, the 2017 lineup of DC Universe Original Movies concludes with Batman and Harley Quinn, a brand new, wholly original story from DC animation legend Bruce Timm. The storyline for this one is tightly under wraps, but considering Timm’s beloved style and complete understanding of both these classic characters, fans can expect this movie to be the talk of next summer
And if KJ is anything to go by, they'll be yapping about it for all the wrong reasons

Bruce Timm with no filter is no better than Miller.
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Old 07-23-2016, 12:20 PM   #2
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And if KJ is anything to go by, they'll be yapping about it for all the wrong reasons

Bruce Timm with no filter is no better than Miller.
We already got a Harley Quinn sex scene in Assault on Arkham.

One shudders to think what we're going to get here, especially after the atrocity of "Killing Joke"...
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Old 07-23-2016, 12:23 PM   #3
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Fingers cross it could turn out well. Maybe they can bring Paul Dini aboard to collaborate.
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Harley screwing Batman confirmed.

*shudders*
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:17 PM   #5
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Anticipation of this project really revs up my Harley, if you know what mean.

Wish they'd remaster TAS for blu ray.
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Old 07-23-2016, 02:06 PM   #6
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Why not. BatMAN can go thrown the entire ladies of Gotham.

First Catwoman in the comics, I can buy that, they always had a thing for each other, and really try there best to lived around it.

Batgirl in the new movie. And now Harley, he just needs to work on Ivy, and why stop in Gotham? If he can have Batgirl, Superman's home town is not that far away, so he can stop on by and get Supergirl. lol.
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Harley Quinn was a pretty neat character before she went mainstream... I guess this'll just be her in another skimpy outfit, just like in Suicide Squad.

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Wish they'd remaster TAS for blu ray.
Timm thinks a remaster would take away from the gritty look of the series, and I agree.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:16 PM   #8
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Fingers cross it could turn out well. Maybe they can bring Paul Dini aboard to collaborate.
We can only pray that Paul Dini comes on board that way he can make sure his character is properly portrayed.

Also it makes me wonder how the killing joke would have been portrayed if Paul Dini got the nod instead of Bruce Timm.
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What's going on here? Why is everybody all angry?
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Old 07-24-2016, 03:39 AM   #10
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What's going on here? Why is everybody all angry?
Bruce Timm's having a mid-life crisis.
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What's going on here? Why is everybody all angry?
Simple; everyone is angry because a beloved character has been reduced to a thing, the object of pursuit, conquest, and vengeance. It fails the character and accomplishes the opposite of what the creators initially claimed to desire for this character's expanded role in the story.
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We already got a Harley Quinn sex scene in Assault on Arkham.

One shudders to think what we're going to get here, especially after the atrocity of "Killing Joke"...
Besides the whole Bruce/Babara thing I thought it was pretty awesome. Or was that the reason you didn't like it? I can understand that. What were WB thinking when they threw that in?
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Besides the whole Bruce/Babara thing I thought it was pretty awesome. Or was that the reason you didn't like it? I can understand that. What were WB thinking when they threw that in?
That is my reason. I've watched the various clips to see for myself, but on principle, I'm not financially supporting this.
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I still don't understand. She can get raped, but can't have sex, because that makes her an object?

I do not get it.
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The plot of this movie is probably Batman impregnating Harley and then 9 months later Harley confronting Batman to pay child support.

Oh god, that's going to be the plot, isn't it? Then Joker will find out Harley has "Bat babies" and be enraged and try to kill her and her kids, and Batman will come to the rescue as usual. Truly sounds like bad shipper fanfiction brought to life.

Bruce Timm, what happened to you? What a fall from grace.
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:27 PM   #16
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Bruce Timm is a pervert?
Batgirl/Batman relationship?

Funny thing is both of these things have been known for nearly 20 years.
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I still don't understand. She can get raped, but can't have sex, because that makes her an object?

I do not get it.
Nor do I. It didn't bother me all that much, but I can see why some people are upset. Personally I was just bored waiting for the actual storyline from the comic to show up. 31 mins it took. 31 mins.
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I still don't understand. She can get raped, but can't have sex, because that makes her an object?

I do not get it.
#1. It is never stated that Barbara was raped. In most media, the Joker is absolutely asexual with no interest in copulating. The Joker has no interest in Harley Quinn, but is instead disturbingly fixated at Batman. The only instance I know of where this is not true is the Joker graphic novel by Brian Azzarello.

#2. The Joker's goal is to break Jim Gordon's mind, not break Barbara. Given the Joker's widely accepted asexual nature (see #1), many of us (us being Batman fans) have understood that the Joker went no further than stripping her and posing her naked body. Flashing horrible images at Jim with no explanation or cause.

#3. Batman has never engaged in sexual relationships with his family, the only exception being Bruce Timm's Batman TAS series where it is implied that Babs and Bruce had a thing. Any comics that followed up on this (Batman Beyond) were explicitly a continuation of that animated continuity, NOT main DC/Batman continuity. Thus, non-canon.

#4. WERE Batman to engage in a sexual relationship with Barbara, it damages Bruce's character and moral reputation. We frown on teachers having sex with their students because even if the teacher does not initiate and the student is of legal age, the teacher is in a position of authority and is seen as having abused that position of authority. Right or wrong, this IS unarguably the cultural view of such relationships. (And is most often the legal view as well, such as at many colleges, universities, and other educational bodies.)

#5. Yes, Barbara Gordon was already just in this story as a victim. The producers and writers of this adaptation told us up front that they wanted to expand on her role. What they chose did not serve the character well, simply enforcing that Babs is just around for sex or eye candy, to be used or discarded by the men in the story as they see fit.

What they SHOULD have done was make this Barbara's story as well as Batman's. Show Barbara first becoming Batgirl in flashbacks, show snippets of her career leading up to this moment, show her crippled and abused, and then end the story with showing Barbara refusing to give up and be a victim, but to continue her own quest for justice by serving as Oracle. THAT'S how you do justice to Barbara Gordon.
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IMHO, one of the things that makes the DCAU all ages friendly and yet very adult is how good they are at implying the relationships...like how Hades might be Diana's father, or the developments betwen John Stewart and Hawkgirl, or the problematic aspects of the Joker/Harley pairing. Batman and Superman have great respect for each other, despite their personal differences. Lex Luthor has a strange affection for Mercy Graves and Tala that humanizes him but still shows what a narcissistic jerk he is.

It's a pleasant contrast to the forced grimdark qualities of some of the more recent live action and animated DC films.
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