05-30-2021, 05:40 AM | #1 |
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Why recycle a script from "Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!"?
In case you aren't aware, "The Weird World of Wyrm" is nearly identical to the Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go! episode "Meet the Wigglenog". It has the same concept, same series of wishes, the same conclusion and pretty much identical dialogue. There is absolutely no doubt that the TMNT episode was based on a modified script of the SRMTHG episode. The writer even worked on both shows, so clearly they just had the script in their possession already.
Now... Why do this? Unlike David Wise who didn't really care and just reused scripts for an easy paycheck, to the point where the script ended up just different enough to pass as a different script entirely and be used more than once for the same show (no joke, the same He-Man episode somehow became three Transformers episodes and two TMNT episodes), I don't think this show in particular tended to do this. Granted, I only know of the SRMTHG connection because it was pointed out to me, so there could indeed be more instances of the show reusing scripts. Seems to me they could have easily just written an original story or adapted an old TMNT story, lifting the script from some other show here seemed weird. Also, SRMTHG is a Disney property, so it might count as copyright infringement towards the Mouse, which is something that rarely pays off if it's noticed. Not that I think Disney actually cares about a show as obscure as SRMTHG, which is probably why they got away with it. |
05-30-2021, 09:52 AM | #2 |
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I think a lot of cartoon writers recycle scripts between different shows more often than people realize, it's just cleverly disguised with some differences (and the different characters between shows), it's not always obvious. If you watch enough cartoons you'll notice similar almost identical story beats between some episodes.
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In this case it's none of those things. TMNT and SRMTHG are not adaptations of the same story. Everything the exact same things happen, so it can't be subconcious. It doesn't even do a good job of disguising it, since it's basically just character names that are different. The only reasonable defense is that the malicious genie might be a somewhat cliché story but that defense would only work for when SRMTHG did the story first, not when TMNT copied it verbatim. Quote:
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Though it's probably worth noting here that the reason he could make so many episodes of the same script is that he carved out certain subplots and wrote new ones. Still, a pretty clear example of recycling.
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Are those chronological? If so, I can't help but laugh that in the very first re-use of that episode they didn't even bother changing the title. Awesome.
Remember when the Chickbusters movie used the ending from Pacific Rim? I nearly had a stroke.
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So for example, while all three Transformers episodes do in fact use the He-Man episode as a basis, they focus on different concepts. So while the first one focuses on the main premise of a computer controlling other machines, the second on how the solution is to shrink down to enter a machine and the third on an siza changing electric creature that can enter computers. Then these two more heavily revised versions ended up in TMNT. Also, here is another comparison video.
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I used to notice similairites between Attack of the 50 Foot Irma (1987 TMNT) and Attack of the 50 Foot Webby (Ducktales). Different writers, but both originally aired in late 1989, something I didn't know back then, and of course I didn't recognize the source material, Attack of the 50 Foot Woman from 1958.
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06-06-2021, 07:55 AM | #9 |
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On a side note, while some plots are recycled through cartoons, it's always interesting to think about how a completely different set of characters can make the plot feel completely different upon watching, the Turtles, autobots, ducks, etc all will react to the same concept differently.
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Yeah you're right, a lot of cartoons have their shrinking episode, their giant episode, their 2 characters switch mind episode, etc
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I'm told some other episodes episodes in season 4 were recycled as well, but my personal attempt to compare the episodes doesn't quite give me the same obvious results.
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12-31-2023, 10:15 PM | #12 |
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Ciro Nieli was the SRMTHG show runner.
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