Jessica Jones tv series - Page 7

*Autbot_Benz* · 02-07-2018, 11:47 PM

ya I have to say Season 2 looks like its gonna be way better than the first season.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-08-2018, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

ya I have to say Season 2 looks like its gonna be way better than the first season.

I remain skeptical. The Defenders trailers looked like the best thing ever.

*plastroncafe* · 02-08-2018, 07:04 AM

I'm with Glen Weldon on this, that trailer hit bad superhero Bingo really early on. I prefer the first one.

*ProphetofGanja* · 02-08-2018, 08:44 AM

This comes out in early March? I'm excited. As long as they stay faaar away from The Hand, I think this will be a good season.

The other Marvel Netflix shows need to really think about what direction they want to go in

*NinjaPug* · 02-08-2018, 09:04 AM

I hope this season has some standalone episodes where she's working random, one-off cases. My problem with some of the Marvel Netflix shows is they stretch a 6 episode story over a 13 episode season that once you hit episode 5 it starts spinning it's wheels until the last episode or two.

*plastroncafe* · 02-08-2018, 09:12 AM

Agreed!
Though I haven't really found that this is the case with the Punisher.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-08-2018, 09:45 AM

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Agreed!
Though I haven't really found that this is the case with the Punisher.

It's almost the opposite problem. If anything, I would have loved to have seen more Punishers wedged within the first 10 minutes of the first episode.

*Cure* · 02-08-2018, 10:03 AM

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It's almost the opposite problem. If anything, I would have loved to have seen more Punishers wedged within the first 10 minutes of the first episode.

Yeah, the first ten minutes is just a montage of him murdering people on his list, right? I agree, then.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-08-2018, 10:22 AM

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It's almost the opposite problem. If anything, I would have loved to have seen more Punishers wedged within the first 10 minutes of the first episode.

Same here.

*plastroncafe* · 02-08-2018, 10:33 AM

Yeah, but I'm not watching The Punisher for bodies hitting the floor. I'm watching it for the nuanced portrayal of post-traumatic stress disorder.

*Autbot_Benz* · 03-08-2018, 01:16 PM

The Second Season isn't getting good reviews. Its being called slow and boring with bad pacing. Reddit has been tearing it apart saying its worse than Iron Fist.

*plastroncafe* · 03-08-2018, 01:18 PM

Bad pacing could be an issue for me, but I'm pretty sure slow and boring won't be. I love me a good character study.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-08-2018, 01:20 PM

I hope that's not code for, "Sorry, folks... she still doesn't really use any of her powers."

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 03-08-2018, 01:32 PM

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Bad pacing could be an issue for me, but I'm pretty sure slow and boring won't be. I love me a good character study.

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The Second Season isn't getting good reviews. Its being called slow and boring with bad pacing. Reddit has been tearing it apart saying its worse than Iron Fist.

All those reviews are critiquing only the first five episodes. At least the ones I've seen.

I'm okay for a slow burn; I'm invested enough in Jessica, Malcolm, and Trish.

*Krutch* · 03-08-2018, 06:32 PM

Only two episodes in but I'm enjoying what I'm seeing.

Speaking of enjoying what I'm seeing...

Sweet baby Jesus is Krysten Ritter ever a stunner. It's all actually a bit distracting from the story

*Andrew NDB* · 03-08-2018, 11:44 PM

I just hate to keep hitting the same mark, but... if "Supergirl" on CW can have the titular character flying around smashing bad guys on a weekly basis, "Jessica Jones" can have Jessica Jones doing the same thing. Once in a while. I'm just saying, once in a while. There's really no excuse, certainly not of a budgetary nature. Jessica has the powers, and this isn't season 1. I get that the show is trying to keep her as a low key thing, but this why the payoff would be far greater when she actually does it.

Punisher and Daredevil and Luke Cage get to embrace their full powers and comic book potential... why doesn't Jessica Jones? What's the problem?

*Krutch* · 03-09-2018, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I just hate to keep hitting the same mark, but... if "Supergirl" on CW can have the titular character flying around smashing bad guys on a weekly basis, "Jessica Jones" can have Jessica Jones doing the same thing. Once in a while. I'm just saying, once in a while. There's really no excuse, certainly not of a budgetary nature. Jessica has the powers, and this isn't season 1. I get that the show is trying to keep her as a low key thing, but this why the payoff would be far greater when she actually does it.

Punisher and Daredevil and Luke Cage get to embrace their full powers and comic book potential... why doesn't Jessica Jones? What's the problem?

Beats me. That being said, I don't ever find myself "missing" her powers or wishing she'd use them more frequently just for the sake of using them. The storytelling is more investigative mystery than vigilante justice ala Daredevil and Luke Cage.

I also think you're allowed to take certain liberties with lesser known characters like Jessica Jones. Like, I have no idea how similar the TV series is to the comics (I imagine not terribly close) but I love the broken, alcoholic Veronica Mars vibe I get from the show. If it were just another superpower showcase show like Flash, Black Lightning, Legends, Arrow, Supergirl, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil... it might lose alot of it's own identity. I think it was a good call throwing in something different to the glutton of superhero shows. All just my opinion of course.

*plastroncafe* · 03-09-2018, 07:55 AM

How many times does Jessica have to tell people she's not a superhero for people to realize that she's not a superhero?

This isn't that kind of show.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-09-2018, 09:49 AM

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How many times does Jessica have to tell people she's not a superhero for people to realize that she's not a superhero?

This isn't that kind of show.

Of course she's not a superhero. She just really doesn't ever want to use her powers/TPTB don't want to show us her ever using her powers. Strangely.

*Krutch* · 03-10-2018, 12:12 AM

Finished season 2.

Quick random spoilery thoughts...

Spoiler:

Overall, really dug it. I liked alot of the challenges and themes present in this season. I was worried after the dip in quality in Marvel's Netflix shows this would be another miss, but thankfully Jones lands another winning season.

I love Kristyn Ritter's take on Jessica Jones. I'm unfamiliar with the comics so I can only take it as what I see on the show, but her tortured soul/always running on survival mode/keeping everyone at a distance is a favorite archtype of mine. Seeing her confront her own demons and asking who she really wants to be was compelling and alot of nuances were given in the performance. Good stuff.

Malcom was awesome. It was great seeing him step up and really take control of his life. I felt a little cheated that Malcom taking a puff of the inhaler and running in fear lead to...absolute nothing but otherwise he was a huge consistant highlight throughout the thirteen episodes. Hope to see him grow as a professional advasary of Jones next season.

Hogart's storyline is great - it's always nice to see how someone high and mighty feels when faced with mortality. For characters as rigid and cold as Hogart is, there was a real nice sense of growth from her this season.

The villain of this season is no Kilgrave, and I think people expecting another clear-cut villain will leave a bit disappointed. Both Jessica and Alisa flip-flop on where they stand with each other which leads to a more internal struggle as opposed to chasing down the big bad. Alisa was a very intriguing villain that could have came off as pretty hammy but the writing and performances keep it grounded.

The main thing I had an issue with this season is without question Trish's storyline. From the get-go, everything seemed very contrived. There's a missing piece somewhere in her story. On paper, yes, I get that she was feeling weak growing up with a superpowered sister and a domineering mother. And I get that last season she was assaulted, learned how to fight - just to get her ass kicked again, so, I kind of understand her desire for superpowers. But her taking that first puff felt so unnecessary and out of nowhere, everything which follows feels kind of unearned.

After the mid-season reveal that the killer is Jessica's mother, the rest of the season felt pretty predictable. Did anyone honestly not see Hogart getting screwed over? Can anyone say they didn't see Trish's master plan was to get the doctor to perform on her?

That being said, I assumed the finale was going to inevitably pit Jessica in a situation where she had to choose between her mother and Trish, leading Jess to kill her mother. Thankfully, they went a more satisfying route which should have strong consequences going into season three.

Season 1 of Jessica Jones remains at the top of the list of Marvel's Netflix series to me, but Season 2 has alot going for it and delivers another satisfying entry. Looking forward to season 3.

02-07-2018, 11:47 PM	#121
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,279	ya I have to say Season 2 looks like its gonna be way better than the first season. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

02-08-2018, 08:44 AM	#124
ProphetofGanja Dub Professor Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dub Side of the Moon Posts: 3,442	This comes out in early March? I'm excited. As long as they stay faaar away from The Hand, I think this will be a good season. The other Marvel Netflix shows need to really think about what direction they want to go in __________________ "We've been frantically trying to reach you, Dude."

03-08-2018, 01:16 PM	#131
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,279	The Second Season isn't getting good reviews. Its being called slow and boring with bad pacing. Reddit has been tearing it apart saying its worse than Iron Fist. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

03-08-2018, 01:20 PM	#133
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,256	I hope that's not code for, "Sorry, folks... she still doesn't really use any of her powers." __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-08-2018, 11:44 PM	#136
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,256	I just hate to keep hitting the same mark, but... if "Supergirl" on CW can have the titular character flying around smashing bad guys on a weekly basis, "Jessica Jones" can have Jessica Jones doing the same thing. Once in a while. I'm just saying, once in a while. There's really no excuse, certainly not of a budgetary nature. Jessica has the powers, and this isn't season 1. I get that the show is trying to keep her as a low key thing, but this why the payoff would be far greater when she actually does it. Punisher and Daredevil and Luke Cage get to embrace their full powers and comic book potential... why doesn't Jessica Jones? What's the problem? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-08-2018, 09:04 AM	#125
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,389	I hope this season has some standalone episodes where she's working random, one-off cases. My problem with some of the Marvel Netflix shows is they stretch a 6 episode story over a 13 episode season that once you hit episode 5 it starts spinning it's wheels until the last episode or two.

03-08-2018, 06:32 PM	#135
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,805	Only two episodes in but I'm enjoying what I'm seeing. Speaking of enjoying what I'm seeing... Sweet baby Jesus is Krysten Ritter ever a stunner. It's all actually a bit distracting from the story

03-10-2018, 12:12 AM	#140
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,805	Finished season 2. Quick random spoilery thoughts... Spoiler: Overall, really dug it. I liked alot of the challenges and themes present in this season. I was worried after the dip in quality in Marvel's Netflix shows this would be another miss, but thankfully Jones lands another winning season. I love Kristyn Ritter's take on Jessica Jones. I'm unfamiliar with the comics so I can only take it as what I see on the show, but her tortured soul/always running on survival mode/keeping everyone at a distance is a favorite archtype of mine. Seeing her confront her own demons and asking who she really wants to be was compelling and alot of nuances were given in the performance. Good stuff. Malcom was awesome. It was great seeing him step up and really take control of his life. I felt a little cheated that Malcom taking a puff of the inhaler and running in fear lead to...absolute nothing but otherwise he was a huge consistant highlight throughout the thirteen episodes. Hope to see him grow as a professional advasary of Jones next season. Hogart's storyline is great - it's always nice to see how someone high and mighty feels when faced with mortality. For characters as rigid and cold as Hogart is, there was a real nice sense of growth from her this season. The villain of this season is no Kilgrave, and I think people expecting another clear-cut villain will leave a bit disappointed. Both Jessica and Alisa flip-flop on where they stand with each other which leads to a more internal struggle as opposed to chasing down the big bad. Alisa was a very intriguing villain that could have came off as pretty hammy but the writing and performances keep it grounded. The main thing I had an issue with this season is without question Trish's storyline. From the get-go, everything seemed very contrived. There's a missing piece somewhere in her story. On paper, yes, I get that she was feeling weak growing up with a superpowered sister and a domineering mother. And I get that last season she was assaulted, learned how to fight - just to get her ass kicked again, so, I kind of understand her desire for superpowers. But her taking that first puff felt so unnecessary and out of nowhere, everything which follows feels kind of unearned. After the mid-season reveal that the killer is Jessica's mother, the rest of the season felt pretty predictable. Did anyone honestly not see Hogart getting screwed over? Can anyone say they didn't see Trish's master plan was to get the doctor to perform on her? That being said, I assumed the finale was going to inevitably pit Jessica in a situation where she had to choose between her mother and Trish, leading Jess to kill her mother. Thankfully, they went a more satisfying route which should have strong consequences going into season three. Season 1 of Jessica Jones remains at the top of the list of Marvel's Netflix series to me, but Season 2 has alot going for it and delivers another satisfying entry. Looking forward to season 3.