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Old 01-14-2021, 09:45 AM   #1
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Playmates Turtles and Villians box sets reissues of the same molds again

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Old 01-14-2021, 10:05 AM   #2
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100 dollar boxes for addicts. This isn't even completist solicitation anymore.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:29 AM   #3
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Why is the villains set more expensive? Shredder is in the wrong set
$15 or $16 a figure is still a good price nonetheless.

I'm waiting for mikey0 to explain me what the oversized roto heads are about, again.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:39 AM   #4
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Why is the villains set more expensive? Shredder is in the wrong set
$15 or $16 a figure is still a good price nonetheless.

I'm waiting for mikey0 to explain me what the oversized roto heads are about, again.
I was honestly surprised to see Baxter Stockman in the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set. The last Baxter reissue came with a trading card and it was sold in the mid 1990s.

Also, the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set will be the first box set to have a Slash with an oversized rotocast head!

Unfortunately, collectors with the retro figures will skip the figures from both sets and wait for the box sets to go up for sale in the aftermarket.

Playmates used less plastic to make the heads of the action figures for the exclusive Retro Rotocast Sewer Lair Box Set and Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set. The oversized heads to the figures weigh less than the hard heads from the very late 80s into the 90s because they were made from a liquid form of plastic that is less expensive to use.

The Krang in the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set will be the first Krang in history to have a squishy head.

I wish Playmates would make a MOTU Origins-type TMNT toyline, but I’m happy to see that Playmates is making boxes with adult collectors in mind. Too bad Playmates cannot fill the boxes with reissues of hard-to-find figures from the original toy line.

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Old 01-14-2021, 10:52 AM   #5
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Once more, with(out) feeling.

It's just sad at this point.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:56 AM   #6
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If there’s one time Playmates know how to do, it’s regurgitate the same formula repeatedly until the money dries up, even the money hasn’t come in the first place
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Old 01-14-2021, 01:24 PM   #7
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Let me get a couple of things straight here...

A) "oversized roto heads" is a selling point?

B) will this version of Raph and Leo be that off colour again?

I might consider getting a villains box purely for the Foot Soldier and accessories.
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Old 01-14-2021, 01:42 PM   #8
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Let me get a couple of things straight here...

A) "oversized roto heads" is a selling point?

B) will this version of Raph and Leo be that off colour again?

I might consider getting a villains box purely for the Foot Soldier and accessories.
A) That is correct. The oversized rotocast heads are what sets apart these box set figures from most of the originals. These are hollow like the fan club form figures from mid 1988.

B) Sadly, this basic Raph and Leo will not be all that different from the Classic Collection Retro set figures, Gamestop exclusive Classic 1988 Action Figure 4 Pack, and SDCC 2020 exclusive. The best basic Raph and Leo reissues were released in the 90s and late 2000s (25th Anniversary Edition).

Getting the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set for the Foot Soldier and accessories is a good idea. Make sure you store those rotocast figures in a cool environment because all six figures are soft heads. You want the plastic to harden and the oversized heads not to shrink.

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Old 01-15-2021, 04:46 AM   #9
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As I mentioned, I'm tempted to get the baddies box if only for the F.S. and accessories.

While I'm at it, could someone (I'm guessing mikey0) explain why they redid Shredder's leg and any other reissue changes?
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Old 01-15-2021, 07:32 AM   #10
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not sure why people continue to give into Playmates pathetic attempt at keeping people satisfied by regurgitating the same stuff every 2 or 3yrs....oh look a new box. If you keep buying it, they'll keep making the same things.....
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Old 01-15-2021, 08:12 AM   #11
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As I mentioned, I'm tempted to get the baddies box if only for the F.S. and accessories.
This might be a dumb question, but are you so sure the Foot does come with accessories? Other figures are shown holding their weapons, the Foot has nothing. It'd be mighty lazy of Playmates to not include anything but I mean, come on. This whole release is lazy.

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not sure why people continue to give into Playmates pathetic attempt at keeping people satisfied by regurgitating the same stuff every 2 or 3yrs....oh look a new box. If you keep buying it, they'll keep making the same things.....
Seriously. They're (official) bootlegs of the originals in a fancy box. There's no upgrade here at all, it's all a step backwards.

Different strokes I guess.
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Old 01-15-2021, 09:27 PM   #12
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not sure why people continue to give into Playmates pathetic attempt at keeping people satisfied by regurgitating the same stuff every 2 or 3yrs....oh look a new box. If you keep buying it, they'll keep making the same things.....
Or maybe, just maybe, it’s not the same people buying them over and over. Look at the secondary market sales on a lot of these releases, they go for 1.5-2x the original sale price. Many, including myself have missed out or passed on previously releases. Then this comes out, in a cool box to boot, and a different set of buyers dive in. That’s where I’m at. I’ve passed on these in the past because it hasn’t been a priority. I’m stoked for these.
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Old 01-15-2021, 11:00 PM   #13
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Nah, it totally is the same people buying them over & over again. I'm in a ton of collectors groups & these guys have brand loyalty like you wouldn't imagine. They sh*t on every iteration of TMNT but 1987, & buy the same toys one after another for decades at a time. Many such cases. Sad!
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Old 01-17-2021, 03:05 PM   #14
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Nah, it totally is the same people buying them over & over again. I'm in a ton of collectors groups & these guys have brand loyalty like you wouldn't imagine. They sh*t on every iteration of TMNT but 1987, & buy the same toys one after another for decades at a time. Many such cases. Sad!
Difference between brand loyalty and addiction buying. I'm sure much much of what you've described is the latter.

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Buying these new sets, as the only Playmates Turtle reissue sets that I’ve ever bought, somehow makes me a shill? You know that no one is forcing you to buy these right? We get it, you don’t like them. Then STFU and don’t buy them, problem solved.
I'm not in for the "shill" debate by any means. But in the spirit of real convo, why don't you seek out nice examples of the original vintage releases? Why would you prefer modern copies?
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Old 01-16-2021, 10:45 AM   #15
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Or maybe, just maybe, it’s not the same people buying them over and over. Look at the secondary market sales on a lot of these releases, they go for 1.5-2x the original sale price. Many, including myself have missed out or passed on previously releases. Then this comes out, in a cool box to boot, and a different set of buyers dive in. That’s where I’m at. I’ve passed on these in the past because it hasn’t been a priority. I’m stoked for these.
I'm with you. Whenever a company put out a new batch/printing of the same product everyone here or among collectors goes crazy saying that the company is greedy for wanting them to buy the same stuff again. But what about people who hasn't bought that product before? what if the new batch/printing is for them and not for the crazy collectors that already got the product before?
Look at books. There are books that get to the 12th printing. Are books company so greedy that they want people to buy the same book 12 times or maybe that company just wants the book to by available to people that missed the previous printing?
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Old 01-16-2021, 12:07 PM   #16
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I wish Playmates would paint the entire plastron. The rim around the plastron looks to be unpainted like on these like the turtles from the SDCC 2020 exclusive and some of the other reissues from this century so far (I.e. - the Family Dollar mini 2-packs). The repros in 2020 were very lackluster compared to the Classic Collection Retro Collection figures from 2013 to 2016. This makes me worried for collectors of the re-releases. What will happen next? Will Playmates leave the entire plastron flesh-toned in 2062 and call that set the Retro Spirit of the TMNT Collection?

I don’t think that will ever happen, but the quality seems to decline from each decade to the next decade. That’s where I was getting at. Frank_one, also, noticed the lack of paint on the plastron in the Walmart Playmates fred wolf Mirage repaints the turtles shredder and splinter thread. I’m not liking where this is headed.

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I'm with you. Whenever a company put out a new batch/printing of the same product everyone here or among collectors goes crazy saying that the company is greedy for wanting them to buy the same stuff again. But what about people who hasn't bought that product before? what if the new batch/printing is for them and not for the crazy collectors that already got the product before?
Look at books. There are books that get to the 12th printing. Are books company so greedy that they want people to buy the same book 12 times or maybe that company just wants the book to by available to people that missed the previous printing?
what stopped you from buying these other the 5 times these have been released?
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Or maybe, just maybe, it’s not the same people buying them over and over. Look at the secondary market sales on a lot of these releases, they go for 1.5-2x the original sale price. Many, including myself have missed out or passed on previously releases. Then this comes out, in a cool box to boot, and a different set of buyers dive in. That’s where I’m at. I’ve passed on these in the past because it hasn’t been a priority. I’m stoked for these.
lmao...or maybe you're just a shill for playmates
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How funny would it be if Krang's head was blown to a size that didn't fit the walker.
Krang’s head may actually be touching the ‘cranium cart’ window this time around. Oh no, it’s Super Krang!

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As I mentioned, I'm tempted to get the baddies box if only for the F.S. and accessories.

While I'm at it, could someone (I'm guessing mikey0) explain why they redid Shredder's leg and any other reissue changes?
Playmates redid both of Shredder’s legs for the Original Comic Book Collection set. It was almost difficult trying to get the original basic Shredder and all Shredder reissues before the Walmart one to stand up straight without falling. So, you do not have to prop this Shredder up against the back of the shelf. There is another theory spreading online about why Playmates re-molded Shredder’s legs for the Walmart Exclusive Original Comic Book Collection set. Pixel Dan believes Playmates may have been trying to mimic the stance that Shredder uses in the Mirage Comics comic book. I agree with Pixel Dan on that point. Playmates killed two birds with one stone.

As for the oversized heads, I imagine the original head molds from the late 80s were starting to show their age. So, Playmates used rotocasting to make the oversized heads because it’s less expensive to do.

Those are the only reissue changes I can think of right now.

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This might be a dumb question, but are you so sure the Foot does come with accessories? Other figures are shown holding their weapons, the Foot has nothing. It'd be mighty lazy of Playmates to not include anything but I mean, come on. This whole release is lazy.
I’m not sure why Playmates used that promotional image of the F.S., but the 2014 Classic Collection Retro Foot Soldier came with accessories. This release will not be too different from the last release. I’m excited to see this hollow headed Foot Soldier myself.

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Old 01-22-2021, 02:47 PM   #20
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I just wish people would stop buying these reissues so Playmates will finally wake up. I've been buying the MOTU Origins figures because not only are they newly articulated but there's lots of new molding too. And the prices on them are great.

If Playmate were doing the same I'd be supporting. But I'm not supporting this.
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