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Old 06-27-2021, 07:59 PM   #561
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I think there are two psychological components at play when we see these hard nosed opinions.

01 - there's a significant comparison bias. News in America is more widespread globally as a "narrative" than much of what goes on in the rest of the world by comparison.

02 - America has always had the "big boy on the block target" on it. Years ago, the global story was that all Americans were cowboys. Then all Americans were fat. Now all Americans are racists.

Granted Marina has some experiential living here, but for God's sake she's a Hollywood liberal, clearly a drama queen - I mean she left the country saying it was full of racists, but then punctuated it with how work for middle aged women is easier to find in Britain. She's jaded. She's not pioneering.

There is also an internal bias whereby we cite racism as some purely "white phenomena", but I got news guys - in my experience there are a lot more POC's carrying on with racism and internal violence than there are white people. And I live here. In the Chicago area.
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Old 06-27-2021, 09:54 PM   #562
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I was reading Jeffery Hunter's Wikipedia today (it was kinda a rabbit hole because of the Google Doodle of the day about Tamio "Tommy" Kono, who like another Trek actor George Takei was interned during WWII, so I was looking for movies that talked about that, and one stared both Hunter and Takei...BUT) and had to chuckle at one line in his personal life section:
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He was a Republican.[28]

The 1st Captain of the freakin' Star Ship Enterprise...
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Old 06-28-2021, 06:42 PM   #563
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someone should tweet that to sirtis. if she really believes this stuff, it'll blow her mind .
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Old 07-01-2021, 05:02 PM   #564
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Old 07-02-2021, 02:19 AM   #565
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Old 07-02-2021, 02:40 AM   #566
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I think DS9 was my least favourite of the shows (referring to all the older stuff) .... wait, was that the point? I dunno I got the impression other people like it.

Actually, on the Subject of Star Trek, well it's fans anyway, I've not seen Cylons on here for a while.

As for Picard's the next season, I hope they stop dragging out or tone down the 'shame' for his character.

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Old 07-02-2021, 08:14 AM   #567
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Actually, on the Subject of Star Trek, well it's fans anyway, I've not seen Cylons on here for a while.
You probably won't. I still hear from him, but without speaking too much for him he's pretty much "retired" from the Drome.
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Old 07-02-2021, 08:41 AM   #568
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You probably won't. I still hear from him, but without speaking too much for him he's pretty much "retired" from the Drome.
Oh that's a shame, seemed a reasonable guy, but people move on. I wish him well.
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Old 07-03-2021, 06:19 PM   #569
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01 - there's a significant comparison bias. News in America is more widespread globally as a "narrative" than much of what goes on in the rest of the world by comparison.
This is true. It dawned on my in 2017 UK general election were we had a hung parliament and the Conservatives had to form a coalition with Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party and the response from most Brits was "who?" News of American politics is so widespread in the UK in comparison to a part of our own country that is right door.

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02 - America has always had the "big boy on the block target" on it. Years ago, the global story was that all Americans were cowboys. Then all Americans were fat. Now all Americans are racists.
There's a difference between cultural stereotypes and pointing out an objective truth that the United States had a big problem with racism.

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There is also an internal bias whereby we cite racism as some purely "white phenomena", but I got news guys - in my experience there are a lot more POC's carrying on with racism and internal violence than there are white people. And I live here. In the Chicago area.
No one denies that non white people can be racist and that's bad but in the western world they are not in a position of power. Anti white racism isn't going to get me harassed or killed by police or make me less likely to get certain jobs.

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I was reading Jeffery Hunter's Wikipedia today (it was kinda a rabbit hole because of the Google Doodle of the day about Tamio "Tommy" Kono, who like another Trek actor George Takei was interned during WWII, so I was looking for movies that talked about that, and one stared both Hunter and Takei...BUT) and had to chuckle at one line in his personal life section:

The 1st Captain of the freakin' Star Ship Enterprise...
The first captain of the freakin' Star Ship Enterprise is Captain Archer.
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No one denies that non white people can be racist and that's bad but in the western world they are not in a position of power. Anti white racism isn't going to get me harassed or killed by police or make me less likely to get certain jobs.
Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice and Barack Obama sort of stand as living proof that the whole "Blacks Have No Power/Can't Achieve Positions Of Power" narrative is 100% bullsh*t.
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Old 07-03-2021, 08:53 PM   #571
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The first captain of the freakin' Star Ship Enterprise is Captain Archer.
He wasn't the captain of the first "Federation starship Enterprise." That was Robert April. But he is only somewhat canon.
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Old 07-03-2021, 11:11 PM   #572
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Anti white racism isn't going to get me harassed or killed by police or make me less likely to get certain jobs.
For now.

Giving the trajectory, it might take just a few years until activists and virtue signaling corporations will start discriminating White people from the jobs and the like.

Look into "Critical Race Theory" and all the madness it entails - right now its already at Nazi level of hatred towards Whites. What will happen few years later? Who knows, but usually nothing good comes out of this.
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Old 07-05-2021, 09:18 AM   #573
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There's a difference between cultural stereotypes and pointing out an objective truth that the United States had a big problem with racism.
Sure, absolutely, but your reply here still doesn't discriminate between the statement that the U.S. has a problem with racism and the statement that "the U.S. is filled with racists" or some other statement about the wider and general population.

That's typically my point, but here on these boards, Facebook or Twitter you get replies that never discriminate between the two. And so it becomes evidence that the people who make statements like that are actually a significant part of the problem.`

The country is not filled with racists. People who conduct themselves on the public forums with those thoughts are just saying words from their own, singular perspective and that right there should indicate the problem. The country is not filled with racists.
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