Anyone not enthused about Dark Leo yet? - Page 4

*Andrew NDB* · 08-26-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazi

To be honest, it's not like mirage had that much blood.

Outright, no, not always. But death was very real and very present... each battle had real consequences.

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And there were zero cursing.

Re-read them. Plenty of "damns" and "hells" and even a spattering of "sh*t" in a few places early on.

TomWaltz · 08-26-2013, 02:45 PM

I'd respond to all this, but don't want Cipher accusing me of overwriting on this thread.

Talk soon!

Tom W.

Tazi · 08-26-2013, 02:55 PM

Well, IDW had "crap", that's about the same level as "damn", or anything censored. (Or I could be wrong, my english is not native, so I can't really feel how much weight those words actually have compared to each other.)

You're right about permanent deaths and consequences in Mirage, I ment the average level of gore and violence, I think last IDW issues are really not that far from mirage.
I think about IDW, it's not just about killing characters or not, but they kinda do a "superhero-comic style" of aproach where villains are recurring, instead of the more consequence-heavy Mirage approach, which had no rogues gallery.

*CyberCubed* · 08-26-2013, 08:24 PM

Well the Mirage Turtles always seemed, "depressed" and their world seem much more real as in they weren't always looking for the next big adventure or supervillain to stop. They just lived their lives like ordinary people until something happened.

IDW TMNT is a lot like the 3 cartoons, (Original, 4kids and Nick), in that it feels like an action superhero-y series where the next big bad is always coming up and the Turtles have to stop them. This of course is fine and I like it here and in the cartoons, but it is a stark contrast to Mirage.

*Cipher* · 08-26-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TomWaltz

I'd respond to all this, but don't want Cipher accusing me of overwriting on this thread.

It's true, though: I only like pictures and I'm impossible to please.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 08-27-2013, 03:09 PM

A thought occured to me- we are only seeing glimpses of the actual city take over, and I wonder if that's not intentional. What if Shredder's plan isn't bainwahing and making Leo his lieutenant at all (despite what he told Karai), but rather the whole 'Dark Leo' fiasco (along with the minor attacks on the other factions Leo is involved in) is something to keep the turtles distracted with trying to get Leo back, that his true conquest of the city goes on all around them unhindered? The street gangs fall under thier control with Hun's coup of the purple Dragons, taking away leadership from Angel. And the Savate are ethier beaten or scared into submission, while deals are cut with the mob. This is all part of Shredder's elborate takeover plan, unbenknowst to even Karai, one which forces the rescued leo and the others to flee the Shredder-controlled new york?

Meh, I'm probably just thinking too much.

*Rooish* · 08-28-2013, 10:38 AM

Guys, what if the mind control didn't work and Leo is just faking it?

*ObiWanFan4life* · 08-28-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooish

Guys, what if the mind control didn't work and Leo is just faking it?

Why would he do that?

Tazi · 08-28-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

Why would he do that?

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*ToTheNines* · 08-28-2013, 07:23 PM

That scene has made me wonder... but #25 kinda rules out him faking it since we get a look inside his head when he has a flashback to his parents when seeing Saki and Kitsune together.

*Rooish* · 08-28-2013, 07:31 PM

He could still have a flashback even if he's faking it. Maybe that was meant to mislead us.

Edit: Oops, unfortunately my idea is probably a fail. I guess "faking it" Leo would not be sending ninjas to kill others.

08-26-2013, 02:55 PM	#63
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	Well, IDW had "crap", that's about the same level as "damn", or anything censored. (Or I could be wrong, my english is not native, so I can't really feel how much weight those words actually have compared to each other.) You're right about permanent deaths and consequences in Mirage, I ment the average level of gore and violence, I think last IDW issues are really not that far from mirage. I think about IDW, it's not just about killing characters or not, but they kinda do a "superhero-comic style" of aproach where villains are recurring, instead of the more consequence-heavy Mirage approach, which had no rogues gallery. __________________

08-27-2013, 03:09 PM	#66
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	A thought occured to me- we are only seeing glimpses of the actual city take over, and I wonder if that's not intentional. What if Shredder's plan isn't bainwahing and making Leo his lieutenant at all (despite what he told Karai), but rather the whole 'Dark Leo' fiasco (along with the minor attacks on the other factions Leo is involved in) is something to keep the turtles distracted with trying to get Leo back, that his true conquest of the city goes on all around them unhindered? The street gangs fall under thier control with Hun's coup of the purple Dragons, taking away leadership from Angel. And the Savate are ethier beaten or scared into submission, while deals are cut with the mob. This is all part of Shredder's elborate takeover plan, unbenknowst to even Karai, one which forces the rescued leo and the others to flee the Shredder-controlled new york? Meh, I'm probably just thinking too much. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

08-28-2013, 10:38 AM	#67
Rooish Devil's Advocate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,121	Guys, what if the mind control didn't work and Leo is just faking it? __________________ Thanks evan2000 for the sig!

08-28-2013, 07:31 PM	#71
Rooish Devil's Advocate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,121	He could still have a flashback even if he's faking it. Maybe that was meant to mislead us. Edit: Oops, unfortunately my idea is probably a fail. I guess "faking it" Leo would not be sending ninjas to kill others. __________________ Thanks evan2000 for the sig! Last edited by Rooish; 08-29-2013 at 12:19 PM.

08-26-2013, 02:45 PM	#62
TomWaltz Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 509	I'd respond to all this, but don't want Cipher accusing me of overwriting on this thread. Talk soon! Tom W.

08-26-2013, 08:24 PM	#64
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	Well the Mirage Turtles always seemed, "depressed" and their world seem much more real as in they weren't always looking for the next big adventure or supervillain to stop. They just lived their lives like ordinary people until something happened. IDW TMNT is a lot like the 3 cartoons, (Original, 4kids and Nick), in that it feels like an action superhero-y series where the next big bad is always coming up and the Turtles have to stop them. This of course is fine and I like it here and in the cartoons, but it is a stark contrast to Mirage.

08-28-2013, 07:23 PM	#70
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	That scene has made me wonder... but #25 kinda rules out him faking it since we get a look inside his head when he has a flashback to his parents when seeing Saki and Kitsune together.