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View Poll Results: Ch'rell or Venus
Ch'rell 12 24.49%
Venus 37 75.51%
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:57 PM   #21
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I'm glad both characters have stopped existing from this world.

But if I choose which is worse...Venus. Pointless and contrived.
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:36 AM   #22
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Ch'rell never really bothered me. He does get points for being menacing and a genuine threat. But I do prefer the Shredder being a human ninja master named Oroku Saki.

Venus: Could have worked if she wasn't a Mary Sue.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:00 PM   #23
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I think Venus was more pointless. Going by what others have said, as to how Ch'Rell was like an amalgamation of Shredder and Krang, that doesn't exactly bother me and going strictly by what I've seen in comics with other characters being "merged" or something similar, I don't find it altogether unacceptable. It didn't *need* to be done, and I wouldn't prefer it as the "main" representation of Shredder in the TMNT mythology, but it was okay. The execution was fine, for what it was.

Venus was both poorly conceived and poorly executed.

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Old 11-11-2013, 11:30 AM   #24
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Ch'rell is more controversial; in the not everyone agrees on whether he was awesome or lame. That Venus sucks, though, is close to a unanimous opinion. (Though not close enough for my tastes.)
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:02 PM   #25
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I figured Ch'rell must have programmed the Shredder suit to use Tengu Shredder's voice.
Of course that begs the question of how Ch'rell knew what Oroku Saki sounded like in the first place.
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ch'rell, venus de milo

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