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Old 03-14-2013, 09:55 AM   #1
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Is that sting ray mutant anywhere in the show?

There is a blue mutant sting ray character that show up in the archie comics of TMNT, he also has an action figure. Has he ever made an appearance in the tv show?

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Old 03-14-2013, 10:28 AM   #2
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Man Ray?

There was a bastardized version of him named "Ray" in Rebel without a Fin, but he was changed to be an almost complete different character.
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:27 AM   #3
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Man Ray?

There was a bastardized version of him named "Ray" in Rebel without a Fin, but he was changed to be an almost complete different character.
I'm not sure
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:18 PM   #4
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He's the only stingray mutant I'm aware of.

He was created for Archie's TMNT comic and called Man Ray.

When Playmates got an action figure out for him, they renamed him Ray Fillet and changed his somber personality to something more deranged.

Season 4's Ray was a genetic splicing of various sea-life and was a weak immitation, supposing he was meant to be a substitute.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:34 PM   #5
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I first about him via a Random House kids book called "A Fishy Adventure" and believed that a TV episode was produced since I also had "Return of the Shredder" and the book "Escape From Dimension X" which both had cartoon episodes, but thought that said episode was either banned or was lost and that I missed it the first time around. Man Ray/Ray Fillet could have appear again in Season 6 or 7 with the underwater Technodrome, but Fred Wolf may have felt that there would be too much confusion between the two. It's also a shame that the primary villain that Rebel Without a Friend was Polidorious and not Man Ray.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:40 PM   #6
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Man Ray was apart of the Mighty Mutanimals along with Mondo Gecko, Wingnut/Screwloose, leather head, Dreadmon, and the Jaguar guy.

This was when the Archie series really started to depart from the OT.
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:34 PM   #7
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According to Ryan Brown over at his blog, Ray from "Rebel Without a Fin" was going to be Man Ray/Ray Filet, but he objected to the use of the character as a villain and had the script changed to make the character a generic.

http://lavignebrownart.blogspot.com/...nimations.html

Go down to the comments, Ryan Brown is the user Cowabunga Dude:

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The episode "Rebel Without A Fin" was originally written to feature Ray Fillet, but when the script came in to the studio Ray was a bad guy and resembled the Man Ray character in appearance only.

I explained the situation to Fred on the phone and he refused to make any changes. Murph and I rejected the script and Fred had the character redesigned so as to not resemble Ray Fillet in any way. To this day neither Murph or myself has seen the episode.
So the whole rumor about Ray being a hasty substitution for Man Ray is true.
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:37 PM   #8
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Why did it bother them so much if Ray Fillet was going to be used as a villain anyway?

Leatherhead was used as a villain in the old toon, and nobody from Mirage complained. It just seems odd for Ryan Brown and Murphy to throw up in arms about this.
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:43 AM   #9
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According to the aforementioned blog Man Ray was created for Steve Murphy and based on him. Link

So they were probably a lot more territorial over the character. It could also be a case of the straw that breaks the camel's back in the case of yet another creation of theirs being completely and needlessly redone.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:38 AM   #10
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I wonder if its conflict like this between Mirage and Fred Wolf that prevented them from using alot of the other Playmates mutants in the show. They wanted to create their own characters.

Mondo Gecko started off as a villain in his debut episode too.
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:38 PM   #11
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As far as I am concerned, Ray Fillet Did show up in the show, it was just a poor adaptation of him. I thought it was the show's version of ray as a kid (despite being a villian) and I still see him as the show's version of the character. (Hey, they made wingnut and screwloose baddies, too!)
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