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Old 05-07-2022, 08:27 AM   #1
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Alright, I've read it. Not much to say really, it's basically just a panel for panel remake of the Purple Dragon brawl from Mirage #1 with the names/weapons of the Turtles' swapped out and the EPF replacing the Purple Dragons. Beyond that, the only bit of new information is the implication that Venus is a puppet of the Rat King. There is a letters style page in which Tom describes the creative process and that he didn't return to the main book because he felt "fans might not want the old guy back" (... though I personally wouldn't mind another change in writers...). Then finally it contains the pages it recreates, not Mirage #1 in it's entirety, just that particular portion. Honestly, it might as well just have been full reprint of Mirage #1, with or without the remake.
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Old 05-07-2022, 08:30 AM   #2
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On one side I wanna be like 'awww dude, spoilers, my shop isn't even open yet!!!'

But on the other side, I DID click on this topic link so that's on me.
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Old 05-07-2022, 11:35 AM   #3
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The letter page section has me thinking that we could be in the endgame now
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Old 05-07-2022, 11:50 AM   #4
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The letter page section has me thinking that we could be in the endgame now
If so, that makes me very sad but IDW brought this on themselves.

Fans (and by that I do mean fans, not Twitter groupies) definitely want the "old guy" back.
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Old 05-07-2022, 12:19 PM   #5
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Fans (and by that I do mean fans, not Twitter groupies) definitely want the "old guy" back.
In a freaking heartbeat, we would take him back.

Even if the Armageddon Game isn’t the official end of the IDW run, it may be the jumping off point for a lot of people who are wanting to see Tom tie up the loose ends
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Old 05-07-2022, 02:45 PM   #6
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On one side I wanna be like 'awww dude, spoilers, my shop isn't even open yet!!!'

But on the other side, I DID click on this topic link so that's on me.
Well, I mean it is pretty much just a recreation of a comic most of us have already read, didn't think there was much to spoil.
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Old 05-07-2022, 03:13 PM   #7
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i bought a alternate cover of idw issue 66 on an online only comic store and i picked the tmnt fcbd issue plus 5 other ones
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Old 05-08-2022, 02:40 AM   #8
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If so, that makes me very sad but IDW brought this on themselves.

Fans (and by that I do mean fans, not Twitter groupies) definitely want the "old guy" back.
"Fans" meaning just the dickheads here, then yes.
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Old 05-08-2022, 05:48 AM   #9
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"Fans" meaning just the dickheads here, then yes.
Well, about any concrete discussion I can find about Sophie's run is largely negative, be it here or elsewhere. So... Yeah, not just here I'm afraid.
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Old 05-08-2022, 07:45 AM   #10
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Well, about any concrete discussion I can find about Sophie's run is largely negative, be it here or elsewhere. So... Yeah, not just here I'm afraid.
Not popular on youtube for sure. I work on a computer so I listen to Youtube during the day. Any positive feedback I have ever seen was over 2 years old, and I really didn't see anything under 2 years. I just did a search for anything on them, and the channel with the largest viewer ship talking about the post-100 was Thinking Critical with 17.8k subs who had a negative opinion of things.
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Old 05-08-2022, 08:47 AM   #11
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I ran late yesterday so by the time I got to my LCS, all the copies of TMNT got taken. I was kind of surprised given that the IDW comics haven't been popular with fans in recent times. But, uh, what's the consensus on this issue then?
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Old 05-08-2022, 08:54 AM   #12
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Well, about any concrete discussion I can find about Sophie's run is largely negative, be it here or elsewhere. So... Yeah, not just here I'm afraid.
Indeed. Anything else is just transparently sycophantic ass-kissing.
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Old 05-08-2022, 10:29 AM   #13
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"Fans" meaning just the dickheads here, then yes.
See, that's part of the problem. Making things **** for 20 or so issues, while at the same time calling people that don't like that **** 'dickheads'.

This is why that crap was allowed to continue for so long.
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Old 05-08-2022, 11:52 AM   #14
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Looks like the series is still popular to me:



https://www.comichron.com/monthlycom...2/2022-03.html

Granted Venus probably gave the issue a boost.

The Annual sold 16,908 and in February #126 sold 17,975 which is a bit down from #124 + #125.

https://www.comichron.com/monthlycom...2/2022-02.html
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Old 05-08-2022, 12:01 PM   #15
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Also for what it's worth Sophie has been confirmed to be staying on as the lead writer post-Armageddon Game.
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Old 05-08-2022, 12:15 PM   #16
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Sigh. Again with the same old song and dance, even though sales numbers have been repeatedly proven to be meaningless, non-indicative of the comic's actual success and largely up to speculation from retailers, which was corroborated by Campbell herself at one point.
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Old 05-08-2022, 01:08 PM   #17
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See, that's part of the problem. Making things **** for 20 or so issues, while at the same time calling people that don't like that **** 'dickheads'.

This is why that crap was allowed to continue for so long.
Think his comment was more directed at the people here who HEAVILY imply that people who DO enjoy this run aren't "real" fans (whatever that entails) rather than the people who simply dislike it and leave it at that. Gatekeeping is never a good look.
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Old 05-08-2022, 01:16 PM   #18
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Gatekeeping is never a good look.
Maybe not, but it's absolutely necessary.
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Think his comment was more directed at the people here who HEAVILY imply that people who DO enjoy this run aren't "real" fans (whatever that entails) rather than the people who simply dislike it and leave it at that. Gatekeeping is never a good look.
There's a very clear distinction between fans, real or otherwise, and people who follow Campbell on social media, many of whom don't care one bit about TMNT and/or this particular comic, yet constantly sing the praises of her run to get on her good side, regardless of the damage it's doing to the comic in the long term.

It's not about gatekeeping, it's about keeping, period. Namely keeping a long-running TMNT comic at a quality everyone can enjoy, instead of catering to a very small niche audience who don't read it and will just move on after they've ruined it for the rest of us.
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Old 05-09-2022, 05:28 AM   #20
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Also for what it's worth Sophie has been confirmed to be staying on as the lead writer post-Armageddon Game.
Stick a fork in this series. Its done as long as Campy is on writing duties.
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