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Old 05-22-2014, 03:39 PM   #81
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But the plastron isn't muscles. It's made out of bone. WHY would it shape into faux muscles?
Because science and he's got to have muscles because he can't be tough withouth muscles...
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Old 05-22-2014, 03:40 PM   #82
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Does the article give any info on the plot or story lines? Origins?
Mostly they talk about the designs for the turtles.
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i dont want to post the article because it cost money to get the magazine and posting the article online would be pirating the magazine so i didn't post it I could but i wont until some one else does.
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Old 05-22-2014, 03:41 PM   #84
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Mostly they talk about the designs for the turtles.
Where did you read that, can you gives a link?
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Old 05-22-2014, 03:49 PM   #85
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I know they're concept art... they still strike me as inconsistent, but i guess they are a bit excused being made probably without the intent of being promotional material.
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Turtle bones aren't human shaped. Why would they elongate and mutate into bones identical to humans? You're trying to rationalize one element of fantasy over another. It makes no sense. Your argument hold no weight in reality when the very concept is mutating turtles that take on human characteristics physically.
So basically, your argument is " it's fantasy, anything flies". Good for you, but that still doesn't hold a whole lot of ground. It's still illogical that the acutes on a turtles plastron would form into the shape of pecks, abs and the whole Shebang like on a human torso. The plastron is still the ribcage covered in scutes.

Ribcage abs.
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Turtle bones aren't human shaped. Why would they elongate and mutate into bones identical to humans? You're trying to rationalize one element of fantasy over another. It makes no sense. Your argument hold no weight in reality when the very concept is mutating turtles that take on human characteristics physically.
Well remind people of that when they argue the Bay designs are more realistic with their protruding lips and nostrils and that mutant turtles would be monstrous looking and that the real TMNT would wear clothes because their individuals and so on and so on...

While that particular art isn't the worst depiction of the Bay designs, after all it has something close to their classic faces I still think Leo and Mike's expression look kinda dopey, like their half asleep despite their "dynamic" poses.

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It isn't a huge deal really. All it basically says is that the classic turtle designs are cheesy and the new ones are badass. It doesn't really offer anything new to the table. I was kind of disappointed after I read it actually.
*sigh I've said this before but trashing previous iterations is not going endear this new version to fans or indeed the casual audience but it seems to be one of the few constants from people involved in this movie.

Even before reading that I thought that looking at the article and the pictures they chose to represent past iterations they chose pretty poor representations for most and the fact that they include generally overlooked things like the Coming Out of Ours Shells Tour and the Next Mutation which are well known for their bad costumes I thought they were trying to subtlety show their designs as better...now it seems there was nothing subtle about it.
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Well remind people of that when they argue the Bay designs are more realistic with their protruding lips and nostrils and that mutant turtles would be monstrous looking and that the real TMNT would wear clothes because their individuals and so on and so on...

While that particular art isn't the worst depiction of the Bay designs, after all it has something close to their classic faces I still think Leo and Mike's expression look kinda dopey, like their half asleep despite their "dynamic" poses.



*sigh I've said this before but trashing previous iterations is not going endear this new version to fans or indeed the casual audience but it seems to be one of the few constants from people involved in this movie.

Even before reading that I thought that looking at the article and the pictures they chose to represent past iterations they chose pretty poor representations for most and the fact that they include generally overlooked things like the Coming Out of Ours Shells Tour and the Next Mutation which are well known for their bad costumes I thought they were trying to subtlety show their designs as better...now it seems there was nothing subtle about it.
Awesome, respect of the source...
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Just like a turtle leg, and arms would end up mutating into this:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images...screatures.jpg

Exact human musculature. But the plastrons being shaped in human musculature after the mutation is what you want to cry foul about? The very concept of turtles mutating into human shaped creatures, being able to speak is absurd.

Do you guys have ANY idea how ridiculous you sound arguing one element of absurd sci-fi being more plausible than another?



It makes total sense for them to have these human musculature traits, but defining the plastron to the mutated human form as well ... accentuating their strength, and superhero type status is just "RIDICULOUS", right?

LMAO
I guess we are the only ones picking and choosing which characteristics are appropriate/ inappropriate for these characters to suit our own arguments lol.
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Does the article give any info on the plot or story lines? Origins?
Unfortunately no.. It just talks about how the old turtles had mouths that didn't articulate well and had huge teeth. " Gone are the cheesy grins " stuff like that. That's what I meant when I said that some might feel a little offended after reading it. They talk about looking at tons of different skin and textures from different reptiles for inspiration, along with a few quotes from a few interviews.
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All it basically says is that the classic turtle designs are cheesy and the new ones are badass
So, vaguely reptillian blue lips hulks are more badass, than lean and fast athletes with Turtle-like faces? What a bulldang.
Besides, it's funny, that they use the same sentiment, that was in use by some of the defenders of this movie. If you do not believe in coincidences, this allows for some interesting conclusions...

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Even before reading that I thought that looking at the article and the pictures they chose to represent past iterations they chose pretty poor representations for most and the fact that they include generally overlooked things like the Coming Out of Ours Shells Tour and the Next Mutation which are well known for their bad costumes I thought they were trying to subtlety show their designs as better...now it seems there was nothing subtle about it.
Than it doubly strange that they omitted 2003 series, even though in this one Turtles are somewhat close to the "Bay-o-freaks". Or maybe they omitted them exactly because they were quite similar to the 2014 designs, but much-much better and more true to the source.

And muscles shaped plastron is ridiculous.
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So, vaguely reptillian blue lips hulks are more badass, than lean and fast athletes with Turtle-like faces? What a bulldang.
Besides, it's funny, that they use the same sentiment, that was in use by some of the defenders of this movie. If you do not believe in coincidences, this allows for some interesting conclusions...


Than it doubly strange that they omitted 2003 series, even though in this one Turtles are somewhat close to the "Bay-o-freaks". Or maybe they omitted them exactly because they were quite similar to the 2014 designs, but much-much better and more true to the source.

And muscles shaped plastron is ridiculous.
While I do agree with some of the stuff you said (poor 2003 series, why are you always forgotten in stuff like this), I don't agree with that the 90's turtles had more "Turtle-like faces", but it's the face designs that most people are used to.
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Trying to think of something positive to add here... at least it counts as publicity, I suppose?
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Trying to think of something positive to add here... at least it counts as publicity, I suppose?

It gave us Gremlin Mike...
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Where did you read that, can you gives a link?
IM the one who got the article I have it on my Wife Ipad lol IM the one who posted the turtle photos lol
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So basically, your argument is " it's fantasy, anything flies". Good for you, but that still doesn't hold a whole lot of ground. It's still illogical that the acutes on a turtles plastron would form into the shape of pecks, abs and the whole Shebang like on a human torso. The plastron is still the ribcage covered in scutes.
I can understand why you don't like the designs, but I don't think you should argue about the realism of the designs. The turtles designs have never been realistic, they are almost always depicted with three fingers and two toes, when in reality turtles have 5 claws on their hands and 4 claws on their feet (the Turtles have never had claws either), and I'm sure you could argue more. The designs of the turtles are always more focused on looking good than actually being realistic. However, many people do no think these turtles look good, so their designers failed on some level.
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I can understand why you don't like the designs, but I don't think you should argue about the realism of the designs. The turtles designs have never been realistic, they are almost always depicted with three fingers and two toes, when in reality turtles have 5 claws on their hands and 4 claws on their feet (the Turtles have never had claws either), and I'm sure you could argue more. The designs of the turtles are always more focused on looking good than actually being realistic. However, many people do no think these turtles look good, so their designers failed on some level.
but its still funny if this was Just a fan project it wouldn't even matter no one would be complaining about these designs at least on on the level we're getting now.
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but its still funny if this was Just a fan project it wouldn't even matter no one would be complaining about these designs at least on on the level we're getting now.
If these were fan designs then there wouldn't be the reality of basically being stuck with them for close to a decade if this turns into a series of movies.
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The promo art for this movie honestly makes the Turtles look worst than they do in-movie (At least in my opinion).
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Yeah, the sea turtle skin look isn't doing the designs any favors, or the hilariously colored lips. Way to make them even more protruding
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Agreed. The CGI turtles actually do come across as better looking, the "art" they are tossing at us is not doing them much favors, unfortunately...
Agreed. But, I mean ... at least we got something. Cool to see the turtles in poses, but wish it would've been the real deal CGI turtles.
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