03-26-2021, 01:34 PM | #81 | |
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But see, that in of itself is part of the problem. The ego's and narcissism of "the offended" informs those very people that they are being personally attacked - as if they are so important to the world that all of these offensive things must be directed at them. Being offended nowadays is more often than not a sign of weaponized reverse-attack from an @$$hole, or a sign of narcissism that an @$$hole thinks they are so important that everything is about them. If you could remove those two paradigms and were left only with valid situations in which normal, well-adjusted people became genuinely offended by something, then you'd only have 2% of the current problem remaining. |
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03-26-2021, 01:57 PM | #82 |
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People just need to stop complicating the whole issue.
If a demographic that is the target of something calls BS on it, then it's BS. The response should be to tweak our understanding of manners and basic respect for other people, not more or less scream 'false flag' and act victimized for being told/asked to stop, which too many seem to do. But yeah, bullying certainly happens across the board. Some have what it takes to strengthen themselves in the face of it, and unfortunately some do not. |
03-26-2021, 03:25 PM | #83 |
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I think the only group that will try to cancel TMNT is PETA.
I remember when people were trying to cancel TMNT back in 1989 because slime was making its mark in the toy industry at a devastating rate. There was a news segment about how concerns are being raised about a boy's fascination with gooey toys that are deemed nasty to parents. In my opinion, if TMNT were going to be cancelled, it would be by the OG collectors and viewers such as myself that has been there from the beginning. I don't have any notions of being offended from what I have been seeing all of these years. The only thing that I hate is how the turtles look now. LMAO!
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03-26-2021, 03:47 PM | #84 |
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I don't recall the issue over the slime, but too funny that it's like 10x as popular with kids today. Though Nick and that old show "You can't do that on Television" is probably way more to blame for it back then than the Turtles. That show invented it as one of Nick's trademark things. Kids now have no idea where that started.
Now I want a TMNT vs PETA short. Not really as foes, but just as the sometimes misguided organization that it is and struggles to accept that no, the TMNT are people capable of making their own decisions and don't want to "return to the wild." |
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That would be hilarious to watch!
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03-26-2021, 04:56 PM | #86 | |
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Like recently, when SJW scum attempted to cancel Speedy Gonzalez again and pretty much all Latino / Mexican told them that they liked the character. |
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03-26-2021, 05:39 PM | #87 |
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Yeah, but that's what I'm talking about.
Same thing with a couple sports team names and logos/mascots over here for example. Some Native people might shrug and not care and so some people, mostly white ones, point and say "Look, they don't care, it's fine!" but they ignore the many Native people who DO care and don't like it because those select people who shrug it off offer confirmation bias, and those who don't like it are denied a voice in the matter because their opinion isn't what other people want to hear. That is what I mean. Basically, white people on both sides of an issue have a bad habit of trying to decide everything... |
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The point is that caricatures are around for a reason and it isn't widely to oppress people. But instead of becoming educated and being able to tell the difference, we just have people running around pointing at anything they can as part of the movement. And that alone, on it's own merits are the actions of the kind of people in society that we shouldn't be listening to in the first place. Quote:
The point isn't who is offended and who says not to be. The point is that live and let live, support what you like and avoid what you don't. You are taking some position that everyone has as a stake in this, but most normal people actually don't - normal people of all races. Most of it is complete nonsense that doesn't yield a stakeholder beyond enjoyment or disregard. This country wasn't built on cancelling and demanding conformity to everyone else's framework, and capitalism grew to accommodate choice by voting with patronage. That's it. Last edited by IMJ; 03-26-2021 at 06:03 PM. |
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03-26-2021, 06:13 PM | #89 |
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The above is very true.
Also I don't see the harm in putting a disclaimer in front of shows, movies or even books we know have problematic elements in them. Disney have been doing that for years. They released their War Propaganda shorts and had introductions by Leonard Maltin talking about the context of which they were made. Likewise I have some collected Floyd Gottfredson Mickey Mouse strips that have essays at the front some of which include an explanations of the same of the stuff that would be seen as racist now and even one of my Carl Barks Uncle Scrooge does the same. Would you rather that or censoring them or even removing them all together? |
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And congrats on having a normalized POV on this that isn't galvanized like Indigo going on about "white people" and other nonsense. And really above all else is that this is why we have a ratings system on things now. To aid in consumer choice. Nothing wrong with continuous improvement on it that might add a note or a rater that annotates some of the older content. But on that note, not a fan of "trigger warnings" at all. Easy explanation - trigger warnings are intended to prime shallower thinkers to "be ready". But those same people have a tendency to have "informed reaction". We all know it. It's like when you tell a child not to do something because it could be bad and their response is to over dramatize that thing instead of simply acting on it. And so, trigger warnings that are so blunt actually invite problems from these stunted people instead of diffuse problems. That's who we are dealing with as a society. The empowered idiot. |
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03-26-2021, 11:08 PM | #91 |
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I guess I should start adding a trigger warning to my posts just for you.
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Because, in most situations like this its basically reduced to white people vs white people on behalf of parties that don't care. It doesn't reduce racism, its just ego pandering. And saying "somebody cares"...its kind of pointless. If they care - they will say so. Assuming something on behalf of others is just stupid. Also, SJWs don't understand context and that people are not parrots and won't instantly imitate something that they've seen on screen or have been told. And even than, normal people tend to overthink stuff and see offensive context where there is none. Like how "Red Skins" logo was offensive? To who? How? Quote:
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Like people growing weed the turtles prolly "borrows" electricity (been watching UK landlords show with horrible tenants , one guy lost 20k £
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shakes head God You want to focus on me so tightly, but all that really means is that my points are more solid, poignant, and crushing you all to hell. HAHAHAHA Jesus. If you said something actually informed, wise or of valid life experienced (that I believed) I'd do with you what I'd do with anyone - respect it and discuss that. But you don't. LOL that's all there is to it. Quote:
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I consider any Latino/a openly using LatinX to describe themselves as ignorant stupid borderline race traitors for going along with what some other race is saying you should call yourself. The hell with that. No. The super ****ing hell with that.
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It is similar to "womXn" crap, which Twitch attempted to use some time to "celebrate women" (or rather men who pretend to be women) sometime ago and caused backlash.
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03-27-2021, 11:43 AM | #100 |
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WomXn? What is that even supposed to mean. Not even pronounceable. Think there are better ways to celebrate people without applying new terms or making up new words for everything.
edit: If it was intended for trans women, "womYn" for the chromosomes would at least have been more clever and able to be pronounced. Though making any such distinctions probably would have backlash any way you do it. But that "discussion" typically comes down to rejecting or clapping for other people's views. It's a pretty empty argument to call something "nonsense," yet offer no counter perspective of your own to support why it is supposedly nonsense. Your perspective... not why you think someone else holds the view you don't like. Not sure you're aware, but you aren't the god of what opinions are "right." And yeahhh...a person who can't look past posts with perspectives they don't agree with and impulsively (and compulsively?) always have to tell someone else that they're "wrong on the internet," isn't exactly acting not triggered. Lets not forget that bit of amusingly inaccurate Most of your posts I ignore. Sorry to say that doesn't mean you are/were right, imo. It means I generally don't care, don't tend to agree and typically ignore you in most cases unless you come at me first. Going back to ignoring you now because continuing this "argument" is stupid. Last edited by IndigoErth; 03-27-2021 at 11:52 AM. |
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