TMNT Urban Legends #25 Preview and Discussion

[AlZarkovski]

First look. MEGA-SPOILER!

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Full revelation of Lady Shredder! I warned!

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[Galactus]

Well...that makes me feel better about the last issue.

[Ninjinister]

Okay, that's less stupid.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Wow. Okay. If that's what we're doing, then all aboard.

[AquaParade]

Looks great. I have to say, I'd welcome this series as an on-going, whereas I am hanging on to the current IDW on-going by a thread.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

Looks great. I have to say, I'd welcome this series as an on-going, whereas I am hanging on to the current IDW on-going by a thread.

I know, right? Same.

[ProphetofGanja]

I have no idea what's going on here

[Zog The Magnificent]

I mean, for those of you who didn't like the armor twist, I don't really see how this makes it less stupid. Revealing that the host body is Karai's daughter doesn't really change the last issue's reveal. It's still the AI. Karai's daughter has no will of her own and is basically dead. Lady Shredder is still ultimately the AI. They just happen to look like Karai's daugher now.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

I mean, for those of you who didn't like the armor twist, I don't really see how this makes it less stupid. Revealing that the host body is Karai's daughter doesn't really change the last issue's reveal. It's still the AI. Karai's daughter has no will of her own and is basically dead. Lady Shredder is still ultimately the AI. They just happen to look like Karai's daugher now.

You're actually right, and it did not change my opinion.

But I'll still take any Image TMNT stories over any IDW TMNT stories, any damn day of the week. Image TMNT is what got me back into TMNT in high school. That $hit is my jam; terrible Pimiko outfit, undesired Image crossovers, and weird AI Lady Shredder ain't gonna change that for me.

[Zog The Magnificent]

Oh, totally. I'm having a wonderful time. Though ultimately, I think the chips are falling in favor of the Modeen conclusion for me.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

Oh, totally. I'm having a wonderful time. Though ultimately, I think the chips are falling in favor of the Modeen conclusion for me.

Me, too. Time will tell.

After all, Andrew didn't include the Warlord Komodo, who I'm delighted to see again.

Two very different stories. Enjoyed one immensely, and enjoying the other one just as much.

[Andrew NDB]

Apparrently I am cleared to say this... but I've been assisting Gary on this the whole time. Given many notes and he's been receptive on pretty much every one the entire time.

This is gonna be pretty cool, folks. And there's even a small injection of what Arseniy and I did into things. In a few ways. And one big way, to come.

[Sumac]

Is that an IDW thing or a continuation of the Image series?

[neatoman]

I just realised that naming Karai's daughter Amai instead of Umai was a mistake.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Apparrently I am cleared to say this... but I've been assisting Gary on this the whole time. Given many notes and he's been receptive on pretty much every one the entire time.

This is gonna be pretty cool, folks. And there's even a small injection of what Arseniy and I did into things. In a few ways. And one big way, to come.

That's awesome!

It is really neat seeing two extremely different takes on how TMNT Volume 3 concludes. I'm enjoying this a lot, and hope it bodes well for future mature TMNT projects.

Originally Posted by neatoman

I just realised that naming Karai's daughter Amai instead of Umai was a mistake.

Explain it to the rest of us...?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Explain it to the rest of us...?

Karai means spicy, Umai means tasty. Amai is very close but not quite right.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Is that an IDW thing or a continuation of the Image series?

Oh, I just mean the remaining 2 issues.

Originally Posted by neatoman

I just realised that naming Karai's daughter Amai instead of Umai was a mistake.

Well.. even "Saki" isn't a "correct" Japanese name. And we've been living with that for 40 years almost.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well.. even "Saki" isn't a "correct" Japanese name. And we've been living with that for 40 years almost.

Umai wouldn't be a real name either, it would just be funny.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

I mean, for those of you who didn't like the armor twist, I don't really see how this makes it less stupid. Revealing that the host body is Karai's daughter doesn't really change the last issue's reveal. It's still the AI. Karai's daughter has no will of her own and is basically dead. Lady Shredder is still ultimately the AI. They just happen to look like Karai's daugher now.

You don't think that "armor doing the thing the armor has been doing since the beginning" is less stupid than "armor suddenly is its own entity now"?

Originally Posted by neatoman

Karai means spicy, Umai means tasty. Amai is very close but not quite right.

Amai means sweet, so it still tracks. But I'm still not even convinced the "spicy" Karai would be the legitimate origin of her name in-universe, or even out, unless P&L have said something.

Like almost all Japanese, Karai can be read or meant in different ways.

辛い - harsh temperment
鹹い - spicy
渦雷: Tropical cyclone
花蕾: Flower bud (you know, like blossoming)

[Zog The Magnificent]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

You don't think that "armor doing the thing the armor has been doing since the beginning" is less stupid than "armor suddenly is its own entity now"?

No, not really. It's not really all that sudden. The armor has been it's own entity since issue 12 or 13, and even before that they were building up that it could become it's own thing. Besides, all the other people it was joined with were still there. Karai's daughter is a non-character, and her being here has no impact on anything in the story. If you swapped her out for anyone else nothing would change. If the AI hadn't been involved, the only real options for a reveal would be Karai or Tang Amaya, who kind of doesn't exist to begin with. Anyone else would have to have come out of nowhere and thus wouldn't serve the purpose of a dramatic reveal.