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Old 06-05-2016, 03:06 PM   #21
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No joke -- the OT Turtles would win in a fight amongst multiple incarnations.

Notice the manner in which they fight. They're clearly very skilled at ninjitsu (see Season 1), but when a situation comes up in which the fighting style may not cut it, they get creative with their fighting. Oftentimes using their environment to their advantage in such unique ways so their enemies would have a hard time anticipating their attacks (smashing the ice in an ice rink, using raw bubblegum in a bubblegum factory, etc).

It would take an enemy that's a ninja and is so incredibly ridiculous as to anticipate their strange fighting style almost instantly to beat them. And any other incarnation of the TMNT doesn't have both those qualities.

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Old 06-05-2016, 03:11 PM   #22
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The 2k3 Turtles are probably the best fighters, they do crazy things the Mirage Turtles could never do. They literally jump off walls and do inhuman backflips and kick while hovering 10 feet in the air.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:04 PM   #23
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No joke -- the OT Turtles would win in a fight amongst multiple incarnations.

Notice the manner in which they fight. They're clearly very skilled at ninjitsu (see Season 1), but when a situation comes up in which the fighting style may not cut it, they get creative with their fighting. Oftentimes using their environment to their advantage in such unique ways so their enemies would have a hard time anticipating their attacks (smashing the ice in an ice rink, using raw bubblegum in a bubblegum factory, etc).

It would take an enemy that's a ninja and is so incredibly ridiculous as to anticipate their strange fighting style almost instantly to beat them. And any other incarnation of the TMNT doesn't have both those qualities.
Plus toon physics, and they could find a way around Mirage brutality, 2k3 discipline and supernatural powers, Image body modifications, etc.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:07 PM   #24
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Plus toon physics, and they could find a way around Mirage brutality, 2k3 discipline and supernatural powers, Image body modifications, etc.
OT raphael can summon a pizza at will in the crossover episode, hence they could summon all kinds of other weapons and turn out on top in a fight.
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Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:28 PM   #25
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Mirage! They would hand a katana to every incarnation of turtles and tell them to commit seppuku.
couldn't have said it better myself!
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Old 06-06-2016, 10:17 AM   #26
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I'm not sure I'd argue "killing one's opponent" makes you a better fighter.
But not doing so probably makes you less of a ninja and more of a "half measure."

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Mirage! They would hand a katana to every incarnation of turtles and tell them to commit seppuku.
The other versions wouldn't have the balls to do it. But they should.
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Old 06-06-2016, 10:33 AM   #27
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OT raphael can summon a pizza at will in the crossover episode, hence they could summon all kinds of other weapons and turn out on top in a fight.
Like ray guns that miss their target and blow up something directly behind them, or guns that shoot boxing gloves, or anvils....
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Old 06-06-2016, 11:41 AM   #28
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So, even though they are NORMAL ninja turtles, even being the most skilled at ninjitsu, they are going to beat powered up DBZ-esque turtles who can create energy blasts, energy shields that can easily block normal blows, and destroy things with destruction waves?

*sigh* This isn't a serious comparison of abilities, this is a popularity contest.
Those powers mean nothing if they get snuck up on. Which proper ninjas could and would do.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:01 PM   #29
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The OT turtles from Turtles Forever are clearly the best fighters, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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The OT turtles from Turtles Forever are clearly the best fighters, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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The Mirage turtles aren't proper ninjas, they are Hollywood martial arts stereotypes with the name 'ninja' slapped on them because it sounds 'kewel'. But whatever, Mirage wins because everyone says so.
Yes, but not quite.
It wasn't Hollywood making those movies that Eastman and Laird were inspired by, it was China.
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The Mirage turtles aren't proper ninjas, they are Hollywood martial arts stereotypes with the name 'ninja' slapped on them because it sounds 'kewel'. But whatever, Mirage wins because everyone says so.
Mirage turtles didn't always go in silent and stealthy but they definitely did more than once. They are plenty capable of doing so. Even the FW turtles could do it when they had to. Point is if we're talking straight up one set wants to kill another, element of surprise is probably a major deciding factor.

I suppose on a resources level any one team of TMNT are pretty powerful, but I wonder about the moral and ethical decision making processes each would make. Mirage might be the only ones with the resolve to actually kill themselves, as it were, particularly via using a surprise attack. 2k3 turtles could probably defend themselves in a fair fight but I don't know that they would put the others down.

Alternatively, you could argue the Mirage turtles are in fact the weakest, as outside of what, one injury in 2k3?, they are the only ones to ever actually be shown to be able to even take damage to begin with!
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:16 PM   #33
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The Mirage turtles aren't proper ninjas, they are Hollywood martial arts stereotypes with the name 'ninja' slapped on them because it sounds 'kewel'. But whatever, Mirage wins because everyone says so.
Stop it with the sour grapes towards Mirage. For God's sake. We know you like the kid versions best but it doesn't mean you have to act like one.
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Old 06-06-2016, 05:19 PM   #34
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Yes I would have to agree that the Mirage Turtles are the best fighters.

They certainly trained the most before showing themselves to the world. They had been training for over a decade. Others have followed that template, but I don't think we've ever seen the Turtles in any other medium or adaption take out the shear number of Foot Soldiers and enemies as the Mirage Turtles in the premiere issue.

Can anyone think of or point to a single comic issue, episode, etc from another iteration of the Turtles where they take out a similar (or more) number of foot soliders?
Well the 4Kids and IDW Turtles have certainly taken out large groups of Foot.
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