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Old 09-09-2021, 11:24 AM   #1
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End of Mirage Group

Don't know if this has been posted or not, but it's a downer for me. An end of an era.
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Mirage Studios sold the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles intellectual property to Viacom/Nickelodeon in October 2009 and, after winding down business affairs over the last dozen years, the four Mirage corporations (Mirage Studios, Inc., Mirage Licensing, Inc., Mirage Publishing, Inc., Mirage Management, Inc.) were dissolved in 2021. Mirage is no longer conducting any merchandise sales, either directly through this site or via eBay as of September 19th, 2021.
This site will no longer be updated and is being maintained primarily as an archival resource related to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comics published by Mirage between the years 1984 and 2010.
While Mirage has gone out of existence, but thanks to you, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turltes will live on forever. Thank you all for your years of support. It has been a pleasure sharing the Turtles’ story and universe with you.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:36 AM   #2
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:37 AM   #3
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Well that's a scrotum kick I wasn't expecting. Also, not very comforting as to the chances of Vol. 4 being continued anytime in the foreseeable future.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:43 AM   #4
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Well that's a scrotum kick I wasn't expecting. Also, not very comforting as to the chances of Vol. 4 being continued anytime in the foreseeable future.
I've lost all hope for a conclusion to vol 4.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:45 AM   #5
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I've lost all hope for a conclusion to vol 4.
Probably reasonable to do at this point. Or even for a "fan" one. Maybe in a few years Lawson might change his tune but any sort of conclusion without him (he won't be involved without Peter) wouldn't be worth doing, frankly.
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Old 09-09-2021, 12:02 PM   #6
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Indeed a stark moment. But all good things ...
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:38 AM   #7
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Largely irrelevant question at this point, but did the 2009 franchise sale to Nickelodeon grant the "can publish 18 comics a year" provision to Peter Laird himself or to "Mirage Group," and how does the dissolution of said company affect the agreement, if at all?
https://www.mtv.com/news/2595341/doe...end-of-mirage/
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:42 AM   #8
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Largely irrelevant question at this point, but did the 2009 franchise sale to Nickelodeon grant the "can publish 18 comics a year" provision to Peter Laird himself or to "Mirage Group,"
Strictly Peter himself and strictly in terms of projects he himself would have a heavy hand in. Untransferable to anyone, even family members and is void when he dies.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:39 AM   #9
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Damn. I'll always remember them fondly as the creator of the teenage mutant ninja turltes.
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:00 PM   #10
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How come those four Mirage corporations were still alive after more than 10 years?
Irrelevant news, we all know Mirage died in 2009. This isn't in any way related to the possibility of new Volume 4 issues coming.
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:02 PM   #11
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This isn't in any way related to the possibility of new Volume 4 issues coming.
It is a little bit. If Peter intended to "publish" Vol. 4 #33 it'd reason to think he'd at least bother to protect the "Publishing" part from lapsing.
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Old 09-09-2021, 05:13 PM   #12
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bit of a bummer but honestly they were just a shadow the last 12 years anyway.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:29 PM   #13
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Saw it just now over on Facebook and came here right away.
My only question is, as a few have expressed, if this means that Peter Laird is definitely not finishing vol 4.
It was a long shot for sure, but this would be a 100% "NO" and that's a big downer really.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:35 PM   #14
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Saw it just now over on Facebook and came here right away.
My only question is, as a few have expressed, if this means that Peter Laird is definitely not finishing vol 4.
It was a long shot for sure, but this would be a 100% "NO" and that's a big downer really.
It's not so much a for sure "no," it's just not a good sign at all. Like, it wouldn't have cost much of anything to keep the light on in the "Publishing" side just in case. Which isn't to say he NEEDS the light on with Publishing to do more Vol. 4. Again, it's just not a good sign.
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Old 09-09-2021, 09:28 PM   #15
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they were just a shadow
Or... just a mirage.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:51 PM   #16
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Sad. Granted, I had assumed it pretty much already had, for all intents and purposes, but still sad to see it made official. I suppose the stock of stuff they wanted to sell off on eBay has reached its end and that'll be that.
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Old 09-09-2021, 04:23 PM   #17
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I only go to Miragelicensing every six weeks or so since it's just random retro figures sold on Ebay. That being said I have yet to see the message. It's sad. It's ninjaturtles.com. I remember discovering it in July 1998 on one of my earliest explorations of the internet. It was a Friday ritual for over a decade in the closing of my formative years. Like Winters despite it already being a dead studio I feel a gut punch and sadness about this.
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Old 09-09-2021, 04:45 PM   #18
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Well... Considering something I wrote this or last week, it kind of feels like nothing. Like sure, this is the official end but in any practical sense the company has been dead for a decade, it essentially didn't exist long before this news. The last time they published something new was in 2014 and that just a 30 page comic that was literally given away for free. And I literally haven't ever benefited from their direct existance ever as all my copies of Mirage Studios comics are IDW reprints, nearly all comics they could reprint legally have been reprinted by IDW anyway, I could not buy directly from them anyway because I don't live in the US, there is no secondary source to buy their publications from and the only Mirage TMNT comic I have that isn't an IDW-reprint and IDW haven't printed is one I came across used by luck. In a symbolic sense I guess it's sad but I'm not going to act like this is something to care about in any meaningful way.

The only actual meaningful question is, does Peter Laird lose the rights to finish the comic nobody here thinks he even cares to finish?
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Old 09-09-2021, 09:23 PM   #19
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I was pretty taken aback when I read the news on Facebook during my break at work earlier. I even tried to contact Dan Berger about this on Facebook, though it looks as if he may have left that site, so I'm writing him an e-mail. To be completely honest, I'm more upset over the idea that Dan isn't going to bother posting the Archie comics stuff on the Mirage Group website than Volume 4 possibly never being concluded.
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I'm more upset over the idea that Dan isn't going to bother posting the Archie comics stuff on the Mirage Group website.
Not sure I follow what you mean.

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Within the next 15-20 years, as morbid as it sounds, most of them will be dying off.
There's no guarantee any of us will make it that long either, bud.
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