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Old 06-30-2010, 12:15 AM   #421
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Ok, you have a banner of the TMNT07 CGI turtles in your sig... but I'll move on...

It's your opinion that they didn't look good for the 2007 movie, but you can't just say the entire medium of CGI doesn't work for Ninja Turtles.
I like the movie, I do! I'm just trying to explain with 2d Vs. computer animated. I had a feeling I didnt explain it right. Sorry. I'm gonna give up on that part.
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Old 06-30-2010, 01:52 AM   #422
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D9 got freebies from Peter Jackson's production company. That's the only reason it looks that good for so cheap.
Oh sure and this Turtle movie has Michael Bay's production company. Comparable I would say.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:16 AM   #423
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Maybe but the filmmaker was a friend of Jackson and Jackson helped get the movie bankrolled because he had a lot of faith in the screenplay. I think that's a different relationship then Bay being attached to a company. Bay to my knowledge doesn't have his own Lucas Arts style company he can get free special effects labor out of if he wants to. Maybe he does but to my knowledge D9 was a very rare case.
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Old 06-30-2010, 06:57 AM   #424
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That's so they don't have to worry about the uncanny valley (which is actually something studios care about.)
Not really, some animators are just dead set against realistic looking human characters, believing there must always be some caricature in animated characters.
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:32 PM   #425
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Maybe but the filmmaker was a friend of Jackson and Jackson helped get the movie bankrolled because he had a lot of faith in the screenplay. I think that's a different relationship then Bay being attached to a company. Bay to my knowledge doesn't have his own Lucas Arts style company he can get free special effects labor out of if he wants to. Maybe he does but to my knowledge D9 was a very rare case.
That's actually really close. Blomkamp is a friend of Jackson's and was Jackson's pick to be the director for Halo while he was attached to it. As far as Peter Jackson's company goes - The hardware they used in the movie The Frighteners was the platform hardware they used when they started making Lord of the Rings. It's been pretty much bought and paid for with that wonderful Billion + the series made in theaters.

With District 9 - The movie was made for a modest $30 Million, but it was also actually shot in South Africa, which made production really cheap to begin with. Aside from the interior of the spaceship, etc - the majority of those sets were actual buildings and not a CG backdrop. Wonderfully - It was also done with the aid of Jackson, so Blomkamp had no complaints about his input.

Basically - The whole entire reason D9 was even made was because Jackson was trying to sell Blomkamp as a great director to the studios so he could land the Halo series. Had the movie not have forever been in production hell, then yeah - It would have worked. The movie was Number 1 at the box office and an Academy Award Nominee for Best Picture. I'm sure we'll see more awesome from those two in the future (D9 2... PLEASE!!!)

The big thing that's different about Platinum Dunes and Michael Bay compared to Jackson's company is that PD doesn't have the wonderful tech that Jackson has. Truth be told, they - like many others, still lease out hardware for CG effects with the biggest winner being ILM. The only reason PD is huge is because of their string of hit remakes.

And once again - It's Andrew Form and Brad Fuller that are the head producers for Platinum Dunes... Not Michael Bay.
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:18 PM   #426
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And once again - It's Andrew Form and Brad Fuller that are the head producers for Platinum Dunes... Not Michael Bay.
Again, in case people missed it that time.
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:52 PM   #428
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Huh, so judging from the OP post date, the decision to go with Bay as the producer happened less than nine months after the buyout and it took them four years to make the damn movie...

I know the plan was for the movie to hit 2012 rather than 2014 but still, memories get fuzzier over time and you forget how quickly they chose producer and how long it took for the movie to come out.
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:57 PM   #429
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Huh, so judging from the OP post date, the decision to go with Bay as the producer happened less than nine months after the buyout and it took them four years to make the damn movie...
Crazy, when you think that even after those 4 years, they didn't know what kind of movie they wanted and shot 3 different movies from it.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:31 PM   #430
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If it's like Out of the Shadows, I'll enjoy it.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:56 PM   #431
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Look at this Andrew post on the third page, everything he said here was the exact opposite of what happened, it's like his worst fears come true:

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1. People whining about Bay inserting explosions and nonsense are just knee-jerking, and otherwise aren't really well versed in the politics or track record of Platinum Dunes.

2. There's nothing stopping anybody from including any characters from the OS cartoon in the movies and there never has been -- except Kevin and Peter, and thank god for them doing so (in fairness though, it's not like their exclusion helped the last few movies suck any less than they did, though).

3. A studio like Platinum Dunes -- having put out the very grown-up films they have and quite successfully -- is nothing but a huge, huge boon for this reboot movie. For the first time we may be looking at a situation where the people heading up the movie can look TPTB (Paramount/Viacom/Nick) in the eye and tell them, "We want to make this movie our way" (be it -- gasp -- PG-13) and they might not get a great deal of argument back.

4. Sorry, Krang in a new TMNT movie reboot would be b*******. No offense, Krang.
This is from 2010. So Andrew was uh...29 when he made this post? Look at how hopeful he was in his 20's compared to now.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:56 PM   #432
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If it's like Out of the Shadows, I'll enjoy it.
Dude, this thread was created 7 years ago for the original movie, it's not a OOTS sequel...
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Old 08-10-2017, 04:05 PM   #433
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Look at this Andrew post on the third page, everything he said here was the exact opposite of what happened, it's like his worst fears come true:



This is from 2010. So Andrew was uh...29 when he made this post? Look at how hopeful he was in his 20's compared to now.
At that time I was on the phone with Kevin Eastman quite a bit, and what he was telling me as it was happening WAS pretty hopeful. He was hopeful, it was contagious. "Fights like The Raid! Action like District 13!" blah blah.

And at that point PD hadn't really done anything yet I didn't like.
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Crazy, when you think that even after those 4 years, they didn't know what kind of movie they wanted and shot 3 different movies from it.
Well, there was that whole "alien" controversy that might have contributed to the delay but I still find the idea that writing a new script would delay it for as long as it was.
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Going off the fact that they filmed "three very different versions", I'd be super curious to see a different cut of the first Platinum Dunes TMNT.

I think it could potentially be a salvagable film by adding/deleting a few things:

1. Finish the cg for the fight scene that was cut for budgetary reasons - all the actors were gushing about it. Potentially what inspired Kevin's "raid" comments. Some of the fight choreography was pretty good in this film. More would help.

2. Cut out things like the turtles absorbing bullets, fart jokes, etc. Lot's of easy nip/tucks. Maybe cut out some excess Megan Fox scenes.

Honestly, as much as I dislike the film, I could actually enjoy it if they added/deleted some of these bits. It's not very likely they'd ever do this, but it's fun to dream of potentially possible things.
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LOL, at the time this thread was made I was only 24. Goddamn, where does the time go? We're all a lot more hopeful and bright-eyed in our early 20's then as cynical adults.
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LOL, at the time this thread was made I was only 24. Goddamn, where does the time go? We're all a lot more hopeful and bright-eyed in our early 20's then as cynical adults.
What exactly has Nickelodeon given us to be hopeful about, with TMNT? To look forward to? At every turn it's just varying balances of exactly the same pasteurized Fred Wolf rubbish.
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the same pasteurized Fred Wolf rubbish.
That cuts pretty deep.
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4. Sorry, Krang in a new TMNT movie reboot would be b*******. No offense, Krang.
Well, you were right about that at least...
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That cuts pretty deep.
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