TMNT Adventures (Archie) Omnibus from IDW

[CyberCubed]

I mean it's only the first 17ish issues and some specials so far. So everything up to that point is there. Here is the amazon info

Volume 1 collects the original three-issue miniseries, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures issues #1–17, plus the short stories “Zen Million Year to Birth,” “The Night of Monsterex,” “Metamorphosis,” “A Forgotten TMNT Adventure,” “Origin of the Species,” “Yo-Ho-Ho! And a Bottle of Mutagen!,” “Doomsday Hassle in Banshee Castle,” and “Red Sails in the Sunset.”

It'll take them awhile to get through the whole series, assuming it sells well enough to continue. Hopefully they don't skip anything this time around.

[IMJ]

Oddly enough InStockTrades doesn't have this priced at their listing. Just says "coming soon".

[Chaotix12345]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Oddly enough InStockTrades doesn't have this priced at their listing. Just says "coming soon".

That's normal for them. Items are only priced when they get them in stock.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Chaotix12345

That's normal for them. Items are only priced when they get them in stock.

Ahh okay. That kind of sucks because I want to order this book but through whoever has the biggest discount - so now I can't pre-order it through that other website until I see IST's price....

[biganimefan]

Until I see that the missed main issues are included in volume 2 or 3 I'll pass on this. Wouldn't mind the short stories, but nearly $100 is too much for that if they're more focused on "not offending anyone" and not bringing us a complete collection. And if the main problem is just a page like I've heard, I'm fine with an edit or removal.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by biganimefan

Until I see that the missed main issues are included in volume 2 or 3 I'll pass on this. Wouldn't mind the short stories, but nearly $100 is too much for that if they're more focused on "not offending anyone" and not bringing us a complete collection. And if the main problem is just a page like I've heard, I'm fine with an edit or removal.

What you've said here was basically my point on the previous pages until someone pointed out that this book doesn't encapsulate those comics.

It is completely irrational to censor old writings in any way over modern sensibility. All that actually does somewhere down the road is provide evidence of current trends where egos and heads deeply up their own fake-puritan asses. And that even more than any content they pretend to be "offended" at from a 30-year old Ninja Turtles comic.

Actually now that you mention this, f it. I'm not ordering the Omnibus until we know what's in the future releases as well. And if by that time the 1st one is OOP and unavailable, then I'm out completely. Serves IDW right for even putting this kind of discussion on our radar at all.

[TurtleGurkle]

IST has this for $64.99 or $62.99 with the recent customer discount.

[darthsmozers]

Now that it’s been released and the price has come down a bit, has anyone picked this up and can offer a review for us?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by darthsmozers

Now that it’s been released and the price has come down a bit, has anyone picked this up and can offer a review for us?

I've seen some solid enough reviews that cover most of it. It seems that the following points are the bulk of the discussion:

-most of the convo is about the cover art, whether you like it or not
-the book's construction is well enough done so as to avoid gutter loss
-the downside is that the pages are scanned reproductions as opposed to going back to the original art and digitally coloring it. This is the method of absolute minimal-effort for a trade
-many of the scans have bleed through or page wrinkles on the scans themselves, so the artifacts you'll see on the page are from that process. For example, if you see a page wrinkle, or a compression on the paper it's most likely not on the manufactured book but rather in the scans themselves (which sucks).

I'd say that's all relevant conversation, but as to how any of that actually translates into your enjoyment of reading the older stories - I couldn't say. I'm more concerned with IDW's history of omissions by censorship and the sensibility that indicates for this and future Collections. Basically this release strikes me as a 'just get it done and out there' release. Which sometimes is actually fine, but the ongoing censorship issue is a longer term decision.

Of course the liberal clowns at IDW will disregard this when making their evaluation as to whether or not this trade sold well enough for future trades to come out. They'll just go by the "fans didn't support it" when in fact fans would have had they not been in limbo over censorship for the rest of the collection. I honestly think someone should just ask them about it directly. Like an editor too - not some customer service person.

[darthsmozers]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I've seen some solid enough reviews that cover most of it. It seems that the following points are the bulk of the discussion:

-most of the convo is about the cover art, whether you like it or not
-the book's construction is well enough done so as to avoid gutter loss
-the downside is that the pages are scanned reproductions as opposed to going back to the original art and digitally coloring it. This is the method of absolute minimal-effort for a trade
-many of the scans have bleed through or page wrinkles on the scans themselves, so the artifacts you'll see on the page are from that process. For example, if you see a page wrinkle, or a compression on the paper it's most likely not on the manufactured book but rather in the scans themselves (which sucks).

I'd say that's all relevant conversation, but as to how any of that actually translates into your enjoyment of reading the older stories - I couldn't say. I'm more concerned with IDW's history of omissions by censorship and the sensibility that indicates for this and future Collections. Basically this release strikes me as a 'just get it done and out there' release. Which sometimes is actually fine, but the ongoing censorship issue is a longer term decision.

Of course the liberal clowns at IDW will disregard this when making their evaluation as to whether or not this trade sold well enough for future trades to come out. They'll just go by the "fans didn't support it" when in fact fans would have had they not been in limbo over censorship for the rest of the collection. I honestly think someone should just ask them about it directly. Like an editor too - not some customer service person.

Are they just the same scans as the individual trades from some years back?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by darthsmozers

Are they just the same scans as the individual trades from some years back?

I don't know! But whether they are or aren't doesn't really do anything to impact the valid criticism that there are page artifacts in the Omnibus from scanwork.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by darthsmozers

Now that it’s been released and the price has come down a bit, has anyone picked this up and can offer a review for us?

I just flipped through it and it’s very nice. Pages looked good enough for me.

My two complaints is it seemed like a couple of stories were missing their cover art. I’ll have to double check that though.

[TurtleGurkle]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I just flipped through it and it’s very nice. Pages looked good enough for me.

My two complaints is it seemed like a couple of stories were missing their cover art. I’ll have to double check that though.

I don’t have my copy yet, but I assume they didn’t include covers for the short stories from the Specials?

[IMJ]

I noticed something in a review video about the Compendium and it didn't look right. So I went to the original comics and made this graphic to point it out:



For some reason the pages in the compendium aren't layed out as the appropriate right-sided or left-sided pages. Might not be a big deal, but it DOES mean that something was omitted - maybe a cover image? Also, if the layout was screwed up by IDW in any way it could impact any splash pages and so on.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I noticed something in a review video about the Compendium and it didn't look right. So I went to the original comics and made this graphic to point it out:

https://i.imgur.com/7O47WNdl.jpg

For some reason the pages in the compendium aren't layed out as the appropriate right-sided or left-sided pages. Might not be a big deal, but it DOES mean that something was omitted - maybe a cover image? Also, if the layout was screwed up by IDW in any way it could impact any splash pages and so on.

Unfortunate decision by IDW.

[CyberCubed]

Does anyone know if anything was cut? I don't mind if they cut the 1-page showing Muhammed or whatever, better than cutting an entire 20+ page comic or an entire 5 issue arc.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't mind if they cut the 1-page showing Muhammed or whatever, better than cutting an entire 20+ page comic or an entire 5 issue arc.

They shouldn't cut anything. No caveat.

[darthsmozers]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Does anyone know if anything was cut? I don't mind if they cut the 1-page showing Muhammed or whatever, better than cutting an entire 20+ page comic or an entire 5 issue arc.

That would be in the next volume I guess.
I haven’t pulled the trigger on this one yet so I can’t speak to anything cut.

[TurtleGurkle]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I noticed something in a review video about the Compendium and it didn't look right. So I went to the original comics and made this graphic to point it out:

https://i.imgur.com/7O47WNdl.jpg

For some reason the pages in the compendium aren't layed out as the appropriate right-sided or left-sided pages. Might not be a big deal, but it DOES mean that something was omitted - maybe a cover image? Also, if the layout was screwed up by IDW in any way it could impact any splash pages and so on.

It's just ads they cut out. No pages are missing, they are all numbered if you want to check.

[Demon-Alukard]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I noticed something in a review video about the Compendium and it didn't look right. So I went to the original comics and made this graphic to point it out:

https://i.imgur.com/7O47WNdl.jpg

For some reason the pages in the compendium aren't layed out as the appropriate right-sided or left-sided pages. Might not be a big deal, but it DOES mean that something was omitted - maybe a cover image? Also, if the layout was screwed up by IDW in any way it could impact any splash pages and so on.

It's okay. Everything is the same in the Russian version, and we absolutely have nothing missing. In the original, the pages of the comic are interrupted by advertisements, so they cut them out. Also, the first issues don't have 2-page spreads, so that's not a problem at all.