New CGI movie - Page 28

*TigerClaw* · 04-13-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AlZarkovski

Characters: https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2021/...a-turtles-lds/

I wouldn't trust a site like that. They and We Got This Covered are known for click bait articles, and posting about rumors without linking to a source.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-13-2021, 03:25 PM

It sounds legit to me. But there are a LOT of typos and pretty obvious mistakes in that. The kind you might make if you were transcribing something you're reading into a Word document, or something.

*Leo656* · 04-13-2021, 03:25 PM

I can buy Leo having a chip on his shoulder but I'm not a fan of him being supremely arrogant.

Also the whole "He needs Them more than they need Him" thing. That's... that's actually the inverse of how their dynamic usually works.

These are definitely some bad stereotypes masquerading as "characters". I can see the "illusion" of depth they're trying to project into each of them, but... doesn't quite wash.

Raph "with his hands in his pockets"... oh, GREAT, we're gonna get them wearing People Clothes again. Barf.

Yeah, I don't really like any of this, to be blunt.

It comes off as legit to me, because that reads exactly like what a room full of Hollywood hacks trying to "reinvent" these characters would come up with.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-13-2021, 03:30 PM

I've listened to Rogen speak quite a bit and it does read "in his voice" very much.

*Leo656* · 04-13-2021, 03:33 PM

And more "You can tell they're Teenagers because they'll be dressing in Teenage People Clothes" stuff.

"Yay."

*Roseangelo* · 04-13-2021, 03:41 PM

Ralph has always been my favorite character.

*Leo656* · 04-13-2021, 03:46 PM

I know, right? It's either ignorance or being too lazy to proofread, and both of those things, where I sit, are inexcusable.

I mean, I know that nowadays it's far more rare to find an article where there AREN'T any typos or spelling errors, but... I refuse to just roll over and go along with it. STANDARDS, people.

*IndigoErth* · 04-13-2021, 03:58 PM

I don't even know what to think, it sounds like nonsense... it aught to be nonsense... but lord knows Nick & Co. are perfectly capable of nonsense.

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hands in his pockets, crossed arms

Well there's an interesting way to sulk... stop being weird, Ralph.

Though I can't decide if they mean pockets literately or just figuratively.

All killer no filler? Eegh. Can we just... not? Leo being the serious guy is good. But that line someone thought was clever sounds more like a wannabe serial killer, not the sometimes morally conflicted boy scout who at times even sees the better potential in an enemy if they'd only change their ways.

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Age: 13-16, Any ethnicity, (V.O.) LEAD

If there is any validity to this stuff at all... sounds like it might be pulled from casting info then. Basic descriptions for those looking to read for the parts.

*Galactus* · 04-13-2021, 06:07 PM

Those character descriptions sound awful. Also I loath it whenever press releases about new versions of TMNT say they are going to focus on the teenage aspect of the characters. It's usually an excuse to show them skate boarding and acting obnoxious. The turtles being teenagers is the least relevant part the characters. TMNT is not a 'coming of age' story in any of its iterations.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-13-2021, 06:11 PM

I suspect it'll be like a pie chart with like... 50% committed to the Teenage, 25% to the ninja, and the rest in service of a plot that will probably try to tug at the heartstrings in the manner of something between your average Pixar movie and a Judd Apatow movie.

*IndigoErth* · 04-13-2021, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

TMNT is not a 'coming of age' story in any of its iterations.

Nick/Rogen: "Challenge accepted."

*Andrew NDB* · 04-13-2021, 06:26 PM

It kind of is, if you take TMNT Vol. 1, #1-11, #19-21, and #48-62 as an overall arc. That is definitely a "coming of age" story, or at least it ends up being during CAW.

*Galactus* · 04-13-2021, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It kind of is, if you take TMNT Vol. 1, #1-11, #19-21, and #48-62 as an overall arc. That is definitely a "coming of age" story, or at least it ends up being during CAW.

I don't know. The first issue opens with Splinter pronouncing them as ready for their mission to take on the Shredder. We don't really see the journey they go on to get there.

After that they battle robots, find out a previously unknown aspect to their origin and go to other planets. None of that affects the characters in any meaningful way.

Focusing on the Vol. 1 Foot related stories the turtles (particularly Leo) suffer their first defeat and go on a journey to build their confidence back to the point they take on Shredder and the Foot a third time and win. That's not really a coming of age story. I would argue neither is City At War, I mean it's kinda suggested that perpetuating their war with the Foot out of a sense of vengeance, honour or simply because their bad guys is a quaint childish notion but I'm not sure that's a huge theme of the story.

*IMJ* · 04-13-2021, 07:58 PM

The entire farmhouse sequence and decision to man up and return to New York without Splinter is a direct example of the coming of age elements....

*Galactus* · 04-13-2021, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ

The entire farmhouse sequence and decision to man up and return to New York without Splinter is a direct example of the coming of age elements....

Like?

Characters go on emotional journeys but we don't always say they are coming of age. I feel if the turtles were not teenagers no one would think the Mirage turtles vs Foot story as a coming of age one. The turtles don't really 'man up' in Return To New York. Raphael forces them to follow him and strangely Splinter isn't even mentioned or even featured in the story. It's all about their own personal honour.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 04-13-2021, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I wouldn't trust a site like that. They and We Got This Covered are known for click bait articles, and posting about rumors without linking to a source.

I hope you're right because I'm not liking anything that I've read of the turtles descriptions.

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

All killer no filler? Eegh. Can we just... not? Leo being the serious guy is good. But that line someone thought was clever sounds more like a wannabe serial killer, not the sometimes morally conflicted boy scout who at times even sees the better potential in an enemy if they'd only change their ways.

They just can't seem to stop attempting to "reinvent the wheel for Leo."

*TigerClaw* · 04-13-2021, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

I hope you're right because I'm not liking anything that I've read of the turtles descriptions.

They just can't seem to stop attempting to "reinvent the wheel for Leo."

Articles from that site got banned from the Power Rangers Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/powerranger...een_banned_on/

They would usually post click bait articles with exclusive without mentioning any sources.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-13-2021, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

I don't know. The first issue opens with Splinter pronouncing them as ready for their mission to take on the Shredder. We don't really see the journey they go on to get there.

It's not about getting to that point. They're still blank slates by that point. The "coming of age" in my mind is, they were raised all of their lives to one day kill Shredder... they DID, and now are kind of like, "Well, now what?" and have to figure that out. In CAW.

I'm leery to say either way whether the Rogen version will have Turtles doing legit ninja stuff and killing bad guys or if it'll just be a glorified "Kung Fu Panda" level of violence. He could deliver the goods.

*newfan* · 04-14-2021, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

All killer no filler? Eegh. Can we just... not?

Yeah I'm not feeling that personality description.

Taking with a pinch of Salt until something more official comes out though.

~~AquaParade~~ · 04-14-2021, 02:28 AM

That's just the type of silly attempt at appearing vaguely realistic derail that makes me think it is fake - "all killer, no filler." That's rich. Good for a chuckle.
In other words, I don't think this is real. But I'm resigning myself to the fact that the movie could be something like this.

04-13-2021, 03:25 PM	#542
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,273	It sounds legit to me. But there are a LOT of typos and pretty obvious mistakes in that. The kind you might make if you were transcribing something you're reading into a Word document, or something. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

04-13-2021, 03:25 PM	#543
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	I can buy Leo having a chip on his shoulder but I'm not a fan of him being supremely arrogant. Also the whole "He needs Them more than they need Him" thing. That's... that's actually the inverse of how their dynamic usually works. These are definitely some bad stereotypes masquerading as "characters". I can see the "illusion" of depth they're trying to project into each of them, but... doesn't quite wash. Raph "with his hands in his pockets"... oh, GREAT, we're gonna get them wearing People Clothes again. Barf. Yeah, I don't really like any of this, to be blunt. It comes off as legit to me, because that reads exactly like what a room full of Hollywood hacks trying to "reinvent" these characters would come up with. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

04-13-2021, 03:30 PM	#544
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,273	I've listened to Rogen speak quite a bit and it does read "in his voice" very much. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

04-13-2021, 03:33 PM	#545
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	And more "You can tell they're Teenagers because they'll be dressing in Teenage People Clothes" stuff. "Yay." __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

04-13-2021, 03:41 PM	#546
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 8,979	Ralph has always been my favorite character. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

04-13-2021, 03:46 PM	#547
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	I know, right? It's either ignorance or being too lazy to proofread, and both of those things, where I sit, are inexcusable. I mean, I know that nowadays it's far more rare to find an article where there AREN'T any typos or spelling errors, but... I refuse to just roll over and go along with it. STANDARDS, people. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

04-13-2021, 06:07 PM	#549
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,949	Those character descriptions sound awful. Also I loath it whenever press releases about new versions of TMNT say they are going to focus on the teenage aspect of the characters. It's usually an excuse to show them skate boarding and acting obnoxious. The turtles being teenagers is the least relevant part the characters. TMNT is not a 'coming of age' story in any of its iterations.

04-13-2021, 06:11 PM	#550
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,273	I suspect it'll be like a pie chart with like... 50% committed to the Teenage, 25% to the ninja, and the rest in service of a plot that will probably try to tug at the heartstrings in the manner of something between your average Pixar movie and a Judd Apatow movie. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

04-13-2021, 06:26 PM	#552
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,273	It kind of is, if you take TMNT Vol. 1, #1-11, #19-21, and #48-62 as an overall arc. That is definitely a "coming of age" story, or at least it ends up being during CAW. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

04-13-2021, 07:58 PM	#554
IMJ Emperor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest, U.S.A. Posts: 6,991	The entire farmhouse sequence and decision to man up and return to New York without Splinter is a direct example of the coming of age elements.... __________________ Wave 1 Collectibles Online Market Watch Blog Collection Photography

04-14-2021, 02:28 AM	#560
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	That's just the type of silly attempt at appearing vaguely realistic derail that makes me think it is fake - "all killer, no filler." That's rich. Good for a chuckle. In other words, I don't think this is real. But I'm resigning myself to the fact that the movie could be something like this.