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View Poll Results: They could have seriously made this a two-parter with more backstory...
Of Course I'm going to attack you! 16 18.60%
I would eat him just to shut him up... 36 41.86%
We have to find that helmet or we'll have to keep looking at Shredder's gross face. 13 15.12%
Who gave Michael Jackson a mohawk and a tron suit? 10 11.63%
Want More Foot History NOW!! 11 12.79%
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:12 PM   #81
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Everybody it's so sure that the russian it's going to be Rocksteady... But how can we be so sure? If he get mutated, why he would join Shredder? He is not a loyal ally in my point of view
Well, if he managed to get Baxter Stockman to work for him, then he can certainly manage getting Steranko and Zeck to work for him.
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:14 PM   #82
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Who said Bebop & Rocksteady are going to work for Shredder in this iteration? I hope they don't.
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:18 PM   #83
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Pheh, forget all that (lol not really), I'm just curious how it's gonna play out that they get mutated with creatures not normally found in the city. Hmm..
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:21 PM   #84
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You have to take into account that all the characters in the Nick series are In Name Only, They won't be like the originals, Since this series is its own thing.

That Russian dude is going to be Rocksteady whether people like it or not, I have no problem with it.
Exactly. And seeing as TMNT started as a parody of Marvel comics, something about the giant rhino-man being a Russian criminal just seems... right, somehow.

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Who said Bebop & Rocksteady are going to work for Shredder in this iteration? I hope they don't.
Good point. Could be fun having them as their own separate criminal duo. These versions certainly have the skills and the smarts to do it alone.
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:21 PM   #85
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Quite decent episode, although some things were bothering me a bit. I liked the idea of three-sides conflict, but without Kraang. Jesting and frivolous Anton was quite unusual character (well, most of the "bad guys" are dark and serious, I'm not telling that it is bad, although it's a nice change to have someone different from the scheme), but his cheers and laughter became after some time irritating for me. By the way - it would be quite interesting, if Anton and Steranko even after mutation would still be "on their own". I like them as "another team", and have hope that they won't join (be forced to join?) to the one of the existing sides.

Aaand it's always nice to see something from the Foot Clan history, even if the idea of 1500 years helmet (used through this whole time by the FC leaders, and yet still in such shape) was ridiculous.

I must admit, that I liked the idea of Tiger Claw & Rahzar duo, finally some mutants in Shredder's crew that are quite good company for themselves, not under compulsion.

Well, most of us already mentioned about the ending... But yeah, that was like an abrupt film.

Tiger Claw was fighting much weaker than in the previous episode. Well, nothing new (someone already noticed, that there was big difference between first appearance of Rahzar and his role in Manhattan Project), but still, from episode to episode, it was stinging in the eyes a bit.

Decent episode, but it's no match for "Wrath of Tiger Claw". On the other hand - it is not a shame, "Wrath.." raised the bar reaaaly high.

And now two weeks of waiting for conclusion (or maybe beginning of conclusion?) of big twist with Splinter's daughter. Can't wait, can't wait
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:31 PM   #86
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I loved this episode. Don't get me wrong, Wrath of Tiger Claw was really, REALLY great, probably my favorite episode with Slash and Destroy following after. Dominic did a good job voicing Leo, and I feel I could get used to it after a while. I was a bit disappointed with the action throughout the episode, but that 20 second fight with Shredder was just great and was the icing on the cake for me. I really wish they would show more and longer Shredder fights, as that's one of the highlights about this show. And it was nice to see the Shredder's character development with Karai, and I laughed pretty hard at that scene with Leo and Shredder.
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:39 PM   #87
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This would be in my Top 5 Episodes of Season 2 if it weren't for Leo's voice.

I know it's not a big deal but everytime Leo spoke, it just took me out of the episode! Jason Biggs is actually one of my favourites in the new series and if they were to replace him, I wish they atleast got Michael Sinterniklaas back or something....
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:40 PM   #88
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Here's Black Nerd's recap of this episode.

Loool! Love that guy's recaps. He does a great Bebop impression.
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:51 PM   #89
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This episode was awesome! Loved the intro to Bebop and Rocksteady. Looks like it'll be interesting to see them mutated. And Steranko would work for Shredder because they were old friends once, so he may be forced to do so if he gets mutated by Shredder. Really liked J.B. Smoove as Zeck. He did a good job, and I can't wait to see more of him.

The history behind Shredder's helmet was great as was his conversation with Karai. Loved how Leo fought Shredder and how the bad guys teamed up. Tiger Claw's and Rahzar's conversation was hilarious. "I DO want to eat him because he's a fish." "I want to eat him just to shut him up." Also loved Steranko's lines here. "I'll pop you like blueberry." "Why am I smelling the baby poops?"

As for Dominic's voice acting, I loved it. It wasn't bad at all, and if he's replacing Jason permanently, then I'm all for it. He did show emotion when the sign fell on his brothers, and even when he was determined to save Karai. It was great. Bring it on!

Overall, a pretty awesome episode. Can't wait to see more of this arc in two weeks, though I'm anxious for Plan 10 to see how that turns out, too.

I also can't wait to see Steranko and Zeck as Bebop and Rocksteady as I feel it'll be amusing to see these two trying to work together.
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:03 PM   #90
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Good point. Could be fun having them as their own separate criminal duo. These versions certainly have the skills and the smarts to do it alone.
See my previous assumption!

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I suppose that after her escape from prison Karai will be starting her own gang. It will ally itself sometimes with the Turtles and sometimes with Shredder, as well as Bebop & Rocksteady working for her!
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:08 PM   #91
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You have to take into account that all the characters in the Nick series are In Name Only, They won't be like the originals, Since this series is its own thing.

That Russian dude is going to be Rocksteady whether people like it or not, I have no problem with it.
Uh, what? The characters aren't just name only they are the characters.
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:30 PM   #92
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Fun episode, though I can't believe it didn't hit me sooner that Steranko would be Rocksteady. Glass eyes... brass knuckles and spiked shoulder pads... a gold tooth/tusk....
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:49 PM   #93
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This would be in my Top 5 Episodes of Season 2 if it weren't for Leo's voice.

I know it's not a big deal but everytime Leo spoke, it just took me out of the episode! Jason Biggs is actually one of my favourites in the new series and if they were to replace him, I wish they atleast got Michael Sinterniklaas back or something....
Mike Sinterniklaas is my favorite voice for Leo but the new voice isn't bad, just noticeably different. I would fangasm in a heartbeat if he even voices at all I this show.

This episode was pretty decent. The third time the turtles fight the Shredder. Although as soon as the turtles grabbed Karai, it came to me that the Karai they rescued might be a fake.
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:53 PM   #94
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I never did comment on Leo's voice in this ep. It was okay. He sounds fine, but....I will admit to Jason Biggs having a better delivery. The stand in/replacement (whichever) just needs to work on it more. As I've said before, at least it's not completely awful, like OT Donnie and Raph's voice standins.

You know, given this characterization of Leonardo, I wonder how Cam Clarke would voice him.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:10 PM   #95
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So they steal my Mikey needing two pizza's bit and they don't even aknowledge me, this is bull...
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:18 PM   #96
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Uh, what? The characters aren't just name only they are the characters.
Nope. I don't remember seeing dr. Falco, Anton, Chris Bradford, and the Pulverizer in the old cartoon. They are these characters in name only. Especially Bradford.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:32 PM   #97
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Watching the episode right now and I'm finding Leo's alt-voice very distracting. It's kinda uncanny valley-esque, like he's been replaced by a look-alike impostor who really needs to work on their Leonardo impression. If they keep doing this regularly, I might stop watching.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:43 PM   #98
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Nope. I don't remember seeing dr. Falco, Anton, Chris Bradford, and the Pulverizer in the old cartoon. They are these characters in name only. Especially Bradford.
That's why I love this show, they aren't the 80's show characters. They are completely separate people
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:47 PM   #99
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This is the first time (In moving form atleast) Shredder show's affection towards anything, i kinda like that. It's awesome reason for a samurai helmet on a ninja plus it gives him some depth beyond turtle soup.
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:00 PM   #100
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Rocksteady is a russian general while Bebop is a master thief. So does Rocksteady have authority over Bebop or is it just a buisness contract where he is working WITH Bebop?
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