Writers’ Strike

[Cowabung-Gal]

So a bunch of Hollywood TV and film writers are going on strike and because of that projects are being put on hold. Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert and Seth Meyers’ late-night shows are also shutting down.

…excellent.

Maybe now real writers will take their place and make movies good again.

And the writers who are going on strike obviously don’t understand basic economics. Our economy is a complete mess and studios like Disney are having to lay off employees in the thousands. Still they demand more money. I thought many of them were Marxists who cared more about the message than making money anyway?

[IMJ]

Isn't it amazing how you can do that in a capitalistic free market? See - in this style of society you can live in capitalism and deploy certain socialistic strategies as needed, but in socialism you can't deploy anything but drones.

[ZariusTwo]

First time in 15 years, remember the commotion in 2007? People always go on about how the talk shows got better with the strike (Conan especially) and how it ruined shows like Heroes at the time.

Generation Z are obsessed with themselves and content creations on Tiktok and Youtube too so they won't be fussed about this, if they don't get the content, they make it. Same with millennials and fanfilms/webcomics

[IndigoErth]

To a point I can understand. Maybe they can pay the celebrities a million less out of the multi-millions THEY get for some reason and pay the writers, who give them the material to become famous on, a little better.

On the other hand, if you're making above your local cost of living... really, calm down, there are so many people struggling who don't because their jobs are deemed even less worthy of a reasonably okay income than yours. Should the guy who wrote the jokes for a late night show really earn more than a teacher trying to help produce decent future adult citizens that might actually contribute more someday? They're even wading through all that Gen Z BS now in their classrooms every day and aren't even getting any added hazard pay for it.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Maybe now real writers will take their place and make movies good again.

Maybe if guild-free independent film makers, writers, etc take opportunity to grab some attention while the rest are on hiatus...if timing works out for them.

Questionable if anyone who is a part of that guild would even be allowed to work if they didn't agree and didn't care to protest. edit: Yup, they can't. So even any "good" writers you might approve of who are a part of the guild are stuck having to comply. Good time for independent non-union writers to take advantage, but not everyone will work with non-union people...

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Maybe if guild-free independent film makers, writers, etc take opportunity to grab some attention while the rest are on hiatus...if timing works out for them.

Though it's not like this changes anything for non-guild filmmakers. They were still doing their thing before the strike and will continue doing their thing during it. It's not like their output level is suddenly going to go up.

And this doesn't really affect things the way you might think. A studio can still, for example, pull a script out of the drawer that somebody pitched 2 years ago, and put that movie into production tomorrow. Also, there's nothing stopping a director from "rewriting" the script on the fly, as they're shooting. There is nothing that guarantees a screenwriter's script has to be adhered to, 100%, word for word, because that's ridiculous.

[IndigoErth]

True, maybe one of those PD live action reboot scripts could get some attention, assuming they were actually written and only got shelved.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Though it's not like this changes anything for non-guild filmmakers. They were still doing their thing before the strike and will continue doing their thing during it. It's not like their output level is suddenly going to go up.

No, though if it went on a while I meant more in the sense that it might give independents a little more of a shot with audiences if the block buster stuff was not dominating quite as much, IF it were to cause a little bit of a lull down the line. Unless, as you say, they just grab an old script they'd tossed aside for a while. 'Course, they could settle the matter by next week and then it doesn't matter a bit.

[Wildcat]

I just hope this doesn’t delay GB4 or the Knuckles tv show.

Knuckles will probably get delayed. It seemed to barely start. GB could because some rewrites and revisions often happen during production. That happens with everything.

[ZariusTwo]

American Horror Story production disrupted

https://twitter.com/kaitlinfontana/s...DSsbnP8PMtAAAA

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I just hope this doesn’t delay GB4 or the Knuckles tv show.

GB4 is literally filming. It's fine.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

GB4 is literally filming. It's fine.

But scene rewrites and line rewrites do happen during productions of everything. They happen for whatever reason. If they can’t make changes for the better of the movie I wouldn’t want them to be forced into keeping things as is.

It made wonder what exactly would be allowed. Is changing a few words considered writing. What if it’s something minor like changing the order of stuff?
Do you get into trouble for continuing to write or do you just look bad?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

But scene rewrites and line rewrites do happen during productions of everything. They happen for whatever reason. If they can’t make changes for the better of the movie I wouldn’t want them to be forced into keeping things as is.

Like shut down the movie and say, "Hang on, we need the writers to do up a new draft!" No, that almost never happens, ever.

It made wonder what exactly would be allowed. Is changing a few words considered writing. What if it’s something minor like changing the order of stuff?

The only thing different in a strike is they can't suddenly write up an actual new draft of something. And again, directors can "rewrite" a movie on the fly. It happens all the time. The director will have a new idea on set, or an actor wants to say some lines differently or add a line, or the director doesn't like X Y or Z in the script, etc..

Do you get into trouble for continuing to write or do you just look bad?

Probably a lot of writers are doing so. They just won't say that they are.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The only thing different in a strike is they can't suddenly write up an actual new draft of something. And again, directors can "rewrite" a movie on the fly. It happens all the time. The director will have a new idea on set, or an actor wants to say some lines differently or add a line, or the director doesn't like X Y or Z in the script, etc..

This is what I meant. Isn’t Jason and Gil part of the guild? That’s what I saw someone mention. If it’s just that new drafts can’t be made then maybe it’s fine but I really don’t know how far it goes and we don’t know how everyone feels about it.

[ZariusTwo]

During the last writer's strike, some actors did write bits of the script for their projects too. Daniel Craig and the director sorted out Quantium of Solace, and Robert Downey Junior and Jon Favreau edited Iron Man

[member_removed]

WTF is GB4?

Is that the Ghostbusters Afterlife sequel?

Hopefully this will slow down the MCU, for me that has gone from fun to a downright chore.

[frank_one]

Originally Posted by member_removed

WTF is GB4?

Is that the Ghostbusters Afterlife sequel?

Yes. They are already filming it.

[ZariusTwo]

The writers strike is now impacting overall deals. Just days into the work stoppage, major TV studios have started sending out letters to writer/producers under overall agreements, telling them that their deals are being suspended.

No one would comment but I hear Warner Bros. Television, Universal Studio Group, CBS Studios and Disney Television Studios’ 20th Television and ABC Signature are among those that have sent such notifications, with Sony Pictures Television relaying the message in conversations with representatives or informal emails. I hear the letters started going out Thursday and Friday; with some talent getting calls at the end of this week, to be followed by formal letters Monday.

https://deadline.com/2023/05/writers...al-1235358556/

[Bahamut810]

Last time this happened? Lots of new Youtube projects launched. I anticipate this will be another godsend for non-hollywood media.

[TurtleManiac]

Their late night shows are not even funny anymore, at all. It’s all just DNC commie propaganda catering to the woke crowd. Nothing of value is lost. And those late night show hosts like Kimmel are not even tweeting their trashy celeb views anymore since the writers strike, proving once again theyre all just a bunch of fake paid Hollywood shills.

[ZariusTwo]

SAG-AFTRA National Board Unanimously Agrees To Send Authorization Vote To Members



https://www.sagaftra.org/sag-aftra-n...n-vote-members

[ToSte]

Do we even need those people anymore? A minute on ChatGPT results in more entertaining material than any of the drivel produced these days.