05-21-2021, 02:15 PM | #1 | |
Overlord
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP!
Posts: 20,934
|
Highlander Reboot With Henry Caville
Quote:
|
|
05-21-2021, 02:42 PM | #2 |
Weed Whacker
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 29,350
|
And he's saying he is brushing up on his Scottish heritage... so he's definitely Connor and not, say, the Kurgan (which I actually think he'd be better at).
__________________
|
05-21-2021, 05:38 PM | #3 |
Emperor
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 9,487
|
Here we are, born to be kings
We're the princes of the universe Here we belong, fighting to survive In a world with the darkest powers Heh And here we are, we're the princes of the universe Here we belong, fighting for survival We've come to be the rulers of you all I am immortal, I have inside me blood of kings, yeah, yeah I have no rival, no man can be my equal Take me to the future of you all Born to be kings, princes of the universe Fighting and free Got your world in my hand I'm here for your love and I'll make my stand We were born to be princes of the universe No man could understand My power is in my own hand Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, people talk about you People say you've had your day I'm a man that will go far Fly the moon and reach for the stars With my sword and head held high Got to pass the test first time, yeah I know that people talk about me, I hear it every day But I can prove them wrong 'cause I'm right first time Yeah, yeah Alright, let's go, let's go, ha ha Yeah, watch this man fly, wooh Bring on the girls, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon Here we are (here we are) Born to be kings, we're the princes of the universe Here we belong Born to be kings, princes of the universe Fighting and free, got your world in my hand I'm here for your love and I'll make my stand We were born to be princes of the universe (universe, universe, universe) |
05-23-2021, 03:53 PM | #4 |
Mad Scientist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,890
|
Yeah based on Cavill’s comments he’s almost certainly Connor. Personally I could see him more as Duncan than Connor but I also wouldn’t be too surprised if they draw some elements from Duncan and the series mythology if they’re planning this out for sequels rather than just a one off.
|
05-23-2021, 07:27 PM | #5 |
Emperor
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Midwest, U.S.A.
Posts: 7,013
|
This is interesting.
Was always a much bigger fan of the T.V. show than the movie's though.... |
05-30-2021, 07:12 PM | #6 |
Emperor
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 9,487
|
So I looked into the Highlander series and as it turns out, they're all box office bombs, even the first one. The only exceptions are the TV/DVD movies for rather obvious reasons. How the hell does that happen?
"Let's make Highlander 2!" "But sir, Highlander bombed! Why would we make another one?" "Becuase it gained popularity on video!" "OK..." One movie later "Let's make Highlander 3!" "Sir, not only was Highlander 2 the second bomb in a row, it was hot garbage, nobody liked it." "Sure, OK, let's just ignore it..." "Sir, it doesn't matter, the general audience don't seem to like this series!" "... And call it Highlander 3 despite ignoring the second one!" "... OK, whatever you say..." Another movie later "Let's make Highlander 4!" "Jesus Christ, why?" "Why not?" "We lost money three times in a row on this horseshit! Why do you want to make another one at all!?" "..." "Fine... Whatever, I'm dead inside..." Yet another movie later "Let's make Highlander 5!" "..." "You're not going to object?" "What's the point?" "Don't you... Have any objections at all?" "Well... If home video is the only venue where people watch these, let's just ignore the theatres..." "OK" "OK" |
05-30-2021, 08:04 PM | #7 |
The Franchise
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: nWo Country
Posts: 27,696
|
I think it's basically just that there's a germ of a good idea in there that people like in theory, even if it's only really been successfully done once. It's a concept that gets people buzzing a bit when they hear that they might be getting more of it, but then they get a series of diminishing returns and over time that causes problems. But in theory, people are generally on-board with the broad strokes of it, to the point where they'd be okay getting more of it so long as it was done well.
I mean the "elevator pitch" is pretty cool, honestly; bunch of "immortal" guys hacking each others' heads off with swords, "last one standing claims The Prize", all that. There's lore and catchphrases... on paper it's got everything a franchise needs. They just continually forgot to make good movies after the first one. And another problem is, the first one ties things up SO neatly that it left nowhere to go unless they were either going to go full-prequel, rewrite the lore, or shift protagonists, each of which could be problematic (and some of which they've tried along the way, but in ways that always felt like desperation rather than organic storytelling). It's honestly very much like the Terminator franchise, really. With a lot of the same things working for it but also a lot of identical problems along the way. Aside from the story being based around Future Robots instead of Ancient Immortals, the only real difference is that the Terminator franchise at least managed to produce two-and-a-half good movies and Highlander only managed the one.
__________________
"I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/ |
05-31-2021, 12:33 AM | #8 |
Weed Whacker
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 29,350
|
Highlander 1 was modestly a success. They made Highlander 2 but it destroyed all credibility of Highlander as a movie franchise. Highlander 3 was a requel to the first movie, basically an apology... but too little too late and not as good as the first one. Highlander 4 was their attempt to (relatively cheaply) launch the Highlander from the TV series into his own while wrapping up Connor's story. Highlander 5 was an even cheaper attempt by Lion's Gate to literally make a Highlander slasher movie... it didn't work but nobody saw it anyway.
The TV series and the first movie is mostly what has made the fandom endure, in that order. Personally I really like the fourth movie. 90% of the fandom has always mostly been comprised of older ladies who dig the romance the most and want to have sex with Adrian Paul or Peter Wingfield (or write fanfics where they f*** each other). The remaining 10% is guys like me, who enjoy the idea of... you know... the guy on the subway might be a 2,000 year old Immortal packing a sword.
__________________
|
05-31-2021, 01:12 PM | #9 |
Foot Soldier
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Sewers
Posts: 199
|
Highlander is a perfect movie. It doesn't need a rebbot.
|
06-01-2021, 12:23 AM | #10 |
Weed Whacker
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 29,350
|
Decent for its time but it hasn't really aged well (well, the Scotland stuff still looks great). And all the Queen stuff really dates it.
__________________
|
06-01-2021, 09:48 AM | #11 |
Emperor
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Midwest, U.S.A.
Posts: 7,013
|
This exactly. It's a lot like the Crow. It's watchable, but it isn't timeless and it certainly takes you back for the good and the bad.
|
06-01-2021, 01:03 PM | #12 |
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,129
|
|
06-01-2021, 03:16 PM | #13 |
Emperor
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Midwest, U.S.A.
Posts: 7,013
|
Queen is largely associated with 70's arena rock. It's not a problem, but it is dated.
|
06-01-2021, 03:48 PM | #14 |
The Franchise
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: nWo Country
Posts: 27,696
|
It's not Queen's fault that "culture" has fallen into the toilet since then.
We have not made progress.
__________________
"I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/ |
06-02-2021, 03:00 AM | #15 |
Foot Elite
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,980
|
I'm just surprised they are doing a reboot of a franchise and cast a white male as the lead.
|
06-02-2021, 03:17 AM | #16 | |
Weed Whacker
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 29,350
|
Quote:
That said, I love the original Michael Kamen orchestral score. THAT is timeless. They kind of have to. It's in the name Highlander. Not a whole lot of black Scots in the 1500s. And it was almost Ryan Reynolds maybe 5 years ago. That was all the news. Also that Tom Cruise would be Ramirez.
__________________
|
|
06-02-2021, 09:18 AM | #17 | |
Emperor
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Midwest, U.S.A.
Posts: 7,013
|
Quote:
There's no denying Queen's popularity either, and I have some appreciation for what they did too. But the truth is that the biggest cross-generational bump that they got was renewed relevance because of Wayne's World. |
|
06-02-2021, 03:43 PM | #18 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,129
|
Quote:
Quote:
Guess, its just a lucky cards. |
||
06-02-2021, 04:59 PM | #19 | |
The Franchise
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: nWo Country
Posts: 27,696
|
Quote:
By the way, we're super lucky that Netflix isn't in charge of the Highlander reboot.
__________________
"I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/ |
|
06-06-2021, 12:39 AM | #20 |
Foot Soldier
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Sewers
Posts: 199
|
|
|
|