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Old 08-28-2019, 02:23 PM   #1
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Parliment is to be suspended mid-September, cutting precious time from remainers to oppose a no-deal Brexit
I've read this, but what does this mean? Who are the "remainers" (people in power?) and how will they oppose it, at this point?

Edit: Like right now, I just saw someone make a post with an image that says, "8/28/2019: The day the Tories killed democracy in the United Kingdom." What are they talking about?

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Old 06-20-2023, 10:13 AM   #2
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So it's been 4 years. Did Brexit complete, or what?
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Old 06-20-2023, 10:34 AM   #3
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So it's been 4 years. Did Brexit complete, or what?
Yes and no. THey voted to brexit. As far as I am aware the UK and EU have not reached a deal to complete Brexit and the govt is dragging their feet because of the deals they are being offered.
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Old 06-20-2023, 12:19 PM   #4
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In the meantime, the government has also went through five different Prime Minsters (including one that couldn't outlast a cabbage), countless resignations, had members discredited for staging house parties during the pandemic etc....
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Old 06-20-2023, 12:51 PM   #5
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So it's been 4 years. Did Brexit complete, or what?
Yes it's done.

For a long time the major sticking point was what to do with the Northern Irish border. Boris Johnson won a landslide election on the promise the deal he was putting forward would solve this but he was unwilling to reveal what this "oven ready" deal was to the electorate or his own mps. This may sound absurd but I think most of the public were so desperate to get Brexit over with they were willing to vote for anyone who claimed to have a solution without even scrutinising it. As for his own mps that wanted to know what the mystery deal was before they supported it, he purged them and replaced them with new ones that were willing to support the mystery deal.

It should come as no surprise Boris' perfect deal was a pile of garbage that was never going to work. Much as I hate to say it but his successor Sunak was able to negotiate a deal that at least temporarily solves the problem of the Northern Irish border.

So yep, it's done. It also seems to have been a huge failure for Britain. All of the vast economic damage that was predicted by experts but dismissed as fear mongering is coming to pass. Many who voted to leave in the belief it would drasticaly lower immigration are very angry that while it has drastically lowered immigration from Europe due to them feeling unwelcome we've had record levels of in increase in immigration from other parts of the world. Current polls shows a clear majority of people think it's been a failure.

Despite this there is little appetite to have a referendum on rejoining. Partly because we'd not have much of the special status as we had the first time but mainly given how polarised people became on Brexit few people want to re-open the issue and feel it's best to try and move on. None of the major political parties are advocating another referendum. Still there are grifters out there trying to make political capital that the reason it failed is because we did it wrong and attempt to fear monger about how the elites will force us back in somehow. At this point it seems unlikely to work.

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Old 06-20-2023, 01:41 PM   #6
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So you are B'rtish.
It explains a lot.
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