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I remember reading the same things. That he would always say and vow, "Crisis on Infinite Earths was only a half measure! It didn't re-number everything back to #1. That's what we need to do now!" as if that'd be some kind of cure-all.
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It's pretty sadly hysterical that that's DC's last ditch effort to save their comics. Like, that's been the supposed power play in their pocket this whole time, this kind of SJW button on the wall with a "break in case of emergency" over it? Pathetic. They deserve to fail.
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I was under the impression that G5 was more of a legacy-character event, not necessarily "SJW-related", but I haven't been totally keeping up.
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Makes you wonder, how is this supposed to work with something like Green Lantern? That's not a mantle... it's a ring. And it's lots of them. Are Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, Jessica Cruz, and Simon Baz all just suddenly going to retire?
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Yeah, it's f*cking pathetic because as MikeandRaph mentioned in another thread, DC already has a TON of legacy characters that have been perfectly set up and established for just this kind of stunt... BUT, as I pointed out in the same thread, they're all too white and too straight to be "allowed" to step into the roles that some of them have been set up for over DECADES of stories already. So we have to whip up a bunch of not-white, not-straight characters out of thin air and cram them down everybody's throats instead when the people reading the books would rather have Wally West and Dick Grayson.
As CKD said, it didn't work for Marvel, because blatant pandering nonsense like this is incredibly transparent, and as Andrew pointed out, deserves to fail because it's sh*tty on its face. In other notes... - Man, Cry For Justice was terrible. Good artwork, though. Story was a f*ckin' pooch. - Man, "Blackest Night" was great. Especially considering how all-encompassing it was. How'd they not screw that up, I wonder? One of the very few "events" that I really don't have any problems with whatsoever.
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Not after the first couple of issues. Remember, they changed their painted artist out with a regular artist when Didio changed the story midway through?
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Well *I* liked it.
And forgive me for not remembering more about the artwork in Cry For Justice. I read it A-to-Z all of once and since then all I remember about it was from Linkara's videos, which I also haven't watched in a long time. I knew that whole thing was gonna suck when it was announced. "It's a new JLA, except they go out and beat up bad guys for things they MIGHT do soon but haven't done just yet, and also stuff they already did and were already punished for in previous stories. Because JUSTICE!" I remember the editors being SO gung-ho about it, when it was originally an ongoing and not a mini-series - "This is what the JLA SHOULD be doing all the time! Go out and stop bad guys BEFORE they do bad things, not just wait for bad things to happen and then go clean up the mess afterwards!" - and I remember myself and others going "Um... that's kinda fascist, boss." Little bit too Minority Report, for me. And I guess they hadn't thought about it like that at all until people started pointing it out, because five minutes later it was a mini-series. What a f*cking wreck. And all that story really served to do at all, was undo about 20+ years of Roy Harper's character development and turn him into a junkie scumbag again, thus ensuring that I'd never root for him again no matter how many "redemption" arcs they'd try and give him after that, because now he's firmly established as a whiny bum who gives up and starts shooting up every time he has a bad day. He was supposed to have been way, way past that sh*t. Nope, still a loser! Way to make me completely quit on a character I was finally starting to like, DC. I gotta stop. That was such a terrible series I could be here until tomorrow ripping on it. But I maintain that Blackest Night was awesome.
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This isn't good, now DC have pulled Friday's co-publishers panel at C2E2, although Jim Lee will still be in attendance with a Spotlight panel scheduled for Saturday
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This is good update of the situation. It also said Jeph Loeb was seen going into DC offices on Monday.
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Jim Lee hosted a panel this morning suggesting that he will remain the sole publisher and that 5G will not be a full line wide reboot. The one thing that bothers me is "and developing characters that are inclusive and diverse." My response is, "make new characters".
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...departure-c2e2
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You know the old saying from Yes Minister....'don't believe anything until it's been officially denied'
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He is the sole publisher for now. There were reports of Jeph Loeb being asked to the DC offices. We can assume he said "no" and its all speculation. That being said, since Didio is gone can Batman and Catwoman have a legal marriage and inspired by his father figure Dick follows up with a proposal to Barbara and they go through with it? Its time for marriages to be gone through with. There was a time the Hawks for married to each other, each Flash, Wonder Woman was married to Steve Trevor, The Atom, Adam Strange, Animal Man, Saturn Girl to Lightning Lad and a few others. It was more than Aquaman to Mera just because she could fight alongside him.
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Earlier in the thread I was talking about my observations and experiences with Joe Quesada. Then lo and behold I saw some articles implying that DC might bring Joe Quesada in.
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Can't really disagree. I was very intrigued by the Sinestro Corps, and then later on the whole "rainbow Corps" thing, simply because I saw it as a story with a beginning, middle, and end, which hadn't been done before in the GL mythos and had a lot of potential. And I really enjoyed the Sinestro Corps and Blackest Night stories a whole bunch at the time, as they felt like an organic progression and expansion of the idea.
If you had told me in 2006, however, that the various colored Corps would still be around and pretty much be the only storytelling device in the GL mythos through the year 2020, I'd be pretty annoyed and possibly not believe you. It does seem like the entire Green Lantern brand has been in a holding pattern ever since then, unable to move past what was originally a fairly creative idea. I'm similar to you in that I stopped heavily collecting comics shortly after Blackest Night wrapped, but there were a variety of factors in play for that.
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It was anything but that. Every single event was cliffhung into the next. There's never been an ending since, like, early 2000s GL stories.
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