DC Relaunching AGAIN - Page 36

*ZariusTwo* · 12-15-2016, 12:47 PM

Superman Reborn dominates the month of March

So, tragedy for Lois and Clark, Jon as the prize in a deadly game, Clark's life drastically changed, and the revelations of Mr Oz's cryptic words
Oh, and Paul Dini is writing a back-up for Action#975

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Who is this New Super-Man?

An asian superhero who has a copy of Superman's genome, he fights crime alongside the Chinese versions of Batman and Wonder Woman.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-21-2016, 08:57 AM

Batman...King's just taking the piss now. He made Bane a wimp. Taken out with just one kick to the back from Selina? "Naked" Scarface? What?

Cyborg...all over the place with characters flip-flopping and loads of double-bluffs, but damn entertaining.

JL vs SS...not a bad start. Pity they spoiled the big comeback in solits.

Trinity, gorgeous art, and Ivy can pack a mean punch (but she has the sense to have concern for Supes' kid)

Superman...alright, poor Frankenstien though. Nice ending with the Kent family.

saintsaucey · 12-21-2016, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Detective Comics was pretty boring except for Clayface, and Red Hood and the Outlaws was great. Not really much to say on either one... mostly a lot of punching.

Detective comics is amazing right now.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-21-2016, 09:14 AM

One says Detective Comics is boring and the other says its great. Would forms you opinion that its boring, CKD? What forms your opinion that it is great, Saintsaucy? I am curious to what forms the opposite opinions?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-21-2016, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

One says Detective Comics is boring and the other says its great. Would forms you opinion that its boring, CKD? What forms your opinion that it is great, Saintsaucy? I am curious to what forms the opposite opinions?

It's just a bunch of predictable punching and growling. Nothing we haven't seen before.

At this point, Batman comics have to always be doing something unique and different, whether on a grand scale or a small personal scale, and this just felt typical. Except, as I mentioned, the Clayface stuff.

Oh, and I hate predictable. Everything in this issue was predictable.

*myconius* · 12-21-2016, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Batman...King's just taking the piss now. He made Bane a wimp. Taken out with just one kick to the back from Selina? "Naked" Scarface? What?

Tom King must be operating as a double agent.
trying to take down one of DC's best selling books with bad writing.
seems the plan has backfired as some fanboys are still frothing over it, just cuz it's BATMAN!!!

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

It's just a bunch of predictable punching and growling. Nothing we haven't seen before.

At this point, Batman comics have to always be doing something unique and different, whether on a grand scale or a small personal scale, and this just felt typical. Except, as I mentioned, the Clayface stuff.

Oh, and I hate predictable. Everything in this issue was predictable.

this series did start out with some potential, but has been getting very 'Meh'.

saintsaucey · 12-22-2016, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

One says Detective Comics is boring and the other says its great. Would forms you opinion that its boring, CKD? What forms your opinion that it is great, Saintsaucy? I am curious to what forms the opposite opinions?

It's the team aspect.

Batman has pulled together a team. Batwoman is incharge of Stephanie Brown/Spoiler, Tim Drake/Red Robin, Cassie (I can't recall her last name)/Orphan(we all know she used to go by batgirl. Not sure if that was ever true in this universe though) and Clayface. Another member joins later on. Lucious Fox's son but I don't remember his identity.

Frankly this is Batman's version of the Birds of Prey with all of my favorite characters. I think the bat family got screwed the worst with new 52 and all that. Plus damien wayne can **** right the hell off.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-22-2016, 09:06 AM

Batwoman II, Red Robin, Spoiler, and Batgirl II as a team? Also,Clayface/ Basil Karlo is working with them? Why would Clayface work with the extended Batfamily? I get Tim working with Stephanie and Cassandra,but would not have penned Kathy as a leader.

*myconius* · 12-22-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Batwoman II, Red Robin, Spoiler, and Batgirl II as a team? Also,Clayface/ Basil Karlo is working with them? Why would Clayface work with the extended Batfamily? I get Tim working with Stephanie and Cassandra,but would not have penned Kathy as a leader.

all the current Batman titles as a whole are pretty poor.

ever since this relaunch the main Superman books have been far superior.
Action Comics is a bit unsteady in it's quality, but the main Superman title has been really good.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-22-2016, 09:25 AM

I went by my LCS yesterday mid afternoon and saw the DC Christmas Special there. It was $10 freaking dollars! Also, the advertised Dick Grayson/Barbara Gordon story was a mere two page extension of the Teen Titans story.

So I did not shall out 10 dollars for that.

Let me know about Underworld Olympics or or stuff you read,Myconius.

*myconius* · 12-22-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I went by my LCS yesterday mid afternoon and saw the DC Christmas Special there. It was $10 freaking dollars! Also, the advertised Dick Grayson/Barbara Gordon story was a mere two page extension of the Teen Titans story.

So I did not shall out 10 dollars for that.

Let me know about Underworld Olympics or or stuff you read,Myconius.

i don't blame you at all. $10 for a special is way too much $$$$
especially where more than half of it will be fodder.

which issues did the Underworld Olympics run through again?

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-22-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by myconius

i don't blame you at all. $10 for a special is way too much $$$$
especially where more than half of it will be fodder.

which issues did the Underworld Olympics run through again?

Batman#272-275. It was perhaps the most interesting attempt to tie into the Olympics until Mario vs Sonic came along.

If the Dick/Barbara story was say 15-17 pages I actually would have bought it but 2 pages? Why bother even advertising it? Sorry, I got my hopes up and it frustrates me because I love those two.

*myconius* · 12-22-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Batman#272-275. It was perhaps the most interesting attempt to tie into the Olympics until Mario vs Sonic came along.

If the Dick/Barbara story was say 15-17 pages I actually would have bought it but 2 pages? Why bother even advertising it? Sorry, I got my hopes up and it frustrates me because I love those two.

thank you! i'll have to check out those issues # 272-275 some time.

yeah they've been not too kind to the whole Dick and Babs relationship for a while now. i kinda gave up after a while.

and now them turning Selina Kyle into a mass murderer???
these cheap 'shock value' stunts are just getting so stupid!

*ZariusTwo* · 12-22-2016, 12:39 PM

Yeah, it makes no sense for Dick and Babs to be acting this way around one another, especially since the pair got married in Convergence...yeah they don't remember it because of Flashpoint but that does'nt excuse their behaviour after all they've ever went through. It flies in the face of DC's whole Rebirth mantra of restoring relationships, not deconstructing them. I suppose Didio still has a stick up his ass regarding his well known instruction that no Bat-Character ever be happy. Batwoman is still paying the price for that.

It gets easier if you just headcanon that Hipster Babs is'nt the real Batgirl and that the real one is a prisoner of Oz alongside Tim Drake

(that said, Oz's connection to at least Superman is revealed in March)

And now Bruce and Selina can rekindle their romance, but we know it'll be short-term because of this ridiculous crime hanging over Selina's head

*myconius* · 12-22-2016, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yeah, it makes no sense for Dick and Babs to be acting this way around one another, especially since the pair got married in Convergence...yeah they don't remember it because of Flashpoint but that does'nt excuse their behaviour after all they've ever went through. It flies in the face of DC's whole Rebirth mantra of restoring relationships, not deconstructing them. I suppose Didio still has a stick up his ass regarding his well known instruction that no Bat-Character ever be happy. Batwoman is still paying the price for that.

It gets easier if you just headcanon that Hipster Babs is'nt the real Batgirl and that the real one is a prisoner of Oz alongside Tim Drake

(that said, Oz's connection to at least Superman is revealed in March)

And now Bruce and Selina can rekindle their romance, but we know it'll be short-term because of this ridiculous crime hanging over Selina's head

these definitely aren't the same Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon that we saw in Convergence.
Pre-Flashpoint Superman & Lois coming face to face with (the now deceased) New 52 Superman & Lois is proof of that.
in the Nightwing annual Superman has even started that the Dick Grayson he knew was from a whole other universe.
and this Tim Drake is still the New 52 version that was never actually Robin, but Red Robin.

Catwoman - - ever since the New 52 started they've had absolutely NO idea what to do with her character!
now 237 counts of murder? - - - - - - the plot sickens.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-22-2016, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by myconius

these definitely aren't the same Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon that we saw in Convergence.
Pre-Flashpoint Superman & Lois coming face to face with (the now deceased) New 52 Superman & Lois is proof of that.
in the Nightwing annual Superman has even started that the Dick Grayson he knew was from a whole other universe.
and this Tim Drake is still the New 52 version that was never actually Robin, but Red Robin.

Catwoman - - ever since the New 52 started they've had absolutely NO idea what to do with her character!
now 237 counts of murder? - - - - - - the plot sickens.

I'm confused. Tim Drake is pre-Flaspoint while Dick Grayson us New 52? Barbara Gordon is unknown or pre-Flaspoint? It seems DC is mixing and matching to TPTB's liking.

Alfred and Leslie should marry and solidify as Bruce's surrogate parents. Dick Grayson marries Barbara Gordon and Bruce Wayne marries Selina Kyle. It can stoll have dark turns even if light of solid relationships are oresent. That isn't crazy is it?

*myconius* · 12-22-2016, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I'm confused. Tim Drake is pre-Flaspoint while Dick Grayson us New 52? Barbara Gordon is unknown or pre-Flaspoint? It seems DC is mixing and matching to TPTB's liking.

Alfred and Leslie should marry and solidify as Bruce's surrogate parents. Dick Grayson marries Barbara Gordon and Bruce Wayne marries Selina Kyle. It can stoll have dark turns even if light of solid relationships are oresent. That isn't crazy is it?

actually, NONE of the DC characters right now are Pre-Flashpoint

EXCEPT for the married Superman, Lois and their son Jonathan.

everyone else is still New 52.

saintsaucey · 12-22-2016, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by myconius

actually, NONE of the DC characters right now are Pre-Flashpoint

EXCEPT for the married Superman, Lois and their son Jonathan.

everyone else is still New 52.

Wally West is pre flash point. There is the new Wally West and the old wally west both exsisting in the same universe.

*myconius* · 12-22-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsaucey

Wally West is pre flash point. There is the new Wally West and the old wally west both exsisting in the same universe.

yeah. - - - - the DCU is now just one big cluster&#%@ mess!

saintsaucey · 12-22-2016, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by myconius

yeah. - - - - the DCU is now just one big cluster&#%@ mess!

It's better than marvel

12-21-2016, 08:57 AM	#702
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 20,899	Batman...King's just taking the piss now. He made Bane a wimp. Taken out with just one kick to the back from Selina? "Naked" Scarface? What? Cyborg...all over the place with characters flip-flopping and loads of double-bluffs, but damn entertaining. JL vs SS...not a bad start. Pity they spoiled the big comeback in solits. Trinity, gorgeous art, and Ivy can pack a mean punch (but she has the sense to have concern for Supes' kid) Superman...alright, poor Frankenstien though. Nice ending with the Kent family. __________________ TMNT Fan Script Discussion Thread "It Should Have Ended Here"...add your ideal ending to the Series Fauxnale wiki Add Your Story to the TMNT Fanfiction Wiki Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

12-21-2016, 09:14 AM	#704
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,134	One says Detective Comics is boring and the other says its great. Would forms you opinion that its boring, CKD? What forms your opinion that it is great, Saintsaucy? I am curious to what forms the opposite opinions? __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

12-22-2016, 09:06 AM	#708
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,134	Batwoman II, Red Robin, Spoiler, and Batgirl II as a team? Also,Clayface/ Basil Karlo is working with them? Why would Clayface work with the extended Batfamily? I get Tim working with Stephanie and Cassandra,but would not have penned Kathy as a leader. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

12-22-2016, 09:25 AM	#710
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,134	I went by my LCS yesterday mid afternoon and saw the DC Christmas Special there. It was $10 freaking dollars! Also, the advertised Dick Grayson/Barbara Gordon story was a mere two page extension of the Teen Titans story. So I did not shall out 10 dollars for that. Let me know about Underworld Olympics or or stuff you read,Myconius. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

12-22-2016, 12:39 PM	#714
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 20,899	Yeah, it makes no sense for Dick and Babs to be acting this way around one another, especially since the pair got married in Convergence...yeah they don't remember it because of Flashpoint but that does'nt excuse their behaviour after all they've ever went through. It flies in the face of DC's whole Rebirth mantra of restoring relationships, not deconstructing them. I suppose Didio still has a stick up his ass regarding his well known instruction that no Bat-Character ever be happy. Batwoman is still paying the price for that. It gets easier if you just headcanon that Hipster Babs is'nt the real Batgirl and that the real one is a prisoner of Oz alongside Tim Drake (that said, Oz's connection to at least Superman is revealed in March) And now Bruce and Selina can rekindle their romance, but we know it'll be short-term because of this ridiculous crime hanging over Selina's head __________________ TMNT Fan Script Discussion Thread "It Should Have Ended Here"...add your ideal ending to the Series Fauxnale wiki Add Your Story to the TMNT Fanfiction Wiki Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks