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Same with Krang, even though he was incompetent many times (though not to the same extent as Shredder, and far less than Bebop/Rocksteady), he and Shredder frequently talked on the same level of techno babble and were always inventing various devices that would require them to be engineering geniuses.
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It's that "900+ IQ" he talked about
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Another issue: how did the Technodrome, with Krang inside, end up on Earth, and where did it end up? Did it just pop up in the same underground caverns beneath Manhattan where it was during season 1?
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So I am to believe that Shredder had a surveyor down there, with a compass and graph paper and a yardstick and whatnot, mapping things out to make sure that everything was just right before Krang zapped himself and the Technodrome over from Dimension X? Is that right?
Nah, I don't buy it. I mean, there's other explanations, such as it was built slowly over a period of years, but frankly, they're all kinda crap. I really don't understand why people insist on trying to apply logic to a show that clearly wasn't concerned with that, and didn't want anyone watching it to be, either. You're NOT supposed to think too hard when watching the FW cartoon. I get that it's fun to toss ideas around and whatnot, but seriously. Some of these conversations are silly. Each and every one of you has already applied 1000% more thought and energy into this stuff than they did when they were writing it. Why bother? They got paid to write the stuff, are y'all getting paid to fill in the plotholes? C'mon. Not trying to be mean, just... jeez. "How'd the Technodrome get there?" "A f*cking wizard did it, same as everything." End of story.
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And it is likely that he and Shredder met after he was already on earth, since there is no indication that Shredder had access to dimensional travel prior to meeting Krang.
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I like to imagine that they met at a particularly colorful Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. They probably had the same sponsor.
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What army of soldiers did he supply Krang with? All the Foot Soldiers were made in the Technodrome and outside of Bebop and Rocksteady the gang working for him all disappeared.
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Also, if Krang was banished, why let him keep the Technodrome in the first place?
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Thats certainly an interesting way to look at it, though if one were to take the Nickelodeon crossovers as gospel, then it was Kraang Subrpime who "kicked him out", against his will.
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Now that you mention it, it is pretty funny how he was exiled and immediately said "lol fvck that, easy to get back when I have the stuff."
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I believe the Technodrome portal was damaged and broke right after the Technodrome first crashed on Earth, before Krang and Shredder met. So Shredder and Krang rebuilt it (which is why Shredder said it will open for first time).
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During most of the show The Technodrome either lacked fuel or was stuck somewhere Krang and Shredder didn't want it to be in. That's what held their plans back. If the Technodrome hadn't had such problems throughout most of the show, it would have rampaged NYC.
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The answers to ALL of this - and the question about the Technodrome's origins in the Fred Wolf cartoon - are the same exact answer: "Dude, we wrote it for 5-year olds; we knew nobody watching it was going to ask those questions, so we didn't bother coming up with answers to a question nobody was realistically going to ask." If you do the research, some of the writers of various popular cartoons of that era are on record saying more or less exactly that. It's not an indictment of any of those shows, it's simply a statement of fact: They weren't creating "high art", they NEVER expected people to still be talking about and over-analyzing these children's cartoons three or four decades later, they were creating a children's product and under an obligation to churn out dozens of scripts in as little time as humanly possible. "Don't think: WRITE" was the order of the day. That's why the shows themselves, while thoroughly entertaining, are also thoroughly inconsistent with regards to their own internal lore and logic. No, they weren't "trying to create plot holes"; but "plot holes" weren't even a THING in TV back then. The idea of ANY television show remaining internally consistent for its entire run is a relatively new, mid-1990s phenomenon; before that, most shows - even live-action ones aimed at adults, like most of the popular sitcoms of the era - were completely made up on the fly, resulting in characters' entire backstories being different, completely different personalities for the same character depending on what episode you were watching, a character having an entirely different job or even last name than the one they had two episodes previously... it was a mess. But nobody cared! You HAVE to remember that people didn't take TV so seriously a couple of decades ago, and that literally everything was being made up with no regard at all to what happened last week, or what kind of questions these inconsistencies might raise. People simply didn't watch TV back then to think, especially not kids' cartoons. The writers never came up with any explanation for the Technodrome because they quite reasonably and realistically assumed that their target audience wasn't going to care one bit. Frankly, I don't think it hurt anyone's enjoyment of the show, so they were correct. It would have been NICE to get some kind of explanation, but they were right in assuming that no explanation was ultimately necessary. What first-grade kid was gonna care? That's not reductive in any way, it's a simple matter of priority and knowing who the audience is.
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