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Final Crisis did not speak to me. I do not hate it, its just not my cup of tea. I felt it had a cheap ending when Superman just wished everything back to normal with some machine's help. There was also the pointless deaths of Martian Manhunter who came right back after a hit was put on him by a z-lister and Hawkman died only to die again a few months later in Blackest Knight. The whole reincarnation of the New Gods into hip human characters was just weird. Sure, Morrison has this flair for the weird,but that? This being a company-wide crossover big event I do not how much creative freedom Morrison was allowed. Therefore, I do not blame him for my disinterest in the mini-series itself. Infinite Crisis had a pretty good build up, while yes a money scheme with four minis leading to a fifth one. One Year Later was unnecessary, but the Infinite Crisis was a callback to the Bronze Age. My favorite period is the late 60s' to the mid 80s' so it spoke to me. The story itself was a fun ride that I looked forward to with anticipation. There was one major gripe overall. I am not pleased with how Earth-2 Superman was handled. Superboy-Prime and Alexander Luthor Jr. had been leaving their prism prison often for six months and he was oblivious. His hands were bleeding when he broke free of it which was cheapened after what his two fellow hibernation mates were up to. Also, dying due to kryptonite exposure after everything. He and Lois having a happy ending while no one else did including Earth-2 Batman (died in 1978 ) was undone. That was my one beef with the story itself. Superboy-Prime and Alexander Jr. going crazy watching events unfold before them while being homesick is fine and is a twist that works. The whole wall punching changing continuity was bullcrap, but it was not tied to the actual story of Infinite Crisis. I am a fan of Geoff John's Green Lantern work and I did enjoy his Crisis of Conscience arc in the JLA volume. Johns is overrated and pushed too much down reader's throats like Bendis was at Marvel and it makes one polarized. Its like they model what the respective company wants and its sells really well so they feed them key titles and story-lines. The same with Wolfman and Claremont in the 1980s'. They were given too much power because they had sales and had the golden seal of approval.
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i completely agree MikeandRaph87 about not being able to enjoy every singe story a writer produced.
one Morrison story in particular i was incredibly disappointed at was 'Nameless'. i had such high hopes for it, but it just didn't jive with me. and i'd re-read it a few times hoping something would connect. too many obscure references forced down the reader's throat over and over. took me right out of the story. but that's only one story of a few that i really didn't like. as far as Grant otherwise, he's one of my all time favorite comic writers. he really is responsible for getting me back into collecting comics. (CURSE YOU Morrison!) he was doing such amazing things with Batman (and then Batman & Robin) i just think he had too much on his plate at the time of 'The Return of Bruce Wayne' it began so good, but i feel the end fell flat. at least the end of his run of B&R which he was writing at the same time was excellent. plus at the same time he was also writing the 'Batman: The Return' one-shot as well as starting the Batman Incorporated series. from the solicits i really didn't expect to like Batman Inc, but after the first few issues i fell in love with it. too bad the reboot had to throw it off course. that HAD to have an effect on the remaining issue.
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Batman goes global, with Batmen around the world, having globetrotting adventures and essentially taking the very concept of the Batmen of All Nations to the logical end point if Batman ever authorized it? Sold. If anything, it annoyed the **** out of me that the Batman Inc. concept, or at least of the global Batmen, was just dropped in the New 52 era. Oh. Also. Lord Death Man.
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The biggest victims of the New 52 was Justice League International. They'd literally spent a whole year of real time building back up JLI in JL: Generation Lost, and simultaneously with Brightest Day which brought back Max Lord... and then they just poo-pooed away all of it. The best relaunch (not reboot) idea they'd ever had, and just poo-pooed it. Right at the finish line. I was beginning to loathe the year-long weekly stuff ("Trinity" was rough to get through, real rough, and it was even more maddening that right when it was over with, after I'd suffered through a year's worth of buying those comics and when Busiek had Krona becoming basically the life-force of Earth-1... like 3 months later Geoff Johns completely and knowingly ignored it when it was time to make Krona into shrimp dude to prep people for the new WB movie)... both both of those successfully piqued my interest. Then as a consolation prize in the New 52, we got the JLI series where Guy Gardner is like, "Who are you?" to Ice. pfffffft. F*** off.
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-the opening intro with Lord Death Man and Mr. Unknown -a team-up with Catwoman -the giant robotic mouse -the gag on the last page ....i was head over heals. do you mean the Leviathan Strikes double issue, or that doofy Batman Inc Special with a bunch of guest writers?
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