RIP Chadwick Boseman dead at 43

[IndigoErth]

So he did supposedly have it during the making of Black Panther, and of course other films that were not on my radar. Doing these in between treatments and surgeries. Well dang. When many would just curl up somewhere and do little except feel depressed and try to fight the illness, this guy was still rocking it on screen. That's some serious dedication... What a shame someone with that drive and talent is gone too soon.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

He was a damn good actor! I miss him already. Rest in Piece.

I would definitely recommend 21 Bridges. One of his best roles.

[Shark_Blade]

Black Panther is one of my most fav characters in the MCU. His own movie is at the top only second to Infinity War for me.

I?m absolutely devastated sure, but that?s life. I slowly learned to accept it and I?m grateful for what we got. Thank you Chadwick.

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Originally Posted by neatoman

It feels kind of wrong for me to focus on this instead of the actual tragedy that an actor who got such a big breakthrough in his career just two years ago dying so soon after, but it's just where my mind goes and it's a movie that is going to be made without him. And... It's just that... How will that move be received by the public, you know?

If they recast, it might cause backlash and be seen as disrespectful as might replacing his character with Shuri. It kind of comes across as a bit of a no win scenario. How do you make the movie without coming across as disrespectful?

Dumbeldore got recast. James Bond got recast. Superman, Batman, The Hulk, Spider-Man etc got recast. Plus Disney owns Marvel so they?re most probably not gonna let a series they invested heavily to go to waste.

The series will live on and expand. Chadwick is still part of BP history and will remain so.

And if they wanna go the Shuri route that?d be interesting too.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Dumbeldore got recast. James Bond got recast. Superman, Batman, The Hulk, Spider-Man etc got recast. Plus Disney owns Marvel so they?re most probably not gonna let a series they invested heavily to go to waste.

The series will live on and expand. Chadwick is still part of BP history and will remain so.

Most of your examples are recasts that didn't happen AFTER a shocking tragic death.

You want a better example? HEATH LEDGER.

And there was no recast, to respect the actor's memory. I'll bet you dollars to Malaysian currency we see Marvel do something similar here.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Dumbeldore got recast. James Bond got recast. Superman, Batman, The Hulk, Spider-Man etc got recast.

Half of those were fully fledged reboots

Plus Disney owns Marvel so they?re most probably not gonna let a series they invested heavily to go to waste.

T'Challa's story was pretty much told across Civil War and his own movie. They don't necessarily have to produce more of it.

And if they go the Shuri route, it'll just be another woke fiasco that won't draw s*it to flies.

[AquaParade]

They'll find a way to honor Boseman as the one and only T'Challa and it will stay that way for a while. That's what I think.

They'll be forced to get creative with the sequel, but I imagine a Princess Lea-like camoeo for Chadwick Boseman. Shuri is the popular choice, but I think M'Baku (?) could be interesting to see take the mantle.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

And if they go the Shuri route, it'll just be another woke fiasco that won't draw s*it to flies.

I don't know that much about it, but isn't it canon that she takes up the mantle at some point? I certainly wouldn't touch any such films for a few years, if not more, but that's a damn shame if something canon is rejected as this "woke" nonsense just because it's his sister and not another guy.


edit: And personally, when it comes to the idea of swapping genders for the lead of existing movie franchises, that option would be exactly how I always wish they would do it, by making the new lead a direct relative of the previous one. Intertwine it and give it a reason for existing other than "just because."

[CyberCubed]

I don't think they will recast Black Panther and they don't have to. His story is essentially over after Endgame and they can simply give him a reference/mention off-screen.

The Marvel Universe generally has an uncertain future at this point anyway with both Iron Man and Captain America (and Black Widow), done in-universe too. They'll continue working on the movies they announced but they might as well be heading toward a reboot as the actors are getting too old anyway.

Either that or just fully focus on the X-men.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Terribly shocking. And a testament to the man's work ethic.



I know, I hate to even talk about this now, but yeesh. It definitely pops into the brain. I personally hope they recast (which is something we should probably start getting ready for/used to with the other MCU characters... and already kind of have with Hulk). Plus we still need to get Black Panther and Storm hooking up, which was heavily rumored for BP 2. If they just make Shuri the Black Panther now out of the blue, with no new connective Chadwick to work with to do a proper passing of the torch thing... that's going to really suck and not be organic at all. Though I suspect Disney/Marvel might just do the Shuri route now, as an opportunity to further their... y'know, their thing. Hope not. I'm not opposed to Shuri down the line (like, Black Panther 4 or something), just not now.

Sounds Disney-logical to me.

[Shark_Blade]

About Shuri being BP for a while in the comics.

This felt similar like the time Batman ?died? in the comics and Robin/Nightwing took the mantle for a while. It?s a different Batman yes, because Dick Grayson is a different character compared to Bruce Wayne. It didn?t last long and Bruce is the Batman that the public knows and relates to compared to Dick.

So even if they go the Shuri route, I don?t feel like they?ll have Shuri as the Black Panther for the long run. Because the public relates with Tchalla the most as Black Panther comicwise/moviewise. So a recast is very likely imo.

But also maybe if they decide Tchalla’s story is truly finished like Cubed said, they will stick with Shuri as BP after all. Kinda like how Captain America retired and passed his shield to Falcon. Anything is possible it seems.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I don't know that much about it, but isn't it canon that she takes up the mantle at some point? I certainly wouldn't touch any such films for a few years, if not more, but that's a damn shame if something canon is rejected as this "woke" nonsense just because it's his sister and not another guy.

Not too familiar with the Panther comics, but if her turn as the Panther came at the same time as Lady Thor, Iron Heart, Sam as Captain America etc, then it absolutely is drawn from an unsuccesful 'woke' phase of the comics wing of Marvel that saw DC kick their ass for over a year

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Not too familiar with the Panther comics, but if her turn as the Panther came at the same time as Lady Thor, Iron Heart, Sam as Captain America etc, then it absolutely is drawn from an unsuccesful 'woke' phase of the comics wing of Marvel that saw DC kick their ass for over a year

See the thing about this is that there has been diversity placement for decades before the damn millenials formulated their awful opinions.

John Stewart as Green Lantern. Rhodey as Iron Man. Many more great examples, but they weren't laced with the vitriol and sort of phony triumph that was projected during the woke zeitgeist. I mean, Netflix crapped out a show called "Dear White People" within months of this nonsense.

Thank God the pendulum is finally starting to swing back to a functioning reality. It's not over yet though, so some more companies are going to have to lose billions so that they understand that virtue signaling is psychopathy.

But to be clear - I didn't like the positioning that the Black Panther movie marketing took and I thought the bad guys motivation was forced and done amdist a movie where you could see the green screen effects in every shot. But that has nothing to do with Boseman who played a great, likeable role while still retaining that "I'm King ****" attitude without being overboard. He was honestly masterful in that part.

[Vicky82]

I was shocked to hear this when I woke up this morning.

RIP Chadwick

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I mean, Netflix crapped out a show called "Dear White People" within months of this nonsense.

Like two days after the rio-.... errrrrrr, "peaceful protests" started a few weeks ago, my local Walmart had an entire wall of DVDs with a very conspicuous theme: "Dear White People", "Malcolm X", "Get Out", "I Am Not Your Negro", etc. etc. Some of these hadn't been on display in their DVD section for quite a long time, months at the least if not years for some of them. Suddenly there's an entire wall of them on very prominent display.

There was not a label or sticker on the display, but I think the message was clear regardless.

"Interesting times" indeed.
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Anyways yeah sucks the guy died so young, must've been a bitch to work through all'a that sh*t. Cancer sucks.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Damn. That is really hard news to hear. Had no idea about the cancer, so this is especially tragic. RIP Chadwick.

As for BP, I recall there was a brief stint in the comics after T'challa married Storm where SHE took the mantle, or at least underwent the Panther totem god's ritual of judgement to determine if she was worthy to be the BP if anything happened to him. It's been a long time, though, so I don't recall all the details of the arc. But I have a few of the issues from that time, including one where her role as queen and heir to the mantle was discussed. So they might actually go that route, if she was rumored to be in the movie. It might be an interesting take.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

So he did supposedly have it during the making of Black Panther, and of course other films that were not on my radar.

I can't believe he had the physique he had during that, all things considered.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I can't believe he had the physique he had during that, all things considered.

I can only speculate, and I'm not trying to cast any aspersions upon anyone who's not here to defend themselves, but knowing what I do of "the biz" combined with his unique situation...

Well, let's put it this way. If the prognosis isn't good and you've only got one shot to make a good impression, might as well let them shoot you up with as much gas and whatever else as you'll hold. What's it gonna hurt at that point?

I mean, I don't *know* that, I just know that doing a cycle is pretty much mandatory for anyone doing a super-hero movie anyway. And I know that if you know you're on borrowed time AND it's hard enough because of your illness to even work out at all, well... a guy in that position could've been "stacking" pretty hard. I ain't mad at him, I'm just saying, that's probably how he got the look, given the circumstances.

Although the actual working out part must've been murder, "supplement" regiment or no. So yeah, pretty impressive regardless.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I can only speculate, and I'm not trying to cast any aspersions upon anyone who's not here to defend themselves, but knowing what I do of "the biz" combined with his unique situation...

Well, let's put it this way. If the prognosis isn't good and you've only got one shot to make a good impression, might as well let them shoot you up with as much gas and whatever else as you'll hold. What's it gonna hurt at that point?

I mean, I don't *know* that, I just know that doing a cycle is pretty much mandatory for anyone doing a super-hero movie anyway. And I know that if you know you're on borrowed time AND it's hard enough because of your illness to even work out at all, well... a guy in that position could've been "stacking" pretty hard. I ain't mad at him, I'm just saying, that's probably how he got the look, given the circumstances.

Although the actual working out part must've been murder, "supplement" regiment or no. So yeah, pretty impressive regardless.

Ya. Yup, very possible. I mean I don't want to take anything away from the guy, but if we are talking about this like math? Yeah.

[oldmanwinters]

For what it's worth, Marvel has made every stand-alone Black Panther digital comic free for permanent retention on Comixology for the present time. Go get 'em all!
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/comixo...omics-for-free

[Cordial Bird]

It's a huge blow. I feel for his family. I'm still shocked that it happened. Hearing that he got buried recently feels so unreal.