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LogicDonny
03-06-2007, 12:17 AM
Ok the movie comes out and the box office sales doesnt' do well but the dvd/hd/blu ray or psp or whatever it is released on after does relaly really well, will they still do a sequal or not?

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
03-06-2007, 12:25 AM
Probably. At least WB will be making a profit.

Kendamu
03-06-2007, 12:29 AM
If Batman Begins can be successful without the Joker and if Superman Returns can get a sequel after WB lost money on it I'm sure TMNT will get a sequel.

poobone
03-06-2007, 01:44 AM
If Batman Begins can be successful without the Joker and if Superman Returns can get a sequel after WB lost money on it I'm sure TMNT will get a sequel.

wait, is that true? I thought they said the movie had to raise 100 million to get a sequel? Was I misinformed?

man I hope it does well. The more TMNT the better.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
03-06-2007, 02:01 AM
If Batman Begins can be successful without the Joker and if Superman Returns can get a sequel after WB lost money on it I'm sure TMNT will get a sequel.

Yeah, after Superman's underwelming preformance, I don't think TMNT has to worry. Even if this doesn't make the 100 mil, WB wouldn't lose half as much as they did with Superman.

poobone
03-06-2007, 02:37 AM
lost money? but surely this film didn't cost 100 million to make, did it?

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
03-06-2007, 02:41 AM
lost money? but surely this film didn't cost 100 million to make, did it?

God no. I seriously doubt that, I don't think any studio would have done this movie if it cost 100 mil to make.

Though I have been thinking. When they said 100 mil, did they mean purely b.o., or does that also include merchindising?

poobone
03-06-2007, 04:44 AM
God no. I seriously doubt that, I don't think any studio would have done this movie if it cost 100 mil to make.

Though I have been thinking. When they said 100 mil, did they mean purely b.o., or does that also include merchindising?

both i hope.

Rooish
03-06-2007, 07:31 AM
They meant box office. Domestic.

Lone Wolf
03-06-2007, 06:45 PM
Sorry I must have missed something. Where was it said, and by who, that TMNT needed to make 100 mil domestic to get a sequel?

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
03-06-2007, 06:58 PM
Sorry I must have missed something. Where was it said, and by who, that TMNT needed to make 100 mil domestic to get a sequel?

Kevin said it. In the Front Lines thread.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt
03-06-2007, 09:20 PM
If the DVD does extremely well then maybe we'll see a direct-to-dvd sequel type of situation (like Hollow Man 2, The Incredible Hulk a.k.a. Hulk 2 coming straight to dvd, etc.). Like I heard that "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" did $30 million on theaters and $35 million on DVD...lol yep it made more money on DVD than in theaters...so maybe it'll happen with TMNT as well.

And for my own two cents on box office...it'll never make $100 million. I don't mean to be disrespectful to anybody...and I know this is about "IF". My reasons for this is that the weekend alone, March 23, you have:
Reign Over Me: Adam Sandler does big business, look at Click, the longest yard, 50 dates...all did over $100 million.
A new Pixar Film....again lol they usual do good business, and this will split the kids crowd.
Two new horror films (Dead Silence and Hills have Eyes 2)....that'll split the adults/teens crowd.
Plus the second week of 300...which truthfully has been getting a lot more buzz than TMNT.
Sorry to be such a ninny...but $100 million groos? Never happen. The studio are just releasing it at a wrong time...it's too busy a calendar/weekend.

Again I know this is about "IF" and about the DVD sales. Hopefully those who didn't catch it in theaters will gobble this up on DVD...I mean if we can get Children of the Corn 666 or Leprechaun in the HOOD....why not a TMNT 2 (although maybe just be done with animation/cheaper...but better than nothing).

Roseangelo
03-06-2007, 09:53 PM
There isn't a new Pixar film on the 23rd. There is a new Disney, NON-Pixar, CGI movie on the 30th.

300 will be in its 3rd week. This will obviously be big business, but I dunno what kind of lasting power it'll have. It has big geek support, but I don't know how it'll be received by the mainstream. I honestly can't bring myself to have any interest in it.

I personally am optimistic for at least $100 million.

raphaelprime
03-06-2007, 10:33 PM
Only thing im worried about is Shooter, reguardless of it being rated R, other than that im sure TMNT will be #1 come Monday the 26th. Because i've seen the Shooter commercial more than i have TMNT, plus they had some sort of promotion thing on XboxLive with free Shooter themes and pics.

But whether or not it makes it's $100 mil domestic, im sure theres still going to be a huge possibility for a sequel. as was mentioned above, if Superman Returns can get a sequel then TMNT shouldn't have much to worry about.


I also did forget about the Sandler movie, but, it looks more geared toward the Oscar people, and we all know how those types actually do at the box office, reguardless of whose in it. And Hills Have Eyes 2? HHE1 only got 15 mil in its first weekend.

Krutch
03-06-2007, 10:47 PM
I think people have a general misconception about Superman Returns. It didn't cost 270 mil to make, it was only 220 mil. And the other 50 of that was because of all the rewrites in the past years. It brought in about 390 million worldwide. So making a 120 million dollar profit is a "bomb" these days? It may not have made what the companies hoped for, but it did very well regardless.

poobone
03-06-2007, 10:50 PM
can someone show me the exact post where kevin says 100 mil? I can't find it. :cry:

Masked Ninja
03-06-2007, 10:50 PM
It all depends on word of mouth. If this does turn out to be truly awesome, word will spread and more people will come. I'm just worried about the people who think the movie is "ruining" their childhood vision of TMNT. Most people who've mentioned it around me seem to be looking forward to it, though.

I'm not concerned about a sequel yet. And it's not quite like hitting $100m is going to automatically punch the "sequel" button. I'm going to think about the movie that's coming out on the 23rd first and foremost. ;)

poobone
03-06-2007, 10:52 PM
but still, moreso than worrying about the sequel, I just want the franchise to be successful. Lots of people I know are excited about it, but how many will actually go see it? the good thing about a kids movie however is: every kid that goes to see it sells two tickets. one for them and one for mommy or daddy.

My fiance and I are taking her 6-year old brother to see it.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
03-07-2007, 12:20 AM
It all depends on word of mouth. If this does turn out to be truly awesome, word will spread and more people will come. I'm just worried about the people who think the movie is "ruining" their childhood vision of TMNT. Most people who've mentioned it around me seem to be looking forward to it, though.

I'm not concerned about a sequel yet. And it's not quite like hitting $100m is going to automatically punch the "sequel" button. I'm going to think about the movie that's coming out on the 23rd first and foremost. ;)

Yeah, thats most of the douches at the IMDB boards. Some of these guys find any excuse they can not to like this movie.

It's CGI, no Krang, no Shredder, the titles an acronym, why isn't April naked? :| , Peter Laird is a douche for not getting down on his hands and knees wroshiping the old series, it's gonna be kiddie.

I've heard it all.

Cascadia
03-07-2007, 01:45 AM
I have said it once.....I will say it again. I do not like to put the carriage before the horse or count all of your eggs before they hatch. Let's see how the movie does before we even think about a sequel.

Cascadia
03-07-2007, 01:46 AM
I have said it once.....I will say it again. I do not like to put the carriage before the horse or count all of your eggs before they hatch. Let's see how the movie does before we even think about a sequel.

TheShowstoppa
03-07-2007, 02:07 AM
I asked Kevin in the Front Lines thread if it would just be domestic box office or if DVD sales/rentals mattered too. He told me that right now, as far as he knows that it'll be only box office numbers that matter. However, Punisher did HORRIBLY in the box office and sold excellently on DVD pushing the company to warrant a sequel. However, the sequel's been in limbo for YEARS

invictus1002
03-07-2007, 09:04 AM
everyone do their part and go see the movie. dont bootleg it! and if you do.... see it first, bootleg it, then buy the DVD. turtles deserve respect and our money. they were a big part of a lot of our childhoods so the least you could do is go see the damn movie once or twice.
DO YOUR DAMN PART!!

CyberCubed
03-07-2007, 11:14 AM
If you want to help sales of the movie, go with lots of friends or family members when you go to see it on or around the 23rd. The more people you go with, the more tickets will be bought.