hypotechical question about box office sales..

~~LogicDonny~~ · 03-06-2007, 12:17 AM

Ok the movie comes out and the box office sales doesnt' do well but the dvd/hd/blu ray or psp or whatever it is released on after does relaly really well, will they still do a sequal or not?

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 03-06-2007, 12:25 AM

Probably. At least WB will be making a profit.

*Kendamu* · 03-06-2007, 12:29 AM

If Batman Begins can be successful without the Joker and if Superman Returns can get a sequel after WB lost money on it I'm sure TMNT will get a sequel.

poobone · 03-06-2007, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

If Batman Begins can be successful without the Joker and if Superman Returns can get a sequel after WB lost money on it I'm sure TMNT will get a sequel.

wait, is that true? I thought they said the movie had to raise 100 million to get a sequel? Was I misinformed?

man I hope it does well. The more TMNT the better.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 03-06-2007, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

If Batman Begins can be successful without the Joker and if Superman Returns can get a sequel after WB lost money on it I'm sure TMNT will get a sequel.

Yeah, after Superman's underwelming preformance, I don't think TMNT has to worry. Even if this doesn't make the 100 mil, WB wouldn't lose half as much as they did with Superman.

poobone · 03-06-2007, 02:37 AM

lost money? but surely this film didn't cost 100 million to make, did it?

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 03-06-2007, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by poobone

lost money? but surely this film didn't cost 100 million to make, did it?

God no. I seriously doubt that, I don't think any studio would have done this movie if it cost 100 mil to make.

Though I have been thinking. When they said 100 mil, did they mean purely b.o., or does that also include merchindising?

poobone · 03-06-2007, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

God no. I seriously doubt that, I don't think any studio would have done this movie if it cost 100 mil to make.

Though I have been thinking. When they said 100 mil, did they mean purely b.o., or does that also include merchindising?

both i hope.

*Rooish* · 03-06-2007, 07:31 AM

They meant box office. Domestic.

Lone Wolf · 03-06-2007, 06:45 PM

Sorry I must have missed something. Where was it said, and by who, that TMNT needed to make 100 mil domestic to get a sequel?

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 03-06-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lone Wolf

Sorry I must have missed something. Where was it said, and by who, that TMNT needed to make 100 mil domestic to get a sequel?

Kevin said it. In the Front Lines thread.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 03-06-2007, 09:20 PM

If the DVD does extremely well then maybe we'll see a direct-to-dvd sequel type of situation (like Hollow Man 2, The Incredible Hulk a.k.a. Hulk 2 coming straight to dvd, etc.). Like I heard that "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" did $30 million on theaters and $35 million on DVD...lol yep it made more money on DVD than in theaters...so maybe it'll happen with TMNT as well.

And for my own two cents on box office...it'll never make $100 million. I don't mean to be disrespectful to anybody...and I know this is about "IF". My reasons for this is that the weekend alone, March 23, you have:
Reign Over Me: Adam Sandler does big business, look at Click, the longest yard, 50 dates...all did over $100 million.
A new Pixar Film....again lol they usual do good business, and this will split the kids crowd.
Two new horror films (Dead Silence and Hills have Eyes 2)....that'll split the adults/teens crowd.
Plus the second week of 300...which truthfully has been getting a lot more buzz than TMNT.
Sorry to be such a ninny...but $100 million groos? Never happen. The studio are just releasing it at a wrong time...it's too busy a calendar/weekend.

Again I know this is about "IF" and about the DVD sales. Hopefully those who didn't catch it in theaters will gobble this up on DVD...I mean if we can get Children of the Corn 666 or Leprechaun in the HOOD....why not a TMNT 2 (although maybe just be done with animation/cheaper...but better than nothing).

*Roseangelo* · 03-06-2007, 09:53 PM

There isn't a new Pixar film on the 23rd. There is a new Disney, NON-Pixar, CGI movie on the 30th.

300 will be in its 3rd week. This will obviously be big business, but I dunno what kind of lasting power it'll have. It has big geek support, but I don't know how it'll be received by the mainstream. I honestly can't bring myself to have any interest in it.

I personally am optimistic for at least $100 million.

raphaelprime · 03-06-2007, 10:33 PM

Only thing im worried about is Shooter, reguardless of it being rated R, other than that im sure TMNT will be #1 come Monday the 26th. Because i've seen the Shooter commercial more than i have TMNT, plus they had some sort of promotion thing on XboxLive with free Shooter themes and pics.

But whether or not it makes it's $100 mil domestic, im sure theres still going to be a huge possibility for a sequel. as was mentioned above, if Superman Returns can get a sequel then TMNT shouldn't have much to worry about.

I also did forget about the Sandler movie, but, it looks more geared toward the Oscar people, and we all know how those types actually do at the box office, reguardless of whose in it. And Hills Have Eyes 2? HHE1 only got 15 mil in its first weekend.

*Krutch* · 03-06-2007, 10:47 PM

I think people have a general misconception about Superman Returns. It didn't cost 270 mil to make, it was only 220 mil. And the other 50 of that was because of all the rewrites in the past years. It brought in about 390 million worldwide. So making a 120 million dollar profit is a "bomb" these days? It may not have made what the companies hoped for, but it did very well regardless.

poobone · 03-06-2007, 10:50 PM

can someone show me the exact post where kevin says 100 mil? I can't find it.

*Masked Ninja* · 03-06-2007, 10:50 PM

It all depends on word of mouth. If this does turn out to be truly awesome, word will spread and more people will come. I'm just worried about the people who think the movie is "ruining" their childhood vision of TMNT. Most people who've mentioned it around me seem to be looking forward to it, though.

I'm not concerned about a sequel yet. And it's not quite like hitting $100m is going to automatically punch the "sequel" button. I'm going to think about the movie that's coming out on the 23rd first and foremost.

poobone · 03-06-2007, 10:52 PM

but still, moreso than worrying about the sequel, I just want the franchise to be successful. Lots of people I know are excited about it, but how many will actually go see it? the good thing about a kids movie however is: every kid that goes to see it sells two tickets. one for them and one for mommy or daddy.

My fiance and I are taking her 6-year old brother to see it.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 03-07-2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja

It all depends on word of mouth. If this does turn out to be truly awesome, word will spread and more people will come. I'm just worried about the people who think the movie is "ruining" their childhood vision of TMNT. Most people who've mentioned it around me seem to be looking forward to it, though.

I'm not concerned about a sequel yet. And it's not quite like hitting $100m is going to automatically punch the "sequel" button. I'm going to think about the movie that's coming out on the 23rd first and foremost.

Yeah, thats most of the douches at the IMDB boards. Some of these guys find any excuse they can not to like this movie.

It's CGI, no Krang, no Shredder, the titles an acronym, why isn't April naked?

, Peter Laird is a douche for not getting down on his hands and knees wroshiping the old series, it's gonna be kiddie.

I've heard it all.

*Cascadia* · 03-07-2007, 01:45 AM

I have said it once.....I will say it again. I do not like to put the carriage before the horse or count all of your eggs before they hatch. Let's see how the movie does before we even think about a sequel.

03-06-2007, 07:31 AM	#9
Rooish Devil's Advocate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,130	They meant box office. Domestic. __________________ Thanks evan2000 for the sig!

03-06-2007, 06:45 PM	#10
Lone Wolf Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 160	Sorry I must have missed something. Where was it said, and by who, that TMNT needed to make 100 mil domestic to get a sequel? __________________ "You may destroy me... but I will not live in fear!"

03-06-2007, 09:53 PM	#13
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,107	There isn't a new Pixar film on the 23rd. There is a new Disney, NON-Pixar, CGI movie on the 30th. 300 will be in its 3rd week. This will obviously be big business, but I dunno what kind of lasting power it'll have. It has big geek support, but I don't know how it'll be received by the mainstream. I honestly can't bring myself to have any interest in it. I personally am optimistic for at least $100 million. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

03-06-2007, 10:33 PM	#14
raphaelprime Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Caniac Nation, NC Posts: 416	Only thing im worried about is Shooter, reguardless of it being rated R, other than that im sure TMNT will be #1 come Monday the 26th. Because i've seen the Shooter commercial more than i have TMNT, plus they had some sort of promotion thing on XboxLive with free Shooter themes and pics. But whether or not it makes it's $100 mil domestic, im sure theres still going to be a huge possibility for a sequel. as was mentioned above, if Superman Returns can get a sequel then TMNT shouldn't have much to worry about. I also did forget about the Sandler movie, but, it looks more geared toward the Oscar people, and we all know how those types actually do at the box office, reguardless of whose in it. And Hills Have Eyes 2? HHE1 only got 15 mil in its first weekend. __________________ "Welcome to the south, plan to lose in our house, GoCanes, Carolina is back, and we're all Caniacs, GoCanes, We want more, shutout score, let's go Ward, GoCanes"....the new and improved version of Clapton's classic Cocaine Courtesy of Sliced...Thanks Sliced. Last edited by raphaelprime; 03-06-2007 at 10:41 PM.

03-07-2007, 01:45 AM	#20
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	I have said it once.....I will say it again. I do not like to put the carriage before the horse or count all of your eggs before they hatch. Let's see how the movie does before we even think about a sequel. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

03-06-2007, 12:17 AM	#1
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	hypotechical question about box office sales.. Ok the movie comes out and the box office sales doesnt' do well but the dvd/hd/blu ray or psp or whatever it is released on after does relaly really well, will they still do a sequal or not?

03-06-2007, 12:25 AM	#2
~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Seventh Layer of Hell Posts: 1,929	Probably. At least WB will be making a profit.

03-06-2007, 12:29 AM	#3
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	If Batman Begins can be successful without the Joker and if Superman Returns can get a sequel after WB lost money on it I'm sure TMNT will get a sequel.

03-06-2007, 02:37 AM	#6
poobone Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 143	lost money? but surely this film didn't cost 100 million to make, did it?

03-06-2007, 09:20 PM	#12
Ramboraph4life aka Matt Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Liberty, Iowa Posts: 1,233	If the DVD does extremely well then maybe we'll see a direct-to-dvd sequel type of situation (like Hollow Man 2, The Incredible Hulk a.k.a. Hulk 2 coming straight to dvd, etc.). Like I heard that "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" did $30 million on theaters and $35 million on DVD...lol yep it made more money on DVD than in theaters...so maybe it'll happen with TMNT as well. And for my own two cents on box office...it'll never make $100 million. I don't mean to be disrespectful to anybody...and I know this is about "IF". My reasons for this is that the weekend alone, March 23, you have: Reign Over Me: Adam Sandler does big business, look at Click, the longest yard, 50 dates...all did over $100 million. A new Pixar Film....again lol they usual do good business, and this will split the kids crowd. Two new horror films (Dead Silence and Hills have Eyes 2)....that'll split the adults/teens crowd. Plus the second week of 300...which truthfully has been getting a lot more buzz than TMNT. Sorry to be such a ninny...but $100 million groos? Never happen. The studio are just releasing it at a wrong time...it's too busy a calendar/weekend. Again I know this is about "IF" and about the DVD sales. Hopefully those who didn't catch it in theaters will gobble this up on DVD...I mean if we can get Children of the Corn 666 or Leprechaun in the HOOD....why not a TMNT 2 (although maybe just be done with animation/cheaper...but better than nothing).

03-06-2007, 10:47 PM	#15
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	I think people have a general misconception about Superman Returns. It didn't cost 270 mil to make, it was only 220 mil. And the other 50 of that was because of all the rewrites in the past years. It brought in about 390 million worldwide. So making a 120 million dollar profit is a "bomb" these days? It may not have made what the companies hoped for, but it did very well regardless.

03-06-2007, 10:50 PM	#16
poobone Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 143	can someone show me the exact post where kevin says 100 mil? I can't find it.

03-06-2007, 10:50 PM	#17
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	It all depends on word of mouth. If this does turn out to be truly awesome, word will spread and more people will come. I'm just worried about the people who think the movie is "ruining" their childhood vision of TMNT. Most people who've mentioned it around me seem to be looking forward to it, though. I'm not concerned about a sequel yet. And it's not quite like hitting $100m is going to automatically punch the "sequel" button. I'm going to think about the movie that's coming out on the 23rd first and foremost.

03-06-2007, 10:52 PM	#18
poobone Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 143	but still, moreso than worrying about the sequel, I just want the franchise to be successful. Lots of people I know are excited about it, but how many will actually go see it? the good thing about a kids movie however is: every kid that goes to see it sells two tickets. one for them and one for mommy or daddy. My fiance and I are taking her 6-year old brother to see it.