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oldshreddersgirl
03-10-2007, 10:13 PM
Ok now i know i have not watched this show in a while when did the shredder have a daughter and with who? which women in her right mind would have a child with that looney?( love him though lol)yeah and the turtles have not changed much they are still as cute and funny as ever also, who is splinters new little pig friend. man i cant believe how long its been

triplexxx
03-10-2007, 10:34 PM
Shredder adopted Karai after her parents abandoned her. What pig friend are you referring to?

oldshreddersgirl
03-10-2007, 10:51 PM
Shredder adopted Karai after her parents abandoned her. What pig friend are you referring to?

yeah he's the other sensi? teacher? he's short, he looks like a little piglet he makes cracks at the turtles i don't remember his name. wow i wonder what made shredder want to adopt a child?

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
03-10-2007, 10:53 PM
Actually. Her name would be Oroku Kari.

Oroku is the family name, Saki is the given. In Japanese culture the given name is said after the family name.

triplexxx
03-10-2007, 11:21 PM
yeah he's the other sensi? teacher? he's short, he looks like a little piglet he makes cracks at the turtles i don't remember his name. wow i wonder what made shredder want to adopt a child?
The answer to the first question: The Ancient One, Master Splinter's Master Yoshi's sensei, which would make him like a great grandfather to the turtles.
The answer to the second question: no idea

oldshreddersgirl
03-10-2007, 11:50 PM
The answer to the first question: The Ancient One, Master Splinter's Master Yoshi's sensei, which would make him like a great grandfather to the turtles.
The answer to the second question: no idea

yeah i also wanted to know when saki was a business man did they age him? the reason i am asking is because he looks older it also looks like they aged splinter to is that what happened? if so then thats cool because cartoon characters are usually never aged

ZariusTwo
03-11-2007, 12:03 AM
Shredder adopted Karai because she was an orphan, he had a heart, that's pretty much it. Shades of Grey exist in all characters, Turtle, freind, foe, noone is entirely good nor evil.

Heck back almost every animated villain had a son or daughter, legit, adopted, or otherwise.

oldshreddersgirl
03-11-2007, 12:09 AM
Shredder adopted Karai because she was an orphan, he had a heart, that's pretty much it. Shades of Grey exist in all characters, Turtle, freind, foe, noone is entirely good nor evil.

Heck back almost every animated villain had a son or daughter, legit, adopted, or otherwise.

Well he could not have had that much of a heart because he wanted her dead after a while

triplexxx
03-11-2007, 01:40 AM
Well he could not have had that much of a heart because he wanted her dead after a while
Well its not that he actually wanted her dead. It's just that he doesn't tolerate failure. Though it does seem when in "Exodus" she told him near the end to not kill Splinter and the turtles, he came close to killing her for getting in his way. And maybe he didn't adopt her out of total kindness, he just figured that since she was a young, impressionable orphan and had no one to guide her in the right direction in life that he could convince her to be on his side and that his side was the good side.
So you're right: it's not that Shredder had a heart, but just that he was resourceful.

oldshreddersgirl
03-11-2007, 01:48 AM
Well its not that he actually wanted her dead. It's just that he doesn't tolerate failure. Though it does seem when in "Exodus" she told him near the end to not kill Splinter and the turtles, he came close to killing her for getting in his way. And maybe he didn't adopt her out of total kindness, he just figured that since she was a young, impressionable orphan and had no one to guide her in the right direction in life that he could convince her to be on his side and that his side was the good side.
So you're right: it's not that Shredder had a heart, but just that he was resourceful.

Yeah this shredder is truely evil. i remember when i was watching one of the newer episodes with my nephew and i saw the new shredder and i said to him thats not the shredder thats a robot. my nephew looks at me like i am an idiot and says man you remember shredder when he was human? damn your old! I wanted to scream and of course kill him at the same time!

Spawn Guy
03-11-2007, 07:55 AM
In the comics Kari had nothing to do with Saki apart from being members of the foot clan. Image gave him a daughter called Pikimo or something.

phillytmnt
03-11-2007, 09:48 AM
yo stephen, do u got the lost season cause that pic gotta come from that. If so can u please hook me up with spoilers about that pic?It got me curious

Vegita-San
03-11-2007, 10:06 AM
Actually. Her name would be Oroku Kari.

Oroku is the family name, Saki is the given. In Japanese culture the given name is said after the family name.

I always found that confusing. Just like how they read from right to left... for instance, Ray Stantz name would be Stantz Ray in Japan.

I guess they wheren't insulting him by calling him Saki all this time in the shows history :). That really IS his first name. Has Pete ever confirmed that?

Sewer Bull
03-11-2007, 10:33 AM
I always found that confusing. Just like how they read from right to left... for instance, Ray Stantz name would be Stantz Ray in Japan.

I guess they wheren't insulting him by calling him Saki all this time in the shows history :). That really IS his first name. Has Pete ever confirmed that?

Given that Oroku Saki's brother was called Oroku Nagi in Mirage #1 - I guess it's confirmed that Saki is Shredder's first name.

oldshreddersgirl
03-11-2007, 06:13 PM
yeah so i guess they aged him then? must have he looks about 40 in this picture

Spawn Guy
03-11-2007, 06:19 PM
Utrom Saki? Don't think so. That's "The Origonal Shredder"...the all powerful demon one, who was locked away in a coffin for centuries and was apparently imortal anyway.

oldshreddersgirl
03-11-2007, 06:44 PM
k k kk i am confused now. the utrom shredder is the one seen in stepens photo and he is imortal right?

Anarchistguy
03-11-2007, 07:06 PM
k k kk i am confused now. the utrom shredder is the one seen in stepens photo and he is imortal right?

Nope. The Shredder in Stephen's pic is the REAL Oroku Saki. The TENGU Shredder. Not the Utrom one.

Masked Ninja
03-11-2007, 07:35 PM
Ugh, I can't wait until the US gets the lost season, so I can stop being spoiled in unexpected places. 8|

Anarchistguy
03-11-2007, 07:45 PM
I...I'm sorry. I didn't mean to spoil you...:(