Leatherhead

[Death's Head]

Is he an alligator or a crocodile?

[triplexxx]

Crocodile.

[Ballerninja]

He's only a croc in the 2k3 series, I think. He was an alligator in the original series, and in mirage comics.

[raphaelprime]

I think he's an Alligator in every adaptation. Only thing about the 2k3 series is that the episode was called 'What a croc' cause i dont think 'what a gator' would have sounded as good, so they just called him a croc. But most(if not all) of the drawings and animations i've seen of him, he's been drawn as an alligator cause gators have wider snouts and slightly shorter, whereas crocs are long and slim.

[Revan]

Since we all know wiki is 100% credible. :roll: you could check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherhead_%28TMNT%29
according to wiki

Mirage = Alligator
Image = Croc
87 OT = Alligator
Archie comics = started out as a human
2k3 = Croc

[Drtooth]

Someone, oh someon, who's an expert on all things reptillian please tell us the difference between Croc and gator.

All I know is in spanish, they only have one word, "Cocodrillo"

Much less confusing. UT!

[ninjitsu_magic_47]

I love Leatherhead. Doesn't matter to me whether or not he's a croc or not. There aren't enough shows on him...

[odupianist]

I was quite surprised he was not in the final battle against the tengu Shredder.

[ninjitsu_magic_47]

Yeah, that sorta bugged me. He lives in New York too, he would have helped somehow. :evil:

[Sanjuro]

Crocodile. The difference between the two are very small. Main noticable difference is Crocodiles front teeth show when their mouth is closed.

[TMNTserbia]

Serbian translation:
Lederhed,aligator močvara Floride.

[ninjitsu_magic_47]

Maybe he's a croc/gator cross? :D :lol: :P

[Ava Collier]

Now I remember! I was searching for the answer to this question myself, that's how I found these forums. I do think it would depend on his origins. I really think the 2k3 version is a crocodile, but it would make more sense in the 80's version if he was an alligator...since they have those in Florida. ^_^

[ToTheNines]

I always hated Leatherheads name... its like, real dumb. Anyone else share this thought?

[SLASH!!!]

Since we all know wiki is 100% credible. :roll: you could check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherhead_%28TMNT%29
according to wiki

Mirage = Alligator
Image = Croc
87 OT = Alligator
Archie comics = started out as a human
2k3 = Croc

I remember in Image Leo refering to LH as a gator. I'll have to check.

[ninjitsu_magic_47]

I like Leatherheads name.

[Revan]

I remember in Image Leo refering to LH as a gator. I'll have to check.

Keep in mind that's just wiki. And even if Leo did call him a gator, that really doesn't make him one.

[odupianist]

I think Leo also referred to him as a gator in the 2k3 series too, in the episode "Hunted"

[Ra]

I'm sure that Leatherhead is primarily an alligator in all of his carnations. I used to think in the 2k3 incarnation he is a saltwater crocodile due to his personality. He, like other crocs, was pretty calm, but when angered, extremely deadly and vicious. Then I decided to do a little research into crocs and alligators and saw that he is, indeed, an alligator in the 2k3 incarnation. Here's a picture compairing a crocodile and alligator snout from a bird's eye view (Sorry, the picture will only show up as a link for some reason).
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=91307&rendTypeId=4

Note how the alligator has a wider snout. Salt water crocodiles have a similar build, but it curves in like the crocodile snout in the picture above. Then you look at some of the screen grabs from the show and you can really tell that they are similar (I'll just post a link to the grabs on ninjaturtles.com. I'm too tired to make images appear out of nowhere right now...)
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/2003/synopses/38.html

[teletran]

According to wikipedia the term crocodile can be used to refer to any member of the crocodile family, given this I’d say it's more likely that he's an alligator who is sometimes called a crocodile.

[Mike Bock]

Someone, oh someon, who's an expert on all things reptillian please tell us the difference between Croc and gator.

All I know is in spanish, they only have one word, "Cocodrillo"

Much less confusing. UT!

No there is also "Lagarto" which means alligator

While " Cocodrilo" means Crocodile. ;)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I've always liked Letherhead and the old style at that, with his mad southern accent. He's an alligator because he grown up in the Florida swamps, crocodiles come from africa.

[Revan]

I've always liked Letherhead and the old style at that, with his mad southern accent. He's an alligator because he grown up in the Florida swamps, crocodiles come from africa.

I can't stand OT Leatherhead. Always talking about fricken gumbo in an annoying southern accent.

2k3 got it right with Leatherhead. He is so much more involved and important.

[VaughnMichael]

I can't stand OT Leatherhead. Always talking about fricken gumbo in an annoying southern accent.

2k3 got it right with Leatherhead. He is so much more involved and important.
So involved that he wasn't included in the lost season....:roll:

[Revan]

So involved that he wasn't included in the lost season....:roll:

That went threw my head while I was typing that word. I typed it, deleted it (thinking someone would call me on it) and then re-typed it.

Anyway, yeah that didn't make much sense to me. They could have used him, where the heck was he? He is still in NY during TLS right? So whats the deal?

[VaughnMichael]

That went threw my head while I was typing that word. I typed it, deleted it (thinking someone would call me on it) and then re-typed it.

Anyway, yeah that didn't make much sense to me. They could have used him, where the heck was he? He is still in NY during TLS right? So whats the deal?
yeah he never left it bothers the hell out of me so much it's like they totally had a brain fart and forgot about him poor leatherhead!:cry:

[Revan]

yeah he never left it bothers the hell out of me so much it's like they totally had a brain fart and forgot about him poor leatherhead!:cry:

Could they have just forgotten to write him into the ep? That sounds so rediculous. I can't think of a reason to exclude him. He is a force! Remember when he fought gamera don!?:ohwell:

[VaughnMichael]

Could they have just forgotten to write him into the ep? That sounds so rediculous. I can't think of a reason to exclude him. He is a force! Remember when he fought gamera don!?:ohwell:
Yes and many other times he's a force to be recond with!
I don't know how they could forget about him it does sort of make you wonder though.

[odupianist]

Would his avatar be an alligator or a crocodile? lol

[Revan]

Would his avatar be an alligator or a crocodile? lol

haha:lol: :lol: I have never even thought of the fact that the turtles are already animals that have different animals for avatars! something silly to think about.

[DonatelloDomeHead31]

Since this is the subject of Leatherhead and i hate to request, if its doable, but does anyone have the comic scans of when Jess meets Mary Bones, steals the TurnStone, later gets turned into LeatherHead, and later the encounter with him on the bridge?

[dejawolf]

yeah, i'd love any comic scans of archie leatherhead!