Leatherhead

Death's Head · 03-28-2007, 01:20 PM

Is he an alligator or a crocodile?

*triplexxx* · 03-28-2007, 02:33 PM

Crocodile.

Ballerninja · 03-28-2007, 03:36 PM

He's only a croc in the 2k3 series, I think. He was an alligator in the original series, and in mirage comics.

raphaelprime · 03-28-2007, 10:19 PM

I think he's an Alligator in every adaptation. Only thing about the 2k3 series is that the episode was called 'What a croc' cause i dont think 'what a gator' would have sounded as good, so they just called him a croc. But most(if not all) of the drawings and animations i've seen of him, he's been drawn as an alligator cause gators have wider snouts and slightly shorter, whereas crocs are long and slim.

*Revan* · 03-29-2007, 11:11 AM

Since we all know wiki is 100% credible.

you could check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherhead_%28TMNT%29
according to wiki

Mirage = Alligator
Image = Croc
87 OT = Alligator
Archie comics = started out as a human
2k3 = Croc

*Drtooth* · 03-29-2007, 03:26 PM

Someone, oh someon, who's an expert on all things reptillian please tell us the difference between Croc and gator.

All I know is in spanish, they only have one word, "Cocodrillo"

Much less confusing. UT!

ninjitsu_magic_47 · 04-05-2007, 02:45 AM

I love Leatherhead. Doesn't matter to me whether or not he's a croc or not. There aren't enough shows on him...

*odupianist* · 04-05-2007, 06:42 AM

I was quite surprised he was not in the final battle against the tengu Shredder.

ninjitsu_magic_47 · 04-05-2007, 09:13 AM

Yeah, that sorta bugged me. He lives in New York too, he would have helped somehow.

Sanjuro · 04-05-2007, 12:21 PM

Crocodile. The difference between the two are very small. Main noticable difference is Crocodiles front teeth show when their mouth is closed.

TMNTserbia · 04-05-2007, 12:35 PM

Serbian translation:
Lederhed,aligator močvara Floride.

ninjitsu_magic_47 · 04-05-2007, 05:48 PM

Maybe he's a croc/gator cross?

*Ava Collier* · 04-05-2007, 06:19 PM

Now I remember! I was searching for the answer to this question myself, that's how I found these forums. I do think it would depend on his origins. I really think the 2k3 version is a crocodile, but it would make more sense in the 80's version if he was an alligator...since they have those in Florida. ^_^

*ToTheNines* · 04-05-2007, 07:08 PM

I always hated Leatherheads name... its like, real dumb. Anyone else share this thought?

SLASH!!! · 04-05-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutrino

Since we all know wiki is 100% credible.

you could check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherhead_%28TMNT%29
according to wiki

Mirage = Alligator
Image = Croc
87 OT = Alligator
Archie comics = started out as a human
2k3 = Croc

I remember in Image Leo refering to LH as a gator. I'll have to check.

ninjitsu_magic_47 · 04-05-2007, 08:30 PM

I like Leatherheads name.

*Revan* · 04-05-2007, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLASH!!!

I remember in Image Leo refering to LH as a gator. I'll have to check.

Keep in mind that's just wiki. And even if Leo did call him a gator, that really doesn't make him one.

*odupianist* · 04-06-2007, 06:58 AM

I think Leo also referred to him as a gator in the 2k3 series too, in the episode "Hunted"

Ra · 04-06-2007, 07:33 AM

I'm sure that Leatherhead is primarily an alligator in all of his carnations. I used to think in the 2k3 incarnation he is a saltwater crocodile due to his personality. He, like other crocs, was pretty calm, but when angered, extremely deadly and vicious. Then I decided to do a little research into crocs and alligators and saw that he is, indeed, an alligator in the 2k3 incarnation. Here's a picture compairing a crocodile and alligator snout from a bird's eye view (Sorry, the picture will only show up as a link for some reason).
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=91307&rendTypeId=4

Note how the alligator has a wider snout. Salt water crocodiles have a similar build, but it curves in like the crocodile snout in the picture above. Then you look at some of the screen grabs from the show and you can really tell that they are similar (I'll just post a link to the grabs on ninjaturtles.com. I'm too tired to make images appear out of nowhere right now...)
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/...nopses/38.html

teletran · 04-26-2007, 09:32 PM

According to wikipedia the term crocodile can be used to refer to any member of the crocodile family, given this I’d say it's more likely that he's an alligator who is sometimes called a crocodile.

03-28-2007, 01:20 PM	#1
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03-28-2007, 02:33 PM	#2
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03-28-2007, 10:19 PM	#4
raphaelprime Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Caniac Nation, NC Posts: 416	I think he's an Alligator in every adaptation. Only thing about the 2k3 series is that the episode was called 'What a croc' cause i dont think 'what a gator' would have sounded as good, so they just called him a croc. But most(if not all) of the drawings and animations i've seen of him, he's been drawn as an alligator cause gators have wider snouts and slightly shorter, whereas crocs are long and slim. __________________ "Welcome to the south, plan to lose in our house, GoCanes, Carolina is back, and we're all Caniacs, GoCanes, We want more, shutout score, let's go Ward, GoCanes"....the new and improved version of Clapton's classic Cocaine Courtesy of Sliced...Thanks Sliced.

03-29-2007, 11:11 AM	#5
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Since we all know wiki is 100% credible. you could check it out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherhead_%28TMNT%29 according to wiki Mirage = Alligator Image = Croc 87 OT = Alligator Archie comics = started out as a human 2k3 = Croc __________________

03-29-2007, 03:26 PM	#6
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Someone, oh someon, who's an expert on all things reptillian please tell us the difference between Croc and gator. All I know is in spanish, they only have one word, "Cocodrillo" Much less confusing. UT! __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

03-28-2007, 03:36 PM	#3
Ballerninja Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 22	He's only a croc in the 2k3 series, I think. He was an alligator in the original series, and in mirage comics.

04-05-2007, 02:45 AM	#7
ninjitsu_magic_47 Thug Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 79	I love Leatherhead. Doesn't matter to me whether or not he's a croc or not. There aren't enough shows on him...

04-05-2007, 06:42 AM	#8
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	I was quite surprised he was not in the final battle against the tengu Shredder.

04-05-2007, 09:13 AM	#9
ninjitsu_magic_47 Thug Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 79	Yeah, that sorta bugged me. He lives in New York too, he would have helped somehow.

04-05-2007, 12:21 PM	#10
Sanjuro Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 598	Crocodile. The difference between the two are very small. Main noticable difference is Crocodiles front teeth show when their mouth is closed.

04-05-2007, 12:35 PM	#11
TMNTserbia Thug Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 80	Serbian translation: Lederhed,aligator močvara Floride. __________________ www.nindzakornjace.20m.com/

04-05-2007, 05:48 PM	#12
ninjitsu_magic_47 Thug Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 79	Maybe he's a croc/gator cross?

04-05-2007, 06:19 PM	#13
Ava Collier It's ninja ninja RAT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,958	Now I remember! I was searching for the answer to this question myself, that's how I found these forums. I do think it would depend on his origins. I really think the 2k3 version is a crocodile, but it would make more sense in the 80's version if he was an alligator...since they have those in Florida. ^_^ __________________

04-05-2007, 07:08 PM	#14
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,044	I always hated Leatherheads name... its like, real dumb. Anyone else share this thought?

04-05-2007, 08:30 PM	#16
ninjitsu_magic_47 Thug Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 79	I like Leatherheads name.

04-06-2007, 06:58 AM	#18
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	I think Leo also referred to him as a gator in the 2k3 series too, in the episode "Hunted"

04-06-2007, 07:33 AM	#19
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	I'm sure that Leatherhead is primarily an alligator in all of his carnations. I used to think in the 2k3 incarnation he is a saltwater crocodile due to his personality. He, like other crocs, was pretty calm, but when angered, extremely deadly and vicious. Then I decided to do a little research into crocs and alligators and saw that he is, indeed, an alligator in the 2k3 incarnation. Here's a picture compairing a crocodile and alligator snout from a bird's eye view (Sorry, the picture will only show up as a link for some reason). http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=91307&rendTypeId=4 Note how the alligator has a wider snout. Salt water crocodiles have a similar build, but it curves in like the crocodile snout in the picture above. Then you look at some of the screen grabs from the show and you can really tell that they are similar (I'll just post a link to the grabs on ninjaturtles.com. I'm too tired to make images appear out of nowhere right now...) http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/...nopses/38.html __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

04-26-2007, 09:32 PM	#20
teletran Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: perth, western australia Posts: 46	According to wikipedia the term crocodile can be used to refer to any member of the crocodile family, given this I’d say it's more likely that he's an alligator who is sometimes called a crocodile.