Does anyone know why Casey wasn't in TMNT 2?

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

I know that Keno sort of "replaced" him,but I would've like his sarcastic humor to be in TMNT 2. He was in TMNT 3,but I never understood that whole
"Whit is Casey's ancestor" thing. Kinda corny. I've got one more question-why is April played by a different actress in TMNT 2 and 3 than in TMNT 1?
Was Judith Hoag not interested in TMNT 2? I'd be interested to know why TMNT 2's cast was slighly different.

[Karpo_007]

Judith Hoag said that he wasn't quite happy ewith outcome of the first movie... And I think Elias Koteas didn't want to do TMNT 2 either.

[Jephael]

From what I understand, they thought the Casey Jones character was deemed too scary. It was reported that he reminded people too much of Jason from Friday the 13th.

[raphael90]

Judith Hoag was a good actor and played a good April. The other April I didn't mind I guess, but now that I think about it, some continuity with actors would have been nice. Yeah, Casey would probably have made good in Keno's role...(no diss to Keno's actor, he was good).

Casey scary? I never saw the Friday the 13th movie, but please...I thought he was if anything funny. A perfect rival for Raph.

[Keno]

A perfect rival for Raph.

casey and raph were more like friends than rivals

mabe at first they clashed abit but they made a good team

[xZAOx]

i agree with japheal. i mean, the whole reason tmnt 2 was the way it was, was b/c of parents bitching about the first one being to violent and what-not. and casey is the most violent character there is, more so than raph if ya ask me.

c'mon, the guy likes to beat the living hell out of purse-stealers with a hockey stick! if they got rid of the turtle's weapons, of course they are just gonna get rid of casey altogether.

when they brought him back in the third one, he was such a tool. all cleaned up and happy. bleh!

[Eye of Sarnath]

Casey was really lame in TMNT 3, such a great character wasted on such a small part.

Come on, everybody likes Casey Jones. He's the coolest TMNT character that isn't a mutant! And he's really cool in the new 'toon, good to see he's playing a larger part.

In fact, I was disscussing with another TMNT fan the other day just how incredibly cool Casey is. Then we complined that he wasn't in the old cartoon enough, which he wasn't, only three eps I can remeber...

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

Thanks,guys/ Yeah,I did notice that the Turtles are "weaponsless" in TMNT 2 for the most part{except the opening scene}. :lol: Casey was a "tool" in TMNT 3! He did almost nothing of note whatsoever! I mean,c'mon! They brought Tastu back,and he remained almost the same. While we're on the subject of "axed" characters,having Shredder die in TMNT 2 kinda killed TMNT 3 for me. I knew from minute 1 that he would be non-existent{except maybe as a ghost}. But then came that whole "Back To The Future" plot :-? :x Whoever thought of that idea totally missed the point.
Oh well. Here's to hoping for a TMNT 4! :tsmile:

[That Matt Guy]

Have you seen the actor that played Casey now? He has a tremendously large forehead due to his receding hairline! :lol:

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

lol

[Karpo_007]

From what I understand, they thought the Casey Jones character was deemed too scary. It was reported that he reminded people too much of Jason from Friday the 13th.

If that is true, The parents are to blame for that to.

[Nturtle]

Yeah the parents made TMNT 2 into a more cartoony movie than TMNT 1 was, which bugs me a bit. Also Shredder was played by somebody else too

[cable04]

donny could use his bo-staff in TMNT 2, so they weren't ALL weapon-less

casey was cool in the first movie, and should have been in the second one.
i hate actors who think they're too cool to play parts anymore

keno was cool too, though.

i hate the third movie. it's such a waste of turtlemania. "let's make them go back in time!" :roll:

a fourth movie, done properly, would be awesome

[Deathknight]

I liked all 3 tmnt movies no matter how they changed them because of stupid parents. Although, tmnt 1 will always be my favorite. But I really think they went a little overboard saying that the tmnt watched too much tv in the 3rd movie. Michelangelo: "Clint.... Eastwood?" -TMNT 3

[Jephael]

I thought Don's baseball and pinball game references were great though.

[xZAOx]

the time travel idea is actually related to the original comic book. they travel in time in a number of issues. that basics of the plot didnt bother, just the horrible execution of the idea....

[lhb412]

the time travel idea is actually related to the original comic book. they travel in time in a number of issues. that basics of the plot didnt bother, just the horrible execution of the idea....


Yhea, If well executed it could have been great! They should have had Renet and perhaps the ancestors of what would become the foot, and also (this would've been realy cool) a feudal Japan version of the Shredder.

And oh, It would be inspired by the Seven Samurai, with the Foot and Shredder substituting the bandits, and the four Turtles, April, Casey, and Renet substituting for the samurai.

Man, I wish I could go back in time and fix TMNT 3.

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

Yeah,a Feudal Japan Shredder would've OWNED. :o A different guy played Shredder in TMNT 2? They looked alike,same voice?

[Karpo_007]

I guess that Shredder's voice wasn't that hard to imitate.

[Reznorite420]

only three eps I can remeber...- Casey Jones, Outlaw Hero

- Corporate Raiders From Dimention X

- Leonardo Cuts Loose

- Cyber Turtles

That makes at least 4 :P :P :P

"4! Count 'em, 4 Turtles!"
Donatello from "Cowabunga, Shredhead"

[Karpo_007]

Night of the Rogues has casey too.

[Reznorite420]

OK, that makes 5 :D

[Deathknight]

And those are the only 5 he is in, Casey owns though. He was awesome in all the tmnt universes except the 3rd tmnt movie. Although when the honor guards first come through time he was gonna fight them until Kenshin came in. "Alright boys, who's first in line?!" *Kenshin enters and honor guards drop their weapons* "Ah.... ancient wusses" -TMNT 3

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

Yeah,he wasn't all bad in TMNT 3. At least he was in there{unlike TMNT 2}. :cry:

[xZAOx]

i just watched outlaw heros. hes hilarous, haha. that voice kills me!

on a side note, i just got done repainting my casey jones' duffel bag and weapons. after i finish up the golf club, im gonna post my pics in the customs thread (of which i seem to be the only one adding stuff hehe)

anyways, i really like how the duffel bag turned out! altho it doesnt take much to beat solid green haha

[raphael90]

I just wanted to comment on the side, that I agree that the whole Casey's ancestor in movie 3 was pretty strange. He was a weird character. He was all sullen and silent for a time, then he starts trying get to know April, then he betrays everyone.... I mean was it really an elaborate plan to put him in the dungeon with April, have him escape, follow them to the rebel's town, then kidnap the woman? They didn't even know the Turtles were going to show up and rescue April from the dungeon. The story of that movie sure got weak in places...and the new look the Turtles and Splinter had...ick :dead:

Now the Casey back in New York was funny however... :lol:

*pathogenic out*

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

True. "NY Casey" should've had a bigger role.

[Reznorite420]

Was he really a relative of Casey? As far as I know it was just Elias Koteas playing him because he was the only guy who could be found to play him.

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

Yeah,i think it says that he's Casey's relative. I'm not sure,I havent watched it in a while. :(

[Karpo_007]

I think that because they paid for Elias Koteas, they wanted him to have more than a small role.

[Jephael]

Was he really a relative of Casey? As far as I know it was just Elias Koteas playing him because he was the only guy who could be found to play him.

If you watch the part where the Rebels take the turtles to their villiage, Raph walks up to Whit and says "Hey pal, you got a relative in Brooklyn? Nah!"

[Deathknight]

I don't remember that part...

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

That sucks. I always assumed that Whit and Casey were related. I mean,c'mon! Playmates released a Whit figure that came with a catapult and could "transform" into Casey. I assumed this was due to them being related. Oh well. :(

[Kali]

Well, while they don't really say for sure that they're related (although distantly) it's implied, since they resemble each other so closely. So if you want to think they are, go ahead! It's not gonna hurt anything.

[the fugitoid]

Heh. I've been on the board less than 10 minutes and already I find another fan from SA, TX. 8)

All I remember from TMNT 3 was horrible jokes along with cheap production. In retrospect, I really think pt.3 was lame. Too bad. As it was said earlier, the idea was solid, but the execution just wasn't there.

--Fugi

[raphael90]

April did mistake him or at least saw the resemblance...but I guess that doesn't pull alot of weight.

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

yeah,It would've been better if they worked on it longer. It seemed like a rushed attempt to breathe some life into the TMNT movie franchise,and it showed. The animatronics and lip-synching is pretty bad in TMNT 3-you couldnt tell they were animatronic/guys in suits for the most part in TMNT and TMNT 2. It's kinda obvious in TMNT 3{at least I think so}. :(

[cable04]

i think the 3rd movie was just lame. it probably could have been cool, but it just wasn't there

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

true.

[Sparvid]

yeah,It would've been better if they worked on it longer. It seemed like a rushed attempt to breathe some life into the TMNT movie franchise,and it showed. The animatronics and lip-synching is pretty bad in TMNT 3-you couldnt tell they were animatronic/guys in suits for the most part in TMNT and TMNT 2. It's kinda obvious in TMNT 3{at least I think so}. :(That as the first thing I thought of when I saw the first couple of scenes. In the third movie the don't look like mutated turtles, they look like guys in costumes... :(

[OrokuSaki's#1Fan]

Unfortunately true. Probably due to them not using Jim Henson's Creature Shop for the first time. HENSON WAS THE MAN! :)

[Reznorite420]

Heh. I've been on the board less than 10 minutes and already I find another fan from SA, TX. 8)You have no idea how much bliss I'm filled with right now knowing that I'm not the only person in SA that's a TMNT fan :D