Does anyone know why Casey wasn't in TMNT 2?

OrokuSaki's#1Fan · 01-25-2003, 06:23 PM

I know that Keno sort of "replaced" him,but I would've like his sarcastic humor to be in TMNT 2. He was in TMNT 3,but I never understood that whole
"Whit is Casey's ancestor" thing. Kinda corny. I've got one more question-why is April played by a different actress in TMNT 2 and 3 than in TMNT 1?
Was Judith Hoag not interested in TMNT 2? I'd be interested to know why TMNT 2's cast was slighly different.

**Karpo_007** · 01-25-2003, 06:30 PM

Judith Hoag said that he wasn't quite happy ewith outcome of the first movie... And I think Elias Koteas didn't want to do TMNT 2 either.

*Jephael* · 01-25-2003, 09:41 PM

From what I understand, they thought the Casey Jones character was deemed too scary. It was reported that he reminded people too much of Jason from Friday the 13th.

raphael90 · 01-26-2003, 12:31 AM

Judith Hoag was a good actor and played a good April. The other April I didn't mind I guess, but now that I think about it, some continuity with actors would have been nice. Yeah, Casey would probably have made good in Keno's role...(no diss to Keno's actor, he was good).

Casey scary? I never saw the Friday the 13th movie, but please...I thought he was if anything funny. A perfect rival for Raph.

Keno · 01-26-2003, 12:40 AM

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A perfect rival for Raph.

casey and raph were more like friends than rivals

mabe at first they clashed abit but they made a good team

xZAOx · 01-26-2003, 12:43 AM

i agree with japheal. i mean, the whole reason tmnt 2 was the way it was, was b/c of parents bitching about the first one being to violent and what-not. and casey is the most violent character there is, more so than raph if ya ask me.

c'mon, the guy likes to beat the living hell out of purse-stealers with a hockey stick! if they got rid of the turtle's weapons, of course they are just gonna get rid of casey altogether.

when they brought him back in the third one, he was such a tool. all cleaned up and happy. bleh!

*Eye of Sarnath* · 01-26-2003, 12:54 AM

Casey was really lame in TMNT 3, such a great character wasted on such a small part.

Come on, everybody likes Casey Jones. He's the coolest TMNT character that isn't a mutant! And he's really cool in the new 'toon, good to see he's playing a larger part.

In fact, I was disscussing with another TMNT fan the other day just how incredibly cool Casey is. Then we complined that he wasn't in the old cartoon enough, which he wasn't, only three eps I can remeber...

OrokuSaki's#1Fan · 01-26-2003, 01:24 AM

Thanks,guys/ Yeah,I did notice that the Turtles are "weaponsless" in TMNT 2 for the most part{except the opening scene}.

Casey was a "tool" in TMNT 3! He did almost nothing of note whatsoever! I mean,c'mon! They brought Tastu back,and he remained almost the same. While we're on the subject of "axed" characters,having Shredder die in TMNT 2 kinda killed TMNT 3 for me. I knew from minute 1 that he would be non-existent{except maybe as a ghost}. But then came that whole "Back To The Future" plot

Whoever thought of that idea totally missed the point.
Oh well. Here's to hoping for a TMNT 4!

*That Matt Guy* · 01-26-2003, 02:06 AM

Have you seen the actor that played Casey now? He has a tremendously large forehead due to his receding hairline!

OrokuSaki's#1Fan · 01-26-2003, 02:27 AM

lol

**Karpo_007** · 01-26-2003, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

From what I understand, they thought the Casey Jones character was deemed too scary. It was reported that he reminded people too much of Jason from Friday the 13th.

If that is true, The parents are to blame for that to.

**Nturtle** · 01-26-2003, 09:15 AM

Yeah the parents made TMNT 2 into a more cartoony movie than TMNT 1 was, which bugs me a bit. Also Shredder was played by somebody else too

cable04 · 01-26-2003, 09:48 AM

donny could use his bo-staff in TMNT 2, so they weren't ALL weapon-less

casey was cool in the first movie, and should have been in the second one.
i hate actors who think they're too cool to play parts anymore

keno was cool too, though.

i hate the third movie. it's such a waste of turtlemania. "let's make them go back in time!"

a fourth movie, done properly, would be awesome

*Deathknight* · 01-26-2003, 11:21 AM

I liked all 3 tmnt movies no matter how they changed them because of stupid parents. Although, tmnt 1 will always be my favorite. But I really think they went a little overboard saying that the tmnt watched too much tv in the 3rd movie. Michelangelo: "Clint.... Eastwood?" -TMNT 3

*Jephael* · 01-26-2003, 11:23 AM

I thought Don's baseball and pinball game references were great though.

xZAOx · 01-26-2003, 01:05 PM

the time travel idea is actually related to the original comic book. they travel in time in a number of issues. that basics of the plot didnt bother, just the horrible execution of the idea....

lhb412 · 01-26-2003, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xZAOx

the time travel idea is actually related to the original comic book. they travel in time in a number of issues. that basics of the plot didnt bother, just the horrible execution of the idea....

Yhea, If well executed it could have been great! They should have had Renet and perhaps the ancestors of what would become the foot, and also (this would've been realy cool) a feudal Japan version of the Shredder.

And oh, It would be inspired by the Seven Samurai, with the Foot and Shredder substituting the bandits, and the four Turtles, April, Casey, and Renet substituting for the samurai.

Man, I wish I could go back in time and fix TMNT 3.

OrokuSaki's#1Fan · 01-26-2003, 04:11 PM

Yeah,a Feudal Japan Shredder would've OWNED.

A different guy played Shredder in TMNT 2? They looked alike,same voice?

**Karpo_007** · 01-26-2003, 04:26 PM

I guess that Shredder's voice wasn't that hard to imitate.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 01-26-2003, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Eye of Sarnath

only three eps I can remeber...

- Casey Jones, Outlaw Hero

- Corporate Raiders From Dimention X

- Leonardo Cuts Loose

- Cyber Turtles

That makes at least 4

"4! Count 'em, 4 Turtles!"
Donatello from "Cowabunga, Shredhead"

01-25-2003, 09:41 PM	#3
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	From what I understand, they thought the Casey Jones character was deemed too scary. It was reported that he reminded people too much of Jason from Friday the 13th. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

01-26-2003, 12:31 AM	#4
raphael90 Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ...down in the sewer listening to Skinny Puppy... Posts: 618	tmnt Judith Hoag was a good actor and played a good April. The other April I didn't mind I guess, but now that I think about it, some continuity with actors would have been nice. Yeah, Casey would probably have made good in Keno's role...(no diss to Keno's actor, he was good). Casey scary? I never saw the Friday the 13th movie, but please...I thought he was if anything funny. A perfect rival for Raph. __________________ "Babies? These things haven't even been BORN yet!" -Raphael

01-26-2003, 12:54 AM	#7
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	Casey was really lame in TMNT 3, such a great character wasted on such a small part. Come on, everybody likes Casey Jones. He's the coolest TMNT character that isn't a mutant! And he's really cool in the new 'toon, good to see he's playing a larger part. In fact, I was disscussing with another TMNT fan the other day just how incredibly cool Casey is. Then we complined that he wasn't in the old cartoon enough, which he wasn't, only three eps I can remeber... __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

01-26-2003, 09:15 AM	#12
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	Yeah the parents made TMNT 2 into a more cartoony movie than TMNT 1 was, which bugs me a bit. Also Shredder was played by somebody else too __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

01-26-2003, 09:48 AM	#13
cable04 Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 32	donny could use his bo-staff in TMNT 2, so they weren't ALL weapon-less casey was cool in the first movie, and should have been in the second one. i hate actors who think they're too cool to play parts anymore keno was cool too, though. i hate the third movie. it's such a waste of turtlemania. "let's make them go back in time!" a fourth movie, done properly, would be awesome __________________ can't wait 'til february 8th

01-25-2003, 06:23 PM	#1
OrokuSaki's#1Fan Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Elmira,NY Posts: 91	Does anyone know why Casey wasn't in TMNT 2? I know that Keno sort of "replaced" him,but I would've like his sarcastic humor to be in TMNT 2. He was in TMNT 3,but I never understood that whole "Whit is Casey's ancestor" thing. Kinda corny. I've got one more question-why is April played by a different actress in TMNT 2 and 3 than in TMNT 1? Was Judith Hoag not interested in TMNT 2? I'd be interested to know why TMNT 2's cast was slighly different.

01-25-2003, 06:30 PM	#2
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Judith Hoag said that he wasn't quite happy ewith outcome of the first movie... And I think Elias Koteas didn't want to do TMNT 2 either.

01-26-2003, 12:43 AM	#6
xZAOx Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TN Posts: 842	i agree with japheal. i mean, the whole reason tmnt 2 was the way it was, was b/c of parents bitching about the first one being to violent and what-not. and casey is the most violent character there is, more so than raph if ya ask me. c'mon, the guy likes to beat the living hell out of purse-stealers with a hockey stick! if they got rid of the turtle's weapons, of course they are just gonna get rid of casey altogether. when they brought him back in the third one, he was such a tool. all cleaned up and happy. bleh!

01-26-2003, 01:24 AM	#8
OrokuSaki's#1Fan Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Elmira,NY Posts: 91	Thanks,guys/ Yeah,I did notice that the Turtles are "weaponsless" in TMNT 2 for the most part{except the opening scene}. Casey was a "tool" in TMNT 3! He did almost nothing of note whatsoever! I mean,c'mon! They brought Tastu back,and he remained almost the same. While we're on the subject of "axed" characters,having Shredder die in TMNT 2 kinda killed TMNT 3 for me. I knew from minute 1 that he would be non-existent{except maybe as a ghost}. But then came that whole "Back To The Future" plot Whoever thought of that idea totally missed the point. Oh well. Here's to hoping for a TMNT 4!

01-26-2003, 02:06 AM	#9
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Have you seen the actor that played Casey now? He has a tremendously large forehead due to his receding hairline!

01-26-2003, 02:27 AM	#10
OrokuSaki's#1Fan Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Elmira,NY Posts: 91	lol

01-26-2003, 11:21 AM	#14
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	I liked all 3 tmnt movies no matter how they changed them because of stupid parents. Although, tmnt 1 will always be my favorite. But I really think they went a little overboard saying that the tmnt watched too much tv in the 3rd movie. Michelangelo: "Clint.... Eastwood?" -TMNT 3 __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

01-26-2003, 11:23 AM	#15
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I thought Don's baseball and pinball game references were great though. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

01-26-2003, 01:05 PM	#16
xZAOx Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TN Posts: 842	the time travel idea is actually related to the original comic book. they travel in time in a number of issues. that basics of the plot didnt bother, just the horrible execution of the idea....

01-26-2003, 04:11 PM	#18
OrokuSaki's#1Fan Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Elmira,NY Posts: 91	Yeah,a Feudal Japan Shredder would've OWNED. A different guy played Shredder in TMNT 2? They looked alike,same voice?

01-26-2003, 04:26 PM	#19
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I guess that Shredder's voice wasn't that hard to imitate.