Alright... this may seem silly...

[Spacefille]

But is it Donny, or Donnie? When they are talking to him and abbreviate his name. I'm trying to write fanfic so this is relevant. I can't seem to find any info, and I see both versions almost equally all over the net. At least it's easy with Raph, Leo and Mikey. *rolls eyes* Any offical info?

[CyberCubed]

I think its Donny.

[Jon]

And other times they do shorten it (ala. Raph and Leo) to "Don" just as often I think.

[Spacefille]

I know that Jon, but when Mikey talks to him, more often than not he uses Donny or Donnie. "Don" is more formal.

Anyway, that's why I'm asking. :)

[Revan]

the ie suffix has traditionally been feminine while the y usually takes the masculine

[Spacefille]

So if I want to imply that Donatello is GAY... ;)

Thank you Neutrino, that is extremely helpful. *nods*

[Rooish]

I spell it "Donny." However, I can't remember if anyone else has spelled it that way, except in the Image comics (which aren't considered official). On the official TMNT website, in his profile, it's spelled "Donny" though. But I think tons of people spell it "Donnie."

[Masked Ninja]

I spell it "Donny" because I have never heard of a man named Donald spelling his nickname "Donnie" ... always "Donny." Well, most often it's just "Don," but I understand you want a more familiar Mikey-type nickname. At any rate, I assume it would be spelled the way I've seen most fellow humans do it. ;)

And I agree that the "ie" suffix has feminine connotations for me. So I've never spelled it that way.

Though almost every Donatello fangirl I've seen spells it "Donnie." It does look more cutesy that way, I suppose...

[Jo Dawn]

So if I want to imply that Donatello is GAY... ;)


You wound me to the core... :cry:


I spell it "Donny" because I have never heard of a man named Donald spelling his nickname "Donnie" ... always "Donny."

Maybe it's... regional. I've never seen it spelled 'Donny'. Now, I spell it 'Donnie'... because I think that 'Donny' looks too girly. So I go with 'Donnie'.

[The Shelf]

Mikie!!

... :ohwell:

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Donnie I guess...I think...It's how I would spell it

[iris]

I kind of agree that "--ie" is usually the feminine... Bobbie vs. Bobby, etc. But then again, I coulda sworn I saw it written "Donnie" somewheres official-like too, Jo. Like a comic book. But I try not to rely on my memory.

Dan Berger spells it "Donny." And Michelangelo ;) spelled it "Donny" in one of his recent ninjaturtles.com letters.

[Spacefille]

Thanks to everyone who replied. I went with Donny.

You wound me to the core... :cry:


I'm sorry. ^^ Despite the fact that he wears purple... and is a pacifist who doesn't like to fight, and is soft spoken and gentle, I was just teasing about the gay. ;)

Nothing he's done implies it on the show at least, for the most part. He seems to like April.

[Jo Dawn]

Haha, I was really joking.

...And yes. He likes April. *refrains from going into long winded speech that everyone's heard before* Let's just say... it's canon.

[The Shelf]

Haha, I was really joking.

...And yes. He likes April. *refrains from going into long winded speech that everyone's heard before* Let's just say... it's canon.

Where is it in canon? I haven't read many of the comics yet, though I aim to fix that. Is it in Volume 1 or 2 or perhaps Tales? I'm assuming it isn't 4 since she's married by then.

[Jo Dawn]

Well... hm. It's just supposed to have been in there, even if it's not blatently obvious. I know for SURE it's in the 2K3 series... I talked to the guys at the official site a few times... Don's always supposed to have had a crush on her. In the cartoon, however, it's played down a bit.

Really, not to get off topic, I think it's something they really should have explored a tad more. Though it's quite obvious the disdain between Casey and Don sometimes. Casey's even made some comments, hah.

Um... But... back to your regularly scheduled thread.

[Ra]

.......

People spell it "Donny" now? :-? Ever since I was introduced to the turtle's nicknames, I have gone with "Donnie" for Donatello. I think that's how it's offically spelt, but oh well. Donnie suits Don more better than Donny, me thinks. Like Jo said, it kinda looks girly... :ohwell:

[Greed]

I usually spell it Donny, it just looks better on paper when referring to males.

[GK Punk]

You wound me to the core... :cry:


It's ok. We'll find her in her sleep.

[iris]

People spell it "Donny" now? :-? Ever since I was introduced to the turtle's nicknames, I have gone with "Donnie" for Donatello. I think that's how it's offically spelt, but oh well. Donnie suits Don more better than Donny, me thinks. Like Jo said, it kinda looks girly... :ohwell:

FWIW, I also think "Donnie" looks better for some reason.

Don's always supposed to have had a crush on her. In the cartoon, however, it's played down a bit.

Not to derail, but always as in Vol 1, or always as in what the 2K3 series is based on? My access to the comics has been sketchy, but I've never noticed that.

I think it's actually pretty blatant in 2K3. :oops:

[Jo Dawn]

Gah, I'll have to do research for the comics bit... 'Cause it's laaaate and I must sleep.

But yeah, it's really blatant in the cartoon. I really wish they'd have played a bit more with it.

[Jester]

Jester chooses "Donniey" best of both worlds.

[Spacefille]

But yeah, it's really blatant in the cartoon. I really wish they'd have played a bit more with it.

Only a bit more? I wished they went waaaaay further with it, but they won't because it's a children's cartoon. ;)

[Rooish]

Jo, I don't recall it really happening in the old Mirage comics. Now I'm curious. Can you elaborate? I've only really seen it in the new cartoon.

[Jo Dawn]

Well, as per the Mirage comics, I can't much say as I haven't read in a loooong time, lol. I may have worded it badly, but I'll do research. Maybe someone can help (or correct me, if the case should be) on this.

And, ok, fine. They should have gone way, way further with it in the cartoon... Such character-building! All for naught.

I thought it'd have such possibilities, even past any romantic things... Just... character growth and all that.

[Jester]

Upon further research:

Mirage: Don...didn't see any Donnie/y, but then again I only have 4 Mirage issues, 2 "City at War" books, Flaming Carrot crossover part 2 (I think) and Vol 4, ish 1 a gift from Mirage.

Archie: Didn't see any Donnie/ys either, only Don.

Dreamwave: Donnie is the spelling.

TMNT 2: "Sounds pretty persistant, says his name's Donny."

So it's un in the air. Next stop TMNT 2k3 DVDs. The OT never called them by nicknames.

[Bevandera]

Upon further research:

Mirage: Don...didn't see any Donnie/y, but then again I only have 4 Mirage issues, 2 "City at War" books, Flaming Carrot crossover part 2 (I think) and Vol 4, ish 1 a gift from Mirage.

Archie:Didn't see any Donnie/ys either, only Don.

Dreamwave: Donnie is the spelling.

TMNT 2: "Sounds pretty persistant, says his name's Donny."

So it's un in the air. Next stop TMNT 2k3 DVDs. The OT never called them by nicknames.

You're going to have headaches if you try to include the non-canon comics: both nicknames are used at one point or another. Use Volume 1 (the issues done by the regulars), Volume 2, Volume 4, and Tales Vols. 1 and (some of?) 2.

EDIT: Just checked Collected Tales Volume 1...neither nickname is used, no Mikey either. It's all Leo, Don, Mike, and Raph. Fun fact: Leo actually refers to them as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in #7.

Also, I think someone may have mentioned this, but the official Mirage site has it as "Donny".

HEIGHT: 5' 2"

WEIGHT: 180 lbs.

EYES: Dark Brown

WEAPON: Bo Staff

FAVORITE COLOR: Purple

HOBBIES: Inventing, Computers, Engineering, Piloting, Mathematics, Science

FAVORITE MUSIC: Classical, "Classic" Rock, the Roches

NICKNAMES: Don, Donny, Don-San

FAVORITE FOODS: Pizza, Sushi

FAVORITE BOOK: "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking

[Buslady]

whatever you prefer.

By habit I spell it Donnie.

[Jester]

I spell it Donnie, just cause I do. Mikey is a "Y", Donnie and in some cases Raph is "ie."

[Rooish]

Well, as per the Mirage comics, I can't much say as I haven't read in a loooong time, lol. I may have worded it badly, but I'll do research. Maybe someone can help (or correct me, if the case should be) on this.

And, ok, fine. They should have gone way, way further with it in the cartoon... Such character-building! All for naught.

I thought it'd have such possibilities, even past any romantic things... Just... character growth and all that.

Well, I definitely think it shows in Volume 4, and there were a couple parts in Volume 1 (like, when Don kicked Casey's butt, and some of the convos he had with April) that may have hinted at it. I wish it was played up more in the new cartoon, too.

I love the part in "Adventures in Turtle Sitting." Well, actually a couple parts. When Casey's like, "You're totally cramping my style, bro." And then when he says, "Dude, she's my girlfriend! You can't have her!"

Oh, the subtlety.

[The Shelf]

Interesting stuff.

For the record, I always called him Donny. My first impression when I see it spelled Donnie is that it's a spelling error. I've never seen it spelled that way until I came on here.

Also, I'm not sure because there are several people on here that I'm not sure if they're guys or girls, but am I noticing a pattern? Do the guys generally call him Donny and the girls call him Donnie? I said generally, I know there are exceptions.

[Shark_Blade]

I call him Donny too. It doesn't reflect feminisme whatsoever in my opinion. And it's easier to read.

Donnie? Reminds me of Ronnie. (Ronald Weasley for that matter,urgh:p)

[odupianist]

I have never heard of a man named Donald spelling his nickname "Donnie" .

One of my good friends in middle school went with the -ie.

Mikie!!

The -ie doesn't work for Mike cause the e is already there.

I notice I go both ways for Don and Raph. That's why I try sticking to Don or Raph when I call them by name.

[Bevandera]

That's why I try sticking to Don or Raph when I call them by name.

Seems like the writers/creators feel the same way...they turtles are overwhelmingly referred to in the comics as Don, Raph, Mike, and Leo over the other nicknames. When the official sources do use the longer nicknames though, it seems to consistently be "Donny". Non-canon sources such as Volume 3 or guest writers from Volume 1 have used "Donnie", but they've also mistaken Donatello for the one that uses katanas, so we know their stuff isn't exactly held to the highest quality assurance by Mirage.

What does this mean? Not a thing. If you want to spell it canonically, it's Donny. If you've been spelling it Donny, pat yourself on the back. If you've been spelling it Donnie, I don't think anyone's twisting your arm to stop now (they still know who you mean).

[GK Punk]

I only use the spelling "Donnie" because I like the way "Ie" looks over "y" at the end. just me being odd though.

[Sewer Bull]

I think we should ask Dan B. about that.

[GK Punk]

I think we should ask Dan B. about that.

We're going to ask Dan B if I prefer 'ie" or "y"? Well then. I guess he has more power than I thought:o

[odupianist]

He'll be saying "Donny" most likely.

[Bevandera]

I think we should ask Dan B. about that.

You can ask him, but since the portions of the website he almost certainly wrote all use "Donny", I can guess what his answer will be.

Donatello's profile - "NICKNAMES: Don, Donny, Don-San"
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/html/profile1.htm

Volume 1: - "Donny finds the bomb in the basement of the building. "
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/volume01/12/12.htm

2K3 Series: - "As Donny and Mikey climb up to join Leo and Raph by the vent..."
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/2003/synopses/26.html

[The Shelf]

I love how we always call on Dan like he's the almighty 8-ball. It's great! :D
That's not sarcasm either. I really think it's funny.

[Bevandera]

It really is. He's very much Peter Laird's Q&A buffer from 'the hordes'.

[The Shelf]

Haha! I love it, "the hordes"! Beware the TMNT Hordes, for nothing can quench their thirst for all things turtle-ish. :ttwisted:

[Bevandera]

It's true though, we're totally a horde...possibly even a horde and a half by now. I emailed him about the most bizarre thing a few months ago...how many people can honestly say they've received an email inquiring if Nathaniel Buscheyev is purely symbolic or someone in particular?

[The Shelf]

Well, I'm not one of them. I don't even know who Nathaniel Buscheyev is...

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Well, I'm not one of them. I don't even know who Nathaniel Buscheyev is...

He's the old man recovering in the "City At War" arc, I believe...

[Cure]

Donnie Darko has an "ie".............

[iris]

So, I decided to go to the source.

Greetings [my name]!

The spelling of doesn't really matter to me, but personally I'd spell
it "Donnie".

Take care,
Donatello

:lol:

Well, there's the official answer from our very own Donatello, via ninjaturtles.com.

I gotta admit, it was fun to see "Don" in my inbox! :tlove: Thank you, professor D! :D

(I redacted my name.)

[The Shelf]

D'oh! Now I'm gonna have to pick a new favorite turtle. :flaming:

Hehehe, just kidding.

But not really...

[Leonardo's_Girl]

I usually call him Don or "Donny" for short, because it refers better to males better than "Donnie" which is more female-fitting.

[bullet]

i go with donnie, cuz it just seems right to me. :)

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Well I go with Donny, 'cuz it just seems right to me. So na nannie boo boo :P

[bullet]

Fight To The Death. Now.

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

:whips out a blade: Bring it, flyboy!

[Jo Dawn]

Greetings [my name]!

The spelling of doesn't really matter to me, but personally I'd spell
it "Donnie".

Take care,
Donatello


Well, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. ;)



...No one ever listens to me. *kicks pebble*

[Roseangelo]

It was spelled Donnie in the movie adaptation comic book.

[Ra]

Well, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. ;)



...No one ever listens to me. *kicks pebble*
Aww...that's not true. I listen! *hugs*

[bullet]

too late. now you die. :D

[Swany]

I prefer Donnie.

Which I find kinda weird considering my name can be either "Y" or "ie" and it's spelt with a Y. And I always get ragin' if people spell it "ie".

Anyhoo, back on topic. "Donnie" just looks better I think.

[Spike Spiegel]

I always thought of it as "Donnie," but I never associated the "ie" with Donatello being gay...

[Magdolin]

But is it Donny, or Donnie? When they are talking to him and abbreviate his name. I'm trying to write fanfic so this is relevant. I can't seem to find any info, and I see both versions almost equally all over the net. At least it's easy with Raph, Leo and Mikey. *rolls eyes* Any offical info?

So if I want to imply that Donatello is GAY... ;)

Thank you Neutrino, that is extremely helpful. *nods*


To me, it's Donnie:roll: . Thats how it should be! And just because he wears purple doesn't mean he's gay! Purple can symbolise intuition and spiritual protection, or royalty. Now bright purple, thats gay.

[Shark_Blade]

Like I said - Donny!



and lol bright purple is gay??:eek: where did that came from?

[Magdolin]

For cryin' out loud! IT'S DONNIE!! Thats how it is! Now get used to it!:x Now what i'm saying is true! if you don't believe me! Go find a guy thats like that and ask him!:x Now, if YOU noticed, his banndana is DARK purple!:x

[Swany]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4715/donnieqq8.jpg

'Cause pictures speak louder than words. (BTW dont expect anymore crappy MS Paint pics. This is a first and last).

[bullet]

there really isn't a distinction between what purple is gay, lol. purple is just the national gay color. but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING purple is gay, it just means that some people will explicitly use purple to convey their identity. i mean, upside down triangle is a symbol for gays too, but are all upside down triangles gay?

we know donnie isn't, lol...so it doesn't matter what color his headband is. a symbol has no meaning unless you give it one.

[Swany]

I thought it was a "pink" triangle.

[bullet]

it is a pink one, but it happens to be upside down so...:P
it could also be any other color, though. mostly pink.

[wyze2099]

I've been spelling it "Donnie" ever since I saw it spelled that way in the TMNT II comic book adaptation back in '92. I actually think the live-action movies were the first incarnation to use the "Donnie" nickname, possibly inspired by the New Kids on the Block member Donnie Wahlberg, who was popular at the time.

In fanfiction, I've seen the spellings "Donnie" and "Donny" used fairly interchangeably, though "Don" is apparently the nickname Donatello prefers. I personally like to think of "Donnie" as a nickname someone else (like Mikey) would give him, while he wouldn't necessarily call himself that. But I doubt it really matters too much to him one way or another. I mean, I bet he'd let April call him whatever she wants. :)

[Spawn Guy]

"Hey sensi...how about Don from now on huh?"


*Pause*

*Shrug* "Don."

*Hug*

[VaughnMichael]

I thought it was a "pink" triangle.
Yeah the pink triangle was given to gay captives by hitler.
It's only really used by Lesbians these days the major gay symbol is either a rainbow strip or box. Or even a rainbow Triangle.

[iris]

I don't understand why people think purple is "the gay color." It's really not. And even if it were, it's ok for things to be purple and not associated with anything. Really.

You rock that color, Donatello. :)

On topic, I think it's quite interesting that "Donatello" is already the familiar form of "Donato." Nobody calls him Donato, right?

[bullet]

I don't understand why people think purple is "the gay color."

perpetrated by society? :P

but yeah like i said, it means nothing unless you choose to associate a meaning to it. same thing with rainbow.

[VaughnMichael]

I don't understand why people think purple is "the gay color." It's really not. And even if it were, it's ok for things to be purple and not associated with anything. Really.

You rock that color, Donatello. :)

On topic, I think it's quite interesting that "Donatello" is already the familiar form of "Donato." Nobody calls him Donato, right?
Yeah I don't understand it either really....if it was pink then yeah I could see that.
Old toon Don just comes off as more gay to me but it could just be more jewish than gay *shruggs* And when I say gay I don't meen happy I mean stereo typical gay. haha actully being this way I'm sure my vision of gay is allot differnt than most others though.:lol:

[bullet]

being gay yourself you probably see it clearer than anyone else. or not, that might also cloud your vision. its all so confusing...

but why jewish? im curious...lol.

[VaughnMichael]

being gay yourself you probably see it clearer than anyone else. or not, that might also cloud your vision. its all so confusing...

but why jewish? im curious...lol.
haha who knows for sure right?!? haha and my favorite color is Aqua Blue but purple comes in a close second and neon pink comes in at a close third choice!
and Jewish well cause the voice his voice actor gives him in the old toon is borderline stereo typical jewish.
I mean look at old whats his face Irmas boy friend the annoying music guy Howie he was pretty much a cartoon of woody allen.:lol:

[Magdolin]

there really isn't a distinction between what purple is gay, lol. purple is just the national gay color. but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING purple is gay, it just means that some people will explicitly use purple to convey their identity. i mean, upside down triangle is a symbol for gays too, but are all upside down triangles gay?

we know donnie isn't, lol...so it doesn't matter what color his headband is. a symbol has no meaning unless you give it one.


Now at least you understood what i was saying. Now this was just an misunderstanding. If we at least talk to each other, we may understand what each other is saying. :) * Shakes hand* And yes, you got his name right. I know you didn't ask that. But i saw it. The proper way to spell it is Donnie......

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

.... Heh. I still spell it Donny.....:evilgrin:

[Cascadia]

On topic, I think it's quite interesting that "Donatello" is already the familiar form of "Donato." Nobody calls him Donato, right?

Actually in one of the first episodes of OT, he was briefly called Donato. But I could be wrong.

[Ava Collier]

If he's gay, can't we just call him Donna?

I don't think Donatello's the one we need to worry about though. Check out Leonardo...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/Spidertroll/doubts.jpg

I know there's something going on between him, and Usagi.

[the fixer]

If he's gay, can't we just call him Donna?

I don't think Donatello's the one we need to worry about though. Check out Leonardo...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/Spidertroll/doubts.jpg

I know there's something going on between him, and Usagi.

LOL!:lol:

:|
I mean... Shame, blasphemers, where is thy blush?

;)

[bullet]

haha leo's all like, "hey donnie check me out!" :P

[TheMunDial]

I go with "Donnie."

What, no Darko fans in the audience?