Three Isn't The Charm Anymore*Movie Sequels*

[Spitfire]

Okay seriously how many 3's are coming out this year? Let alone sequels.

Spider-man 3
Pirates 3
Sherk 3
Fantastic Four 2
Saw 4
TMNT 4
28 Weeks Later
Harry Potter*I don't even know*
Hellboy 2

Maybe this is an old topic but sequels are seriously over running our market. And it seems everyone usually lets us down.

Now sometimes the sequel is better then the first one but that hardly ever happens. And I haven't in the entire history of movies seen a 3rd movie that was better then the other ones in the series.

Some will argue that Return Of The King is the best LOTRs movie but I think Two Towers was better, and since it was all filmed at the same time I don't count them as separate films.

But I got to ask. What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.

[Peanut]

Yeah, yeah. You hate everything. We know. We all know that.

[愛]

I'd rather see something I'm familiar and enjoyed rather than something new that I know nothing about.

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Okay seriously how many 3's are coming out this year? Let alone sequels.

Spider-man 3
Pirates 3
Sherk 3
Fantastic Four 2
Saw 4
TMNT 4
28 Weeks Later
Harry Potter*I don't even know*
Hellboy 2

Maybe this is an old topic but sequels are seriously over running our market. And it seems everyone usually lets us down.

Now sometimes the sequel is better then the first one but that hardly ever happens. And I haven't in the entire history of movies seen a 3rd movie that was better then the other ones in the series.

Some will argue that Return Of The King is the best LOTRs movie but I think Two Towers was better, and since it was all filmed at the same time I don't count them as separate films.

But I got to ask. What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.

I do agree with you on the Two Towers comment, it was my favorite.
I do think movies are overkilled for the almighty dollar most of the time.
I am famous for saying "Someone needs to stop them." This is usually directed to bad Disney sequels but it applies elsewhere.
I hope one day I can take my film and animation knowledge, get hired and do some really awesome independent stuff. In the mean time I will continue going and see every movie I can good or bad, after all if they didn't make bad ones what would we have to b*tch about...:P :D

[Spitfire]

I'd rather see something I'm familiar and enjoyed rather than something new that I know nothing about.

Yeah that was something I thought about I know people like stuff they already know what to expect.

I do agree with you on the Two Towers comment, it was my favorite.
I do think movies are overkilled for the almighty dollar most of the time.
I am famous for saying "Someone needs to stop them." This is usually directed to bad Disney sequels but it applies elsewhere.
I hope one day I can take my film and animation knowledge, get hired and do some really awesome independent stuff. In the mean time I will continue going and see every movie I can good or bad, after all if they didn't make bad ones what would we have to b*tch about...:P :D

Me too, but I watch bad movies to see what they did wrong. That will only strengthen my ability to make movies.

[Peanut]

Christ. Does the world really need another Uwe Boll?

[Tinuvielsdreams]

exactly... You have to know what is bad and what is good.
Learn from other film makers and then go on to make bad ass films.
I love nothing more then to see a film, any film, and talk about it to whoever will listen.

[Spitfire]

Christ. Does the world really need another Uwe Boll?

Being as how my standards are extremely high and I'm insanely anal about perfection I doubt you have anything to worry about.

I don't plan on making movies based off of pre-existing material and espcially video games. I'm all original and I plan on making stuff people haven't seen before. Which will require allot of work because the word original doesn't exist in Hollywood.

exactly... You have to know what is bad and what is good.
Learn from other film makers and then go on to make bad ass films.
I love nothing more then to see a film, any film, and talk about it to whoever will listen.
Exactly, you ever want to chat about movies hit me up on AIM. I could always use someone to chat movies with. It's hard to find someone because most people are entertained by anything so they never have strong opinions.

[ZariusTwo]

So long as a sequel helps a story, it works

When it does'nt, it should'nt be made. Shrek The Third is one such unnecersary sequel that just cheapens the last two because it regurgitates pretty much the same humour, characters, and jokes from the second.

[Voltron]

I don't plan on making movies based off of pre-existing material and espcially video games. I'm all original and I plan on making stuff people haven't seen before. Which will require allot of work because the word original doesn't exist in Hollywood.



Mark his words. One day, you'll be telling your kids how you've spoken with the producer of "Kill Phil," "Triassic Park," "Star Conflict Part I: The Ghostly Danger," and "Duke of the Tennis Bracelets."

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Being as how my standards are extremely high and I'm insanely anal about perfection I doubt you have anything to worry about.

I don't plan on making movies based off of pre-existing material and espcially video games. I'm all original and I plan on making stuff people haven't seen before. Which will require allot of work because the word original doesn't exist in Hollywood.


Exactly, you ever want to chat about movies hit me up on AIM. I could always use someone to chat movies with. It's hard to find someone because most people are entertained by anything so they never have strong opinions.

I read this after I wrote you back. Hell yeah we should chat!

[Peanut]

Exactly, you ever want to chat about movies hit me up on AIM. I could always use someone to chat movies with. It's hard to find someone because most people are entertained by anything so they never have strong opinions.

Dude, you better be careful. If you fall off that f*cking horse, the impact is going to kill you.

[Courk]

Spider-man 3 could have been so much better than it was. The first was good, and while the ending of Spider-man 2 made me chuckle, I remember having an overall positive feeling about that movie.

Pirates 1 = good, Pirates 2 only felt like half of a movie to me, so I'm holding out final judgment until I see Pirates 3, but I did like it for half of a movie.

Harry Potter -- I think the movies are decent. I'm a big fan of the books, so I am disappointed when aspects are changed or when things don't match my imagination. (To me, Sirius is hot. It doesn't really match the descriptions of how he looks in the present in the books, having dealt with everything that's happened, but I don't care.) I prefer the books, but the movies are watchable.

Of course, as a fan of MST3K, I have seen some awful, awful movies. Most main-stream "bad" movies I have seen are nothing compared to those on MST3K. I can think "Wow, that was a bad movie -- Oh, wait, no, Manos was worse."

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay seriously how many 3's are coming out this year? Let alone sequels.

Spider-man 3
Pirates 3
Sherk 3
Fantastic Four 2
Saw 4
TMNT 4
28 Weeks Later
Harry Potter*I don't even know*
Hellboy 2

Maybe this is an old topic but sequels are seriously over running our market. And it seems everyone usually lets us down.

Now sometimes the sequel is better then the first one but that hardly ever happens. And I haven't in the entire history of movies seen a 3rd movie that was better then the other ones in the series.

Some will argue that Return Of The King is the best LOTRs movie but I think Two Towers was better, and since it was all filmed at the same time I don't count them as separate films.

But I got to ask. What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.

Blah blah blah

Dude, you better be careful. If you fall off that f*cking horse, the impact is going to kill you.

That's the greatest line I've ever heard.

[gobo]

Was 'Evan Almighty' mentioned yet? A flaming pile of crap that should be. If Carrey was going to break his "no sequels" policy for anything, that should have been it. Evan was the antagonist in 'Bruce', but now he's a prophet. :roll: And, is 'Rush Hour 3' supposed to be out by year-end?

[Brodie]

Being as how my standards are extremely high

Didn't you like that weird movie about the strange serial killer who killed a cat or something?


Reeeeeeeeaaaallll High, sir.

[Duke]

Which will require allot of work because the word original doesn't exist in Hollywood.You're like that episode of South Park where Butter's minion keeps saying "the Simpsons did it, the Simpsons did it." All you ever seem to say is how nothing is original and everything sucks because it's all been done before.

[ZariusTwo]

Spider-man 3 could have been so much better than it was.

I'd say it's not as bad as people make it out to be. All I've seen are that people did'nt want Spidey dark and brooding (contradicting of course, their love of Lee/Romita and the animated series, which could also be as dark as they wanted to be) or wanted a pile of s*it character in it for more than ten minutes when he probably got his best treatment in any medium besides the animated series.

[Spitfire]

Dude, you better be careful. If you fall off that f*cking horse, the impact is going to kill you.
I'm not worried at all. I scrap my own work all the time when it doesn't meet my standards. I haven't done any artwork recently because every time I sit down to it comes out looking horrible and I refuse to accept that so I delete it.

I don't think I'm the best or better then anyone I just know I won't release anything unless I'm seriously satisfied with it.

Didn't you like that weird movie about the strange serial killer who killed a cat or something?


Reeeeeeeeaaaallll High, sir.
I have no clue what your talking about. If your trying to insult my tastes then pick something I actually said I liked.

Like Silent Hill, which everyone seems to hate. That's a movie I liked for it's art style though and that was pretty much it.

You're like that episode of South Park where Butter's minion keeps saying "the Simpsons did it, the Simpsons did it." All you ever seem to say is how nothing is original and everything sucks because it's all been done before.
If you like monotony fine by me but no need to compare me to an episode of South Park making fun of it's critics claiming it was a Simpsons rip off when SP has been better then Simpsons for years now and is nothing like it.

But thank you to those of you who actually answered my question as opposed to trying to make me look like an ass. I know it's hard to stay on topic and not insult me but I'm sure if you try really hard you could do it.

[Ra]

What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.
I honestly don't mind sequels. They make me chuckle, but will never live up to the original. Pirates 2 springs to my mind instantly when I say that, since I was expecting something that would be as great (if not, greater) than the original. All I got out of it was seeing Geffory Rush eating an apple with juice oozing everywhere, an undead monkey, and Johnny getting to sing "I've got a jar of dirt!". Entertaining, but it just doesn't live up to the original.

I really do hope some original stuff will come out soon. I think I will gag when I see a plot for "Shreak 4" released to the public... :dead:

[VaughnMichael]

You're like that episode of South Park where Butter's minion keeps saying "the Simpsons did it, the Simpsons did it." All you ever seem to say is how nothing is original and everything sucks because it's all been done before.
That's because it's the damn truth almost all movies use the same formula over and over again.

[That Matt Guy]

Now sometimes the sequel is better then the first one but that hardly ever happens. And I haven't in the entire history of movies seen a 3rd movie that was better then the other ones in the series.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

[Mecha Cow]

Was three ever a charm? The only third movies I can think of that were better than the previous two are Return of the King(And only just barely) and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, and neither of those series' are really trilogies.

That being said, I don't mind sequels per se, but I'm not a huge fan of the 'franchise'(Or 'trilogy') fad that's currently sweeping Hollywood where sequels are made for the sake of being made. I guess it will blow over eventually, along with the 'remakes' fad and the 'comic book movies' fad.

[Mandi-chan]

What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.

I love sequels as long as they're as good as (and/or better than) the original movie.

For me.... Pirates 2, Spiderman 2, Spiderman 3, The Mummy Returns, Shrek 2, and Lilo and Stitch 2: Stitch has a Glitch all fall under that category.

I personally LOVED these sequels, I thought they were great and lived up to the originals.

A lot of sequels tend to disappoint me, like Shrek 3, X-Men 2, and X-Men 3 did.

They were okay, but they were just lacking to me.

Then there are sequels made for films that didn't deserve them! Like the upcoming Fantastic Four sequel...why? The first one was absolute garbage, so why is it being rewarded with a sequel?

I love original movies too, and look forward to what Hollywood can dish out (I can't wait to see the movie adaption to "A Great and Terrible Beauty"!)

[gobo]

Back to the Future: Part IV... Just think of the possibilities. ^_^

[Revan]

That's because it's the damn truth almost all movies use the same formula over and over again.

This is borderline but I thought it was interesting

Ecclesiastes 1:9-14 "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun."

[Dinny]

This is borderline but I thought it was interesting

Ecclesiastes 1:9-14 "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun."

I hear what your saying... Passion of the Christ 2: Return of the King of the Jews.

[Barkworm]

Actually Passion 2 is already being filmed.
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[Dinny]

Does it say anything about me that you actually had me convinced until I started watching the video?

[Drtooth]

Isn't it all too common with films that the third in a series is always the weakest? BTTF 3, TMNT 3, stuff like that. The only exception being the Star wars prequals, the third was the best one (and only really enjoyable one).

Sometimes the second film is the best of the trillogy, (BTTF2, for example) but not always. This is because they have already established the characters, and now they can make more story driven plots, vs. character driven. But the third always is the weakest, because they have pure story, and little character developement, not to mention the fact that some things are best left in 2s.

[Mecha Cow]

Hey, for what it's worth, I just saw Pirates 3 and I liked it the best of three. Then again, I'm not a fan of the series and I barely remember the first one...But still.

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Hey, for what it's worth, I just saw Pirates 3 and I liked it the best of three. Then again, I'm not a fan of the series and I barely remember the first one...But still.

I...guess... that's good news? *shrugs*

Actually I'm looking forward to POTC 3, and I've been hearing good things about it. They say it's a big step up from the second movie.

[Voltron]

I thought Return of the Jedi was the best in the series.

[ZariusTwo]

I thought Return of the Jedi was the best in the series.

You closed your eyes whenever the Endor scenes came up?

[Brodie]

I was referring to that Cradle of Filth movie, I think was the title, no?

[Spitfire]

I was referring to that Cradle of Filth movie, I think was the title, no?

Holy crap I totally forgot about that scene.

It's called Cradle Of Fear and no I don't like that movie it's horrible. It's like Rock And Roll Nightmare. Watch it for a good laugh. The only reason I bought it was at the time I was a huge COF fan and I had never seen the movie. I havn't watched that movie in years.

Funny I forgot about it to, I referenced "Ape Rape" the other day and that was from the movie. haha "Ape Rape 100% Gibbon" Oh man that snuff film segment was a riot. Not half as bad as the CGI car crash. If you can call that CGI it looked like a paper cut out moving across a green screen.

[Voltron]

You closed your eyes whenever the Endor scenes came up?

I knew you'd say something. I just knew it.

I liked the movie. A lot. Some of it was cumbersome, but I don't mind. I liked the movie. I felt that the Endor scenes did a lot to tie up the Han/Leia relationship deal.

You may feel the need to say something to me. Defend your point perhaps. Before you do, I want you to understand that I will meet any response you offer with a vicious impersonation of someone who really doesn't give a damn.

[ZariusTwo]

I want you to understand that I will meet any response you offer with a vicious impersonation of someone who really doesn't give a damn.

You mean someone who can't take a joke? I've seen better at the job.

The Han/Leia relationship was handled in "Empire", "ROTJ"'s scenes on Tattonie were a superb epilouge to what was developed there. When it came to Endor, it just served to state the obvious. Leia and Han had no place in the story anymore.

That's actually what I like the best about "Jedi", it's more about Luke, Vader, and Palpatine. Remove the sodding Ewoks and it's a film that only needs two acts to be a masterpeice.

[Voltron]

You mean someone who can't take a joke? I've seen better at the job.

Hahahahahahahaha!:lol:

That cut deep, Zarius. Right through my cybernetic wrist. . .

Now let's get back on topic! GODWIN'S LAW!

[Mandi-chan]

Well...no one said it yet...so I will.

Pirates 3 ROCKED!!!!!!

[VaughnMichael]

Well...no one said it yet...so I will.

Pirates 3 ROCKED!!!!!!
I agree but not everyone liked it this is indeed the first no.3 of any movie I've seriously ever liked.

[Drtooth]

You know... I forgot the most obvious example...

Godfather III....

[gobo]

Uhh... Die Hard 3?? I was surprised they actually showed Scar killing Mufasa (I know he was in DH3 first, but, "Watch it, I'm clownin' here"). Actually, since this is the only one I've ever gotten the chance to see beginning to end or even more than half of, does that even count? :embarass: