Three Isn't The Charm Anymore*Movie Sequels*

*Spitfire* · 05-19-2007, 06:29 PM

Okay seriously how many 3's are coming out this year? Let alone sequels.

Spider-man 3
Pirates 3
Sherk 3
Fantastic Four 2
Saw 4
TMNT 4
28 Weeks Later
Harry Potter*I don't even know*
Hellboy 2

Maybe this is an old topic but sequels are seriously over running our market. And it seems everyone usually lets us down.

Now sometimes the sequel is better then the first one but that hardly ever happens. And I haven't in the entire history of movies seen a 3rd movie that was better then the other ones in the series.

Some will argue that Return Of The King is the best LOTRs movie but I think Two Towers was better, and since it was all filmed at the same time I don't count them as separate films.

But I got to ask. What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.

Peanut · 05-19-2007, 06:31 PM

Yeah, yeah. You hate everything. We know. We all know that.

愛 · 05-19-2007, 06:34 PM

I'd rather see something I'm familiar and enjoyed rather than something new that I know nothing about.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 05-19-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Okay seriously how many 3's are coming out this year? Let alone sequels.

Spider-man 3
Pirates 3
Sherk 3
Fantastic Four 2
Saw 4
TMNT 4
28 Weeks Later
Harry Potter*I don't even know*
Hellboy 2

Maybe this is an old topic but sequels are seriously over running our market. And it seems everyone usually lets us down.

Now sometimes the sequel is better then the first one but that hardly ever happens. And I haven't in the entire history of movies seen a 3rd movie that was better then the other ones in the series.

Some will argue that Return Of The King is the best LOTRs movie but I think Two Towers was better, and since it was all filmed at the same time I don't count them as separate films.

But I got to ask. What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.

I do agree with you on the Two Towers comment, it was my favorite.
I do think movies are overkilled for the almighty dollar most of the time.
I am famous for saying "Someone needs to stop them." This is usually directed to bad Disney sequels but it applies elsewhere.
I hope one day I can take my film and animation knowledge, get hired and do some really awesome independent stuff. In the mean time I will continue going and see every movie I can good or bad, after all if they didn't make bad ones what would we have to b*tch about...

*Spitfire* · 05-19-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai

I'd rather see something I'm familiar and enjoyed rather than something new that I know nothing about.

Yeah that was something I thought about I know people like stuff they already know what to expect.

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Originally Posted by Tinuvielsdreams

I do agree with you on the Two Towers comment, it was my favorite.
I do think movies are overkilled for the almighty dollar most of the time.
I am famous for saying "Someone needs to stop them." This is usually directed to bad Disney sequels but it applies elsewhere.
I hope one day I can take my film and animation knowledge, get hired and do some really awesome independent stuff. In the mean time I will continue going and see every movie I can good or bad, after all if they didn't make bad ones what would we have to b*tch about...

Me too, but I watch bad movies to see what they did wrong. That will only strengthen my ability to make movies.

Peanut · 05-19-2007, 06:40 PM

Christ. Does the world really need another Uwe Boll?

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 05-19-2007, 06:42 PM

exactly... You have to know what is bad and what is good.
Learn from other film makers and then go on to make bad ass films.
I love nothing more then to see a film, any film, and talk about it to whoever will listen.

*Spitfire* · 05-19-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Christ. Does the world really need another Uwe Boll?

Being as how my standards are extremely high and I'm insanely anal about perfection I doubt you have anything to worry about.

I don't plan on making movies based off of pre-existing material and espcially video games. I'm all original and I plan on making stuff people haven't seen before. Which will require allot of work because the word original doesn't exist in Hollywood.

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Originally Posted by Tinuvielsdreams

exactly... You have to know what is bad and what is good.
Learn from other film makers and then go on to make bad ass films.
I love nothing more then to see a film, any film, and talk about it to whoever will listen.

Exactly, you ever want to chat about movies hit me up on AIM. I could always use someone to chat movies with. It's hard to find someone because most people are entertained by anything so they never have strong opinions.

*ZariusTwo* · 05-19-2007, 07:24 PM

So long as a sequel helps a story, it works

When it does'nt, it should'nt be made. Shrek The Third is one such unnecersary sequel that just cheapens the last two because it regurgitates pretty much the same humour, characters, and jokes from the second.

*Voltron* · 05-19-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

I don't plan on making movies based off of pre-existing material and espcially video games. I'm all original and I plan on making stuff people haven't seen before. Which will require allot of work because the word original doesn't exist in Hollywood.

Mark his words. One day, you'll be telling your kids how you've spoken with the producer of "Kill Phil," "Triassic Park," "Star Conflict Part I: The Ghostly Danger," and "Duke of the Tennis Bracelets."

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 05-19-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Being as how my standards are extremely high and I'm insanely anal about perfection I doubt you have anything to worry about.

I don't plan on making movies based off of pre-existing material and espcially video games. I'm all original and I plan on making stuff people haven't seen before. Which will require allot of work because the word original doesn't exist in Hollywood.

Exactly, you ever want to chat about movies hit me up on AIM. I could always use someone to chat movies with. It's hard to find someone because most people are entertained by anything so they never have strong opinions.

I read this after I wrote you back. Hell yeah we should chat!

Peanut · 05-19-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Exactly, you ever want to chat about movies hit me up on AIM. I could always use someone to chat movies with. It's hard to find someone because most people are entertained by anything so they never have strong opinions.

Dude, you better be careful. If you fall off that f*cking horse, the impact is going to kill you.

Courk · 05-19-2007, 08:50 PM

Spider-man 3 could have been so much better than it was. The first was good, and while the ending of Spider-man 2 made me chuckle, I remember having an overall positive feeling about that movie.

Pirates 1 = good, Pirates 2 only felt like half of a movie to me, so I'm holding out final judgment until I see Pirates 3, but I did like it for half of a movie.

Harry Potter -- I think the movies are decent. I'm a big fan of the books, so I am disappointed when aspects are changed or when things don't match my imagination. (To me, Sirius is hot. It doesn't really match the descriptions of how he looks in the present in the books, having dealt with everything that's happened, but I don't care.) I prefer the books, but the movies are watchable.

Of course, as a fan of MST3K, I have seen some awful, awful movies. Most main-stream "bad" movies I have seen are nothing compared to those on MST3K. I can think "Wow, that was a bad movie -- Oh, wait, no, Manos was worse."

**ThirdMarioBro** · 05-19-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Okay seriously how many 3's are coming out this year? Let alone sequels.

Spider-man 3
Pirates 3
Sherk 3
Fantastic Four 2
Saw 4
TMNT 4
28 Weeks Later
Harry Potter*I don't even know*
Hellboy 2

Maybe this is an old topic but sequels are seriously over running our market. And it seems everyone usually lets us down.

Now sometimes the sequel is better then the first one but that hardly ever happens. And I haven't in the entire history of movies seen a 3rd movie that was better then the other ones in the series.

Some will argue that Return Of The King is the best LOTRs movie but I think Two Towers was better, and since it was all filmed at the same time I don't count them as separate films.

But I got to ask. What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.

Blah blah blah

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Dude, you better be careful. If you fall off that f*cking horse, the impact is going to kill you.

That's the greatest line I've ever heard.

*gobo* · 05-19-2007, 09:17 PM

Was 'Evan Almighty' mentioned yet? A flaming pile of crap that should be. If Carrey was going to break his "no sequels" policy for anything, that should have been it. Evan was the antagonist in 'Bruce', but now he's a prophet.

And, is 'Rush Hour 3' supposed to be out by year-end?

*Brodie* · 05-19-2007, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Being as how my standards are extremely high

Didn't you like that weird movie about the strange serial killer who killed a cat or something?

Reeeeeeeeaaaallll High, sir.

*Duke* · 05-19-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Which will require allot of work because the word original doesn't exist in Hollywood.

You're like that episode of South Park where Butter's minion keeps saying "the Simpsons did it, the Simpsons did it." All you ever seem to say is how nothing is original and everything sucks because it's all been done before.

*ZariusTwo* · 05-19-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Courk

Spider-man 3 could have been so much better than it was.

I'd say it's not as bad as people make it out to be. All I've seen are that people did'nt want Spidey dark and brooding (contradicting of course, their love of Lee/Romita and the animated series, which could also be as dark as they wanted to be) or wanted a pile of s*it character in it for more than ten minutes when he probably got his best treatment in any medium besides the animated series.

*Spitfire* · 05-20-2007, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Dude, you better be careful. If you fall off that f*cking horse, the impact is going to kill you.

I'm not worried at all. I scrap my own work all the time when it doesn't meet my standards. I haven't done any artwork recently because every time I sit down to it comes out looking horrible and I refuse to accept that so I delete it.

I don't think I'm the best or better then anyone I just know I won't release anything unless I'm seriously satisfied with it.

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Originally Posted by Brodie

Didn't you like that weird movie about the strange serial killer who killed a cat or something?

Reeeeeeeeaaaallll High, sir.

I have no clue what your talking about. If your trying to insult my tastes then pick something I actually said I liked.

Like Silent Hill, which everyone seems to hate. That's a movie I liked for it's art style though and that was pretty much it.

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Originally Posted by Duke

You're like that episode of South Park where Butter's minion keeps saying "the Simpsons did it, the Simpsons did it." All you ever seem to say is how nothing is original and everything sucks because it's all been done before.

If you like monotony fine by me but no need to compare me to an episode of South Park making fun of it's critics claiming it was a Simpsons rip off when SP has been better then Simpsons for years now and is nothing like it.

But thank you to those of you who actually answered my question as opposed to trying to make me look like an ass. I know it's hard to stay on topic and not insult me but I'm sure if you try really hard you could do it.

Ra · 05-20-2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious.

I honestly don't mind sequels. They make me chuckle, but will never live up to the original. Pirates 2 springs to my mind instantly when I say that, since I was expecting something that would be as great (if not, greater) than the original. All I got out of it was seeing Geffory Rush eating an apple with juice oozing everywhere, an undead monkey, and Johnny getting to sing "I've got a jar of dirt!". Entertaining, but it just doesn't live up to the original.

I really do hope some original stuff will come out soon. I think I will gag when I see a plot for "Shreak 4" released to the public...

05-19-2007, 06:29 PM	#1
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Three Isn't The Charm AnymoreMovie Sequels Okay seriously how many 3's are coming out this year? Let alone sequels. Spider-man 3 Pirates 3 Sherk 3 Fantastic Four 2 Saw 4 TMNT 4 28 Weeks Later Harry PotterI don't even know Hellboy 2 Maybe this is an old topic but sequels are seriously over running our market. And it seems everyone usually lets us down. Now sometimes the sequel is better then the first one but that hardly ever happens. And I haven't in the entire history of movies seen a 3rd movie that was better then the other ones in the series. Some will argue that Return Of The King is the best LOTRs movie but I think Two Towers was better, and since it was all filmed at the same time I don't count them as separate films. But I got to ask. What do you guys think about this? I mean do you guys enjoy sequels or do you want to see some more original stuff? I think how I feel is pretty obvious. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

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ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	So long as a sequel helps a story, it works When it does'nt, it should'nt be made. Shrek The Third is one such unnecersary sequel that just cheapens the last two because it regurgitates pretty much the same humour, characters, and jokes from the second. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

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gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Was 'Evan Almighty' mentioned yet? A flaming pile of crap that should be. If Carrey was going to break his "no sequels" policy for anything, that should have been it. Evan was the antagonist in 'Bruce', but now he's a prophet. And, is 'Rush Hour 3' supposed to be out by year-end? __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell. Last edited by gobo; 05-19-2007 at 11:30 PM.

05-19-2007, 06:31 PM	#2
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yeah, yeah. You hate everything. We know. We all know that.

05-19-2007, 06:34 PM	#3
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	I'd rather see something I'm familiar and enjoyed rather than something new that I know nothing about.

05-19-2007, 06:40 PM	#6
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Christ. Does the world really need another Uwe Boll?

05-19-2007, 06:42 PM	#7
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	exactly... You have to know what is bad and what is good. Learn from other film makers and then go on to make bad ass films. I love nothing more then to see a film, any film, and talk about it to whoever will listen.

05-19-2007, 08:50 PM	#13
Courk Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 321	Spider-man 3 could have been so much better than it was. The first was good, and while the ending of Spider-man 2 made me chuckle, I remember having an overall positive feeling about that movie. Pirates 1 = good, Pirates 2 only felt like half of a movie to me, so I'm holding out final judgment until I see Pirates 3, but I did like it for half of a movie. Harry Potter -- I think the movies are decent. I'm a big fan of the books, so I am disappointed when aspects are changed or when things don't match my imagination. (To me, Sirius is hot. It doesn't really match the descriptions of how he looks in the present in the books, having dealt with everything that's happened, but I don't care.) I prefer the books, but the movies are watchable. Of course, as a fan of MST3K, I have seen some awful, awful movies. Most main-stream "bad" movies I have seen are nothing compared to those on MST3K. I can think "Wow, that was a bad movie -- Oh, wait, no, Manos was worse."