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odupianist
05-07-2008, 07:38 AM
I thought that was a great quote to tie in him becoming Two Face.

Ra
05-08-2008, 03:36 AM
That Two-Face is FRICKIN' AWESOME!!

I need to see this movie. Like, now. Right now. I CAN'T WAIT ANY MORE!!!!!! *flips out*

Spitfire
05-08-2008, 03:38 AM
I'm with you there I haven't been THIS excited about a movie in a long ass time.

Ra
05-08-2008, 03:44 AM
Indeed. The last one I was this hyped about was TMNT, but that can't even compare to the excitment I'm feeling now just looking at those photos.

This movie is just going to be frickin' epic.

odupianist
05-08-2008, 10:18 AM
I was/am more excited for Iron Man than this movie, go ahead, throw the apples now

Raven
06-06-2008, 02:39 PM
Iron has nothing on this, Iron was just a warm up!

Now here is some new footage, a behind the scenes look at how the clown masks where made and another Imax feature.

http://www.comcast.net/thedarkknightmovie/

Photos

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/DCMarvelRPG/The%20Joker/Bats.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/DCMarvelRPG/The%20Joker/Batman14-1.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/BatmanRPG/The%20Dark%20Knight/Batman12.jpg

Raven
06-13-2008, 04:37 PM
NEW TRAILER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65zKQYpjpiE&eurl=http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7342

ToTheNines
06-13-2008, 05:29 PM
NEW TRAILER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65zKQYpjpiE&eurl=http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7342

DAMN! That was my favorite one so far! I'm getting so pumped for this movie.

Just some speculation, but

Who else thinks that Two-face is gonna end up killing the Joker?

Raven
06-14-2008, 12:08 AM
This viral campiagn is just amazing!

Gotham Tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWRebzgSOos


Its currently playing on Comcast, I believe another one should be showing up in two weeks.

Enjoy!

Ra
06-14-2008, 01:19 AM
This is just beyond awesome. Great find Raven! :D

The Stryker
06-14-2008, 04:51 AM
I can't be the only guy who's looking forward to Two-face more than Joker.

Two-face's origin is one of the most interesting things I have ever read.

ToTheNines
06-14-2008, 07:57 AM
Does anyone know anything interesting as far as Harley Quinn rumors go?

Mr._Mutant_Man
06-14-2008, 08:00 AM
I can't be the only guy who's looking forward to Two-face more than Joker.

Two-face's origin is one of the most interesting things I have ever read.

Which origin? There's been a few, but they're all great. Before Long Halloween, they retold Two-Face's origin in one of the Batman Annuals.

So if that trailer is any indication,

Two-Face's origin looks similar to that of the Animated Series, in that an explosion might cost him half of his face?

cqb101
06-14-2008, 08:12 AM
Does anyone know anything interesting as far as Harley Quinn rumors go?

She's not in the movie.

ToTheNines
06-14-2008, 08:23 AM
She's not in the movie.

I didn't think she'd be, but I've been reading all kinds of stuff lately. I can see her having a cameo as just some female member of Joker's gang, and that's it.

The Stryker
06-14-2008, 10:07 PM
Which origin? There's been a few, but they're all great. Before Long Halloween, they retold Two-Face's origin in one of the Batman Annuals.

So if that trailer is any indication,

Two-Face's origin looks similar to that of the Animated Series, in that an explosion might cost him half of his face?

Well the whole story of his psyche breaking down because of the constant crime, I like it better than guy falls in acid decides to be clown and runs rampant. Long Halloween is definately the best telling of his origin though.

(BTW, I love Joker but between origin stories, Two-face has the slight edge.)

Cure
06-14-2008, 10:23 PM
(BTW, I love Joker but between origin stories, Two-face has the slight edge.)

I can agree with that.

Raven
06-16-2008, 08:51 PM
Well the pizza shop in Gotham has opened for business, and like always some one has left us a gift.

http://www.gothamcitypizzeria.com/

Go over the screen, once you see a HA jump up quick CLICK ON It!


You wont regret it!


And for any one who missed the Gotham Tonight show its up here.

http://gothamcablenews.com/gotham_tonight.aspx

Tinuvielsdreams
06-18-2008, 12:48 PM
haha that is soo cool! My work connection sucks so I have to watch it again at home

Ra
06-19-2008, 03:34 AM
Good god, I hope we aren't being spoiled too much. :cry: It's still worth it though.

ThirdMarioBro
06-19-2008, 04:24 AM
Haven't read anything in this thread, and don't intend to. All I've seen is the trailer, and that may have been too much. I want to be totally blown away by this movie. I've got midnight tickets reserved for the day after E3. :)

ToTheNines
06-20-2008, 08:24 PM
Leaked info about the run-time:

It's gonna be 152 minutes long

http://movies.ign.com/articles/881/881617p1.html

ToTheNines
06-22-2008, 09:33 PM
A couple things I'd like to discuss. (Not even spoilers, but I know alot of people don't wan't to hear anything about this flick. This is mostly old stuff anyways.)

About the Joker
Do you guys think he'll die at the end, if you know anything please don't spoil it, but speculations are always welcome. Anyways, I doubt they'd recast him since Ledger is dead now, but I think they killed him off anyways.

About Gordon's offspring
Apparently he has a young son in this movie, when I heard the baby screaming at his appartment in Begins I figured it was Barbara. Now I don't expect them to have Batgirl, and I don't really want them to, but to just have a little Barbara would be nice... and I don't remember Jim ever having a son in any continuity.

Raph's Girl
06-22-2008, 10:55 PM
About Gordon's offspring
Apparently he has a young son in this movie, when I heard the baby screaming at his appartment in Begins I figured it was Barbara. Now I don't expect them to have Batgirl, and I don't really want them to, but to just have a little Barbara would be nice... and I don't remember Jim ever having a son in any continuity.

Pre-Crisis he has 2 kids: Anthony and Barbara. Post-Crisis he has a son named James Gordon Jr while Barbara becomes his niece whom he eventually adopts after the deaths of her parents when she's around 12 years old (altho she STILL might be his biological daughter from an affair with his brother's wife *lol*). Barbara is named after James Gordon's wife, whom he eventually divorced. Barbara Sr and James Jr moved to Chicago after the divorce. Oh.. just looked and a local kid is playing James jr. He's 10. I just can't believe it's been that many years between films...oy... This is the kid's website --> http://www.nathan-gamble.com/

ToTheNines
06-23-2008, 04:28 PM
Pre-Crisis he has 2 kids: Anthony and Barbara. Post-Crisis he has a son named James Gordon Jr while Barbara becomes his niece whom he eventually adopts after the deaths of her parents when she's around 12 years old (altho she STILL might be his biological daughter from an affair with his brother's wife *lol*). Barbara is named after James Gordon's wife, whom he eventually divorced. Barbara Sr and James Jr moved to Chicago after the divorce. Oh.. just looked and a local kid is playing James jr. He's 10. I just can't believe it's been that many years between films...oy... This is the kid's website --> http://www.nathan-gamble.com/

Oh, well I don't think the time span between films will be that big. So mabey the baby was Barb after all! And thanks for all the info about the Gordon family tree.

ToTheNines
06-25-2008, 07:07 PM
Two more things: Who do you think the villians are gonna be in the next movie? I can't really imagine any of the other Batman baddies fitting into Nolan's movies, Bane mabey... I'm pretty sure Two-Face will be in in part 3, it's possible that he'll be the only villian. The character certainly deserves it considering the few (about eight) episodes he got from the DCAU and his total omission from The Batman

And what in the world could the name of the sequel be? The Caped Crusader or The Worlds Greatest Detective :lol:

EDIT: The Dark Knight Returns would be a good one, obviously. But when putting the 3 titles together Batman Begins would look out of place... but it dosen't really matter.

ToTheNines
06-26-2008, 06:34 PM
Excuse the triple post but alot of new pics:

Not really spoilers, but I'm sure not everyone wants to see these yet
I love Caine as Alfred so much
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/884/884606/the-dark-knight-20080626110539552_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/884/884606/the-dark-knight-20080626110604927_640w.jpg
Some one knows Bruce's secret lol
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/884/884606/the-dark-knight-20080626110557661_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/884/884606/the-dark-knight-20080626110546286_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/884/884606/the-dark-knight-20080626110600974_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/884/884606/the-dark-knight-20080626110619130_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/884/884606/the-dark-knight-20080626110614239_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/884/884606/the-dark-knight-20080626110550255_640w.jpg


A good bit more at IGN.com

Raph's Girl
06-27-2008, 12:10 PM
Well we got some casting news:

Barbara Gordon, wife of James Gordon Sr and mother of James Gordon Jr, is played by actress Melinda McGraw.

http://www.melinda-mcgraw.com/

Also Cillian Murphy returns as Scarecrow!

cqb101
06-27-2008, 12:16 PM
Also Cillian Murphy returns as Scarecrow!

I'm pretty sure we've known that since, like, before the movie even started filming.

ToTheNines
06-27-2008, 07:31 PM
Here's a fan made thingy of the Joker messing with a Dark Knight trailer. It's not bad but the only reason I'm posting it is because I don't recognize some of the footage, so I guess it might be new.

There's an f-bomb, so uh... cover you're ears.
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Hannah
06-27-2008, 07:33 PM
Maggie Gyllenhaal is THE cutest thing on the planet.

ToTheNines
06-27-2008, 07:49 PM
Maggie Gyllenhaal is THE cutest thing on the planet.

I know, I'm actually glad she replaced Holmes.

Raph's Girl
06-27-2008, 09:10 PM
I'm pretty sure we've known that since, like, before the movie even started filming.

Yes well they've now officially confirmed it. Before it was more or less rumours.

cqb101
06-27-2008, 09:27 PM
Yes well they've now officially confirmed it. Before it was more or less rumours.

I'm sorry, but how is just now confirmed? There were pictures of him during filming that popped up months ago. If that's not confirmation, you're going to have to clarify for me what is.

Raven
06-29-2008, 02:38 PM
Yes well they've now officially confirmed it. Before it was more or less rumours.

Right, because the video from filming in Chicago where we all first learned of his return way back in August was a rumor...right because no one saw that :roll:

ToTheNines
06-30-2008, 04:12 PM
Early review give The Dark Knight a perfect 10:
http://movies.ign.com/articles/884/884876p2.html

This son of a bitch got to see it 20 days early... grrrrr. Anyways, good review with really no spoilers (very light one about the Joker on page 2).

Mecha Cow
06-30-2008, 04:38 PM
When IGN gets an exclusive review it's best to take the score with a huge pile of salt.

Cure
06-30-2008, 05:00 PM
Rolling Stone gave it pretty sweet score (http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight), too.

Mecha Cow
06-30-2008, 05:31 PM
Oh, I'm certainly not doubting that the movie will be (is) fantastic, just wanted to point out that a 10 from IGN means very little.

Jester
06-30-2008, 06:53 PM
I swear Peter Trevers has ever seen a movie he didn't like. :P Or at least most of the movies I loathe he's reviewed well.

ToTheNines
07-01-2008, 07:06 PM
Head on over to IGN, they have clips of it up now! I remember when they did this for TMNT, it was so exciting... but this is even better.

cqb101
07-02-2008, 01:50 PM
Batman Bale Says No To Robin1 July 2008 11:49 PM, PDT


Batman star Christian Bale has declared he will quit the comic book movie franchise if producers ever decide to reintroduce the caped crusader's sidekick Robin.

Bale took on the role of the legendary action hero in 2005's Batman Begins and will be seen again in The Dark Knight, which is due for release later this month.

But the actor is hoping that the character of Robin is not brought back into any of future Batman movies - because he will resign in protest.

He says, "If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films, I'll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work."

Awesome. This just makes me love Bale even more.

VaughnMichael
07-02-2008, 02:11 PM
I love how stars think movies especially ones like these based on comics are all about them.:roll:
I'd say mmk nice knowin' ya Bale, hate to see ya Bale out but Robin will come along.:P
Casting we're gonna need another Batman!

Spitfire
07-02-2008, 02:17 PM
Go Bale, I don't need to see Robin anyways. I don't think he needs to even worry since there was only a plan to make 3 movies and that was it. Any made after that weren't going to be by Nolan.

cqb101
07-02-2008, 02:21 PM
I love how stars think movies especially ones like these based on comics are all about them.:roll:
I'd say mmk nice knowin' ya Bale, hate to see ya Bale out but Robin will come along.:P
Casting we're gonna need another Batman!

...and if Robin does come along I will guarantee you not only Bale, but Nolan will jump ship as well, and there goes the franchise. The studio isn;t stupid enough to force a Robin into this series, especially when he'll feel so out of place.

Tinuvielsdreams
07-02-2008, 02:23 PM
If they "insist" on bringing Robin in why not go with a night wing type film at least.
This did make me laugh though, I like Christian Bale more and more...
He's starting to sound like Tom Jane

ToTheNines
07-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Awesome. This just makes me love Bale even more.

I've heard rumors that The Riddler is gonna be in the 3rd one and Dick has always been cooler than him. I mean he might have some insignifcant role and I know that Nolan won't have him draped in question marks, but I still don't see how it would work.

Ra
07-02-2008, 06:35 PM
Riddler? Ohmaigawd I can feel the Batman fan in me flipping out. Riddler, Scarecrow, Joker, and Two-Face? This movie series is really going to spoil me as a Batman fan.

I can actually see Riddler without his question marks. Probably in his elegant green business suit and bowler hat with a cane. 'Cause he's cool like that. If he gets introduced in Batman III, I'll be really interested to see how he gets thrown into the story.
And holy crapola I just realised that the movie is coming out in two weeks. May I stress that point? TWO WEEKS!!!

*flips out*

ToTheNines
07-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Riddler? Ohmaigawd I can feel the Batman fan in me flipping out. Riddler, Scarecrow, Joker, and Two-Face? This movie series is really going to spoil me as a Batman fan.

I can actually see Riddler without his question marks. Probably in his elegant green business suit and bowler hat with a cane. 'Cause he's cool like that. If he gets introduced in Batman III, I'll be really interested to see how he gets thrown into the story.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I just read where that rumor came from (and it might be true but here's what I deduct from it):
Some one asked Gary Oldman if they would re-cast for the Joker in part-3, Oldman says "Mabey we don't need the Joker because we'll have the Riddler"

Personally, I take that as a joke. But then again, I didn't hear how he delivered it. Plus I don't want him at all, so mabey it's just me making excuses to myself... He's fine for the cartoons, but the nature of his crimes never came off as threatening to me (He wasn't beyond murder, but still kinda silly... but not in a Joker way).

The Stryker
07-03-2008, 03:25 PM
Even if that was a Joke.

I would be happy to see Riddler done right in a movie. Sure he's a big step down from Joker but he's a interesting character in his own right.

ToTheNines
07-03-2008, 07:19 PM
Even if that was a Joke.

I would be happy to see Riddler done right in a movie. Sure he's a big step down from Joker but he's a interesting character in his own right.

Well I just don't see how he could pose a threat to Gotham (as a main villian).

I mean Ra's Al Ghul, I don't even have to say anything.
Scarecrow was just a pawn.
Joker is taking over most of the gangs.
Two-Face is (from what I've gathered) fueling the fire to the gang violence.

Then you have E. Nygma, the geek who got laid off by one of those dirty capitalists. I liked him in the cartoon, I'm just not feelin it for the films (I doubt he could even hold an animted movie, he never even appeared in a Timm flick).

But anyways, I haven't even seen TDK yet, I need to quit worrying about the (non)future of this series and enjoy what I can.

Hannah
07-04-2008, 01:05 PM
"Apparently, Michael Bay wrote an unsolicited script for The Dark Knight that was ultimately rejected by Warner Bros. Though this is the first I’ve heard of it, I have the exclusive leaked images to back it up.

Here are some choice excerpts."

http://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show?id=947994%3ABlogPost%3A355506


Cue AC/DC's "Back in Black." A series of quick shots show BRUCE gearing up: putting on the boots, slapping on the gloves, a brief glance across those beautiful pecs. Finally, there is no longer BRUCE WAYNE, but BATMAN standing before us.

BATMAN
Back in black.

Pyrotechnics erupt in the distance. Guitar solo.

...lol


EDIT: Sorry if this has already been posted, I'm too lazy to look.

cqb101
07-04-2008, 01:24 PM
"Apparently, Michael Bay wrote an unsolicited script for The Dark Knight that was ultimately rejected by Warner Bros. Though this is the first I’ve heard of it, I have the exclusive leaked images to back it up.

Here are some choice excerpts."

http://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show?id=947994%3ABlogPost%3A355506




...lol


EDIT: Sorry if this has already been posted, I'm too lazy to look.

Anybody who doesn't realize that's a joke is a ****ing idiot.

It is kind of funny. Thought I am kind of getting sick of Michael bay bashing.

Hannah
07-04-2008, 01:27 PM
Uh... I knew it was a joke. I just thought it was funny?

Jester
07-04-2008, 01:27 PM
Anybody who doesn't realize that's a joke is a ****ing idiot.

It is kind of funny. Thought I am kind of getting sick of Michael bay bashing.
That wasn't real...

*head esploded*

cqb101
07-04-2008, 01:30 PM
Uh... I knew it was a joke. I just thought it was funny?

Sorry, I wasn;t referring to you, just people in general. I've seen people on other message boards thinking it was real.

Spitfire
07-04-2008, 04:53 PM
Wow, I hate Bay as much as the next guy but that was a pretty bad joke. It's easier to make fun of him for his first film being a porno movie.

ZariusTwo
07-04-2008, 06:34 PM
Surely that script was for the All-Star Batman version?

Raph's Girl
07-05-2008, 07:12 AM
Well this should be good news. Apperantly Christian Bale has said that he'll flat out quit if Robin ever appears in any of his Batman films. :lol:

"If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films, I'll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work," Bale told Starpulse. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/smileys/Guffaw.gif

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/07/02/batman_bale_says_no_to_robin_

cqb101
07-05-2008, 07:50 AM
Well this should be good news. Apperantly Christian Bale has said that he'll flat out quit if Robin ever appears in any of his Batman films. :lol:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/smileys/Guffaw.gif

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/07/02/batman_bale_says_no_to_robin_

Already been posted.

Raph's Girl
07-05-2008, 08:08 AM
Already been posted.

Huh?? It has??? *looks about* Oh...bunts! Ah well...it's still fraking hilarious all the same. :lol:

ToTheNines
07-06-2008, 09:25 AM
Here's an exclusive Dominos Pizza trailer, I realy recommend watching it:
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(Just speculation, but you probably shouldn't read this)
The way Joker talks in this trailer, I'd say he finds out the Batman is Bruce.

Huh?? It has??? *looks about* Oh...bunts! Ah well...it's still fraking hilarious all the same. :lol:

What's so funny about him saying he'd quit the series just because the big-wigs might want to include an established character from every other single medium of Batman? I know every one thinks he'd be "out of place", but I thought the same thing about Scarecrow and Joker... they obviously turned out well. Plus I loved Robin in Batman: TAS and his solo comics.

ToTheNines
07-06-2008, 12:31 PM
Mr. J lookin for Big Bad Harv (don't mind the Spanish intro)
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Trailer from the Batman Begins Gift-set, WATCH THIS ONE! It's the best yet
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odupianist
07-07-2008, 08:26 AM
hahaha "Half"

Tinuvielsdreams
07-07-2008, 08:25 PM
hahaha yeah that made me laugh..."Half"
That scene or maybe scenes in the interrogation room between Batman and Joker look pretty intense.
That was awesome trailer. I can not stop looking at these! Only a couple weeks to go :D

ToTheNines
07-09-2008, 07:05 PM
http://www.comcast.net/thedarkknightmovie/

Good bit of exclusive stuff here, other than that nothing new.

ToTheNines
07-11-2008, 08:08 PM
http://www.gothamcablenews.com/

New Gotham Tonight thingy, they interview Dent himself in this one!

Jester
07-11-2008, 08:12 PM
Is the anchor....Anthony Michael Hall??

*squints*

ToTheNines
07-11-2008, 09:07 PM
Is the anchor....Anthony Michael Hall??

*squints*

Yeah, he's rumored to be the Riddler in the sequel (I can't see him doing it, let alone see the Riddler in Nolans movies) but he's actually in the film.

I don't believe this but imbd.com says: He finds out Bruce's secret and is about to air it until Joker threatens to blow up the station

Sounds like somthing an 8 year old would do if he wrote the movie, which is why I think it's fake.

Jester
07-11-2008, 09:46 PM
IMDB is like Wikipedia, take what it says with a grain of salt, since any schmuck can change it.

ToTheNines
07-14-2008, 06:53 PM
http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/752133/the-dark-knight/videos/darkknight_ints_071508.html

8 minute interview with Nolan, Bale, Gyllenhal, Eckhary and Oldman. Good stuff.

cqb101
07-16-2008, 09:15 AM
Seeing it tonight at midnight, can't wait!

Tinuvielsdreams
07-16-2008, 09:42 AM
Seeing it tonight at midnight, can't wait!

Oh man Jealous! Where are you able to see it tonight. I have tix for midnight tomorrow

cqb101
07-16-2008, 09:51 AM
Oh man Jealous! Where are you able to see it tonight. I have tix for midnight tomorrow

I work as a projectionist at a movie theater so I get paid to screen it tonight to make sure it's not a damaged print or anything.

Jester
07-16-2008, 12:51 PM
Have I ever told you that I hate you? :P

Tinuvielsdreams
07-16-2008, 01:00 PM
He is just soo lucky, but he who sees it first better keep spoilers away! :P

cqb101
07-16-2008, 01:06 PM
Have I ever told you that I hate you? :P

Probably. :P

ToTheNines
07-16-2008, 05:04 PM
I work as a projectionist at a movie theater so I get paid to screen it tonight to make sure it's not a damaged print or anything.

How's the pay?

I can't see the movie for atleast 4 days after the release, it's sold out already.

The Stryker
07-17-2008, 01:35 AM
Anybody just want the movie to be released already so people can shut the hell up about it?

cqb101
07-17-2008, 02:00 AM
Just got back from seeing the movie. I didn't think it would live up to all the hype, but it really did.

Holy ****. Awesome.


And the Watchmen trailer kicked all kinds of ass.

Tinuvielsdreams
07-17-2008, 08:15 AM
Just got back from seeing the movie. I didn't think it would live up to all the hype, but it really did.

Holy ****. Awesome.


And the Watchmen trailer kicked all kinds of ass.

I saw a very short and luckily no-spoiler review this morning in the philly metro, I couldn't help but give it a quick peek
Basically the review said the same thing you just did. I am counting down the hours until midnight!

ToTheNines
07-17-2008, 04:01 PM
Anybody just want the movie to be released already so people can shut the hell up about it?

Partially. I'm sick of hearing retarded morning talk show hosts say dumb stuff about Batman every morning before work.

ToTheNines
07-18-2008, 03:54 PM
With out spoiling too much, can someone tell me if there were any allusions to the villain for part 3 other than Joker or Two-Face? Like a riddle at the end, or Gordon telling Bats about a new drug called venom.

cqb101
07-18-2008, 04:27 PM
With out spoiling too much, can someone tell me if there were any allusions to the villain for part 3 other than Joker or Two-Face? Like a riddle at the end, or Gordon telling Bats about a new drug called venom.

No

Most people seem to think Two-Face will return.

Spitfire
07-18-2008, 05:09 PM
The person I saw it with included.

I don't feel I need to say much more then Hollywood's still got it. The movie met and exceeded expectations.

VaughnMichael
07-18-2008, 06:03 PM
The person I saw it with included.

I don't feel I need to say much more then Hollywood's still got it. The movie met and exceeded expectations.
Mine to man I just got in from this movie and damn it was good!
We need more movies like this! Shame TMNT will never be taken in this sort of direction.
Anyone who says Ledger wasn't amazing as joker is kidding themselves, the man was brilliant and it's a damn shame he's gone.

Jester
07-18-2008, 10:18 PM
Great comic book movie. Heck, great movie, period.

ToTheNines
07-18-2008, 10:32 PM
Regis didn't like it, now I don't wanna see it :(

OA
07-18-2008, 10:47 PM
Just got back from an 8:30 showing. What a great, great movie. And yes, Heath as the Joker was amazing! Completely stole the show as far as I'm concerned. Too bad we won't be seeing anymore of him.

Jester
07-18-2008, 10:50 PM
maybe he pulled a Jim Gordon...wink wink...

Warhorse
07-18-2008, 11:39 PM
So, is it better than Batman Begins? I'm going to see it tomorrow. I'm being dragged by my cousins and friends. At first, I wasn't going to see it, but then they said Harry Potter trailer is with it, and Gary Oldman, whom I am a fan of, is in it, and it looked good in the trailers, so wth, it's only 10 bucks and a way to escape the hot Florida sun. But, for someone who didn't like Batman Begins, could this film changer their minds? I at first thought X-Men sucked, but when the sequel came out, that one was made way better, and made me a fan. I really didn't like Batman begins because I didn't like the acting from Christian Bale or Katie Holmes. Not saying I dont like Christian, loved him in films like Reign of Fire, Newsies and 3:10 to Yuma, but for some reason, he bugged the hell out of me with his voice in BB and American Psycho. So, is it better in this film?

cqb101
07-19-2008, 12:15 AM
So, is it better than Batman Begins? I'm going to see it tomorrow. I'm being dragged by my cousins and friends. At first, I wasn't going to see it, but then they said Harry Potter trailer is with it, and Gary Oldman, whom I am a fan of, is in it, and it looked good in the trailers, so wth, it's only 10 bucks and a way to escape the hot Florida sun. But, for someone who didn't like Batman Begins, could this film changer their minds? I at first thought X-Men sucked, but when the sequel came out, that one was made way better, and made me a fan. I really didn't like Batman begins because I didn't like the acting from Christian Bale or Katie Holmes. Not saying I dont like Christian, loved him in films like Reign of Fire, Newsies and 3:10 to Yuma, but for some reason, he bugged the hell out of me with his voice in BB and American Psycho. So, is it better in this film?

Far better than Batman Begins. Harry Potter teaser is less than 30 seconds long and only attached to IMAX prints, Katie Holmes has been replaced with the far superior Maggie Gyllenhaal. I can't stand Christian Bale's Batman voice, but he makes an awesome Bruce Wayne.

Also, if you like the cartoony, cheesiness of Burton's movies and the extremely over-the-top Joker Nicholson portrayed, you'll probably dislike TDK. It's a much more dramatic, deeper, realistic, thought provoking film. Parts of it really hit you in the gut and make you question your own morals.

VaughnMichael
07-19-2008, 12:25 AM
I can't stand Christian Bale's Batman voice, but he makes an awesome Bruce Wayne.
My friends and I all said the same thing, what in the hell is up with that voice it sounds so forced. ugh!

Warhorse
07-19-2008, 12:43 AM
Far better than Batman Begins. Harry Potter teaser is less than 30 seconds long and only attached to IMAX prints, Katie Holmes has been replaced with the far superior Maggie Gyllenhaal. I can't stand Christian Bale's Batman voice, but he makes an awesome Bruce Wayne.

Also, if you like the cartoony, cheesiness of Burton's movies and the extremely over-the-top Joker Nicholson portrayed, you'll probably dislike TDK. It's a much more dramatic, deeper, realistic, thought provoking film. Parts of it really hit you in the gut and make you question your own morals.

That's what I was getting at, Christian's voice as Batman. But he's still nice to look at!;) But yeah, I'm going to see it on IMAX, so I'm glad to hear that there is a HP trailer stuck with it.

As for the 89 Batman, see, Batman is cheese. A rich, full grown man dressed in tights trying to represent a bat is kind of cheesy in it's full context, and there isn't anything in there to really make it, what am I looking for, to make me take it serious.

I wonder, have you ever watched Dogma?

cqb101
07-19-2008, 12:49 AM
As for the 89 Batman, see, Batman is cheese. A rich, full grown man dressed in tights trying to represent a bat is kind of cheesy in it's full context, and there isn't anything in there to really make it, what am I looking for, to make me take it serious.

I wonder, have you ever watched Dogma?

And that's exactly what Nolan's films do- they take the cheese out of Batman. They show that he doesn;t have to be ridiculous, that he can be grounded in reality and be somewhat plausible. That you can still have more than the basic concept of the character and yet make it something deeper and more serious.

Mind you, I have nothing against Burton's Batman films, they're good for what they are - cheesy fun. But give me Nolan's gritty, thought provoking, down-to-earth crime drama Batman over those any day of the week.

As a fan of film first and Batman second, I'll takes Nolan's films, which aren't just good comic book movies, they aren't just good Batman movies, they're excellent films in their own right.

And yes, I have seen Dogma. Many times.

Zog the Equalizer
07-19-2008, 12:53 AM
I saw this at midnight last night and again at 9 tonight, but this is the first time I've had access to a computer. I only got three hours of sleep because I had to get up early this morning for my college orientation and was exhausted all day, but It was totally worth it. This movie is amazing!

Voltron
07-19-2008, 02:22 AM
I thought everything worked really well. This was fantastic for all the reasons Superman Returns (to suck) wasn't.

Jester
07-19-2008, 06:44 AM
If it's guilty of anything, it's having a little too much story.

ToTheNines
07-19-2008, 07:42 AM
My friends and I all said the same thing, what in the hell is up with that voice it sounds so forced. ugh!

I like it. He's trying to conceal his identity for one, plus one of his main weapons is fear, and that's a scary voice.

Spike Spiegel
07-19-2008, 08:03 AM
I like it. He's trying to conceal his identity for one, plus one of his main weapons is fear, and that's a scary voice.

Exactly what I thought when he interrogated Scarecrow in Begins...

VaughnMichael
07-19-2008, 10:47 AM
I like it. He's trying to conceal his identity for one, plus one of his main weapons is fear, and that's a scary voice.
I know that nines that's pretty obvious to anyone with even half a brain.
Doesn't mean it's good though it sounds like he's trying to sound like another batman we know I think that's why it bothered so many of us.
I also don't find the voice to be scary, but hey I'm not a crazed gotham villian lol
I don't remember him doing this in the last movie either but it's been some time since I watched Batman Begins. *shruggs*
They seriously got me though with the whole Gorden being killed thing, I was so happy he wasn't.
I also was like the Joker better not touch Alfred when he walked into that dinner party and Alfred was standing right there at the door..

Warhorse
07-19-2008, 11:40 AM
As a fan of film first and Batman second, I'll takes Nolan's films, which aren't just good comic book movies, they aren't just good Batman movies, they're excellent films in their own right.

And yes, I have seen Dogma. Many times.

Ok, so I'm seeing things in a better light. I'm one of the few in the world, that when a movie is released that was based on the book, I tend to like the movie's version than the book. Especially when it comes to Stephen King's stuff. The Firestarter book compared to the movie, to me, was repulsive.

That being said, if Nolan was trying to get Batman Begins serious and gritty, I couldn't see it. When Scarecrow came on the horse with Batman drugged up, my friends and I laughed histerically. It was one of the most bizarre and hilarious things I ever seen. He was trying to be scary, but ended up being really funny. I just dont take movies seriously. Hell, I LMFAO in Silence of the Lambs, which got me several dirty looks from the audience, but it was funny when the Buffalo Bill went nuts when the girl had his dog.

Only movie I can recall that kind of scared me, and has me think twice in going into the ocean, is Jaws.

But that aside, what was fun about Batman for me wasn't the characters, but his gadgets. How are the new "BATMAN HOTRODS" and all that other stuff?

Voltron
07-19-2008, 11:59 AM
But that aside, what was fun about Batman for me wasn't the characters, but his gadgets. How are the new "BATMAN HOTRODS" and all that other stuff?

To be honest, you can tell they skimped on the FX budget. At one point you could actually tell that the city was made out of cardboard and legos, and when Batman flew by, it was clearly an action figure.

Also, Bale just had a cellphone that he pretended was everything he needed. Batarangs, grapling hooks. I think the most pathetic part of the film was when he raised his "grapling hook" and made the noise with his mouth. Nothing flew out either. In the next scene, a batman action figure was being dragged up a lego building by floss.

Nolan was really off his game.

JetsAndHeels
07-19-2008, 01:00 PM
This was fantastic for all the reasons Superman Returns (to suck) wasn't.

And what were those reasons exactly?

cqb101
07-19-2008, 05:31 PM
Ok, so I'm seeing things in a better light. I'm one of the few in the world, that when a movie is released that was based on the book, I tend to like the movie's version than the book. Especially when it comes to Stephen King's stuff. The Firestarter book compared to the movie, to me, was repulsive.

That being said, if Nolan was trying to get Batman Begins serious and gritty, I couldn't see it. When Scarecrow came on the horse with Batman drugged up, my friends and I laughed histerically. It was one of the most bizarre and hilarious things I ever seen. He was trying to be scary, but ended up being really funny. I just dont take movies seriously. Hell, I LMFAO in Silence of the Lambs, which got me several dirty looks from the audience, but it was funny when the Buffalo Bill went nuts when the girl had his dog.

Only movie I can recall that kind of scared me, and has me think twice in going into the ocean, is Jaws.

But that aside, what was fun about Batman for me wasn't the characters, but his gadgets. How are the new "BATMAN HOTRODS" and all that other stuff?

If you laugh at Silence of the Lambs, there's no hope for you.

And what were those reasons exactly?

I could sit here all night listing the reasons why Superman Returns sucked, but because I have a life, I won't.

Cure
07-19-2008, 07:16 PM
Yeah, Superman Returns was nowhere near as exciting as it could have been. It was boring as hell.

Spitfire
07-19-2008, 07:27 PM
I know that nines that's pretty obvious to anyone with even half a brain.
Doesn't mean it's good though it sounds like he's trying to sound like another batman we know I think that's why it bothered so many of us.
I also don't find the voice to be scary, but hey I'm not a crazed gotham villian lol
I don't remember him doing this in the last movie either but it's been some time since I watched Batman Begins. *shruggs*

He does it in Begins. He's got some hardcore flem going on in this movie though. I think he does more to steer people away from recognizing his voice. He got a little overboard with it though in this movie.

cqb101
07-19-2008, 07:43 PM
Yeah, Superman Returns was nowhere near as exciting as it could have been. It was boring as hell.

Not only boring as hell, it was just a poorly made film.

Warhorse
07-19-2008, 10:51 PM
If you laugh at Silence of the Lambs, there's no hope for you.

Why, because I can tell the difference between reality and fiction, so it's very easy for me to not take movies and books unless they are documentaries seriously?

I don't get disturbed easily, what can I tell you?

But that aside, just got done watching the Dark Knight. It was a very entertaining film, but Joker wasn't scary. He was extrememly amusing, and I loved the pencil part. That one had me and the whole audience laughing. "Hey, check out this dissappearing trick I can do with this pencil. WHAM! Well, look at that, it dissappeared!;)

I also really couldn't stand Christian Bale's voice as Batman He talked like either a smoker or someone coming over a really bad cold. Nolan either needs to stop it, or he may have to get someone else to voice as Batman while Christian Bale does the stunts/Bruce Wayne part.

The surprise for me though, wasn't Heath Ledger, Christian Bale or Gary Oldman, but Aaron Eckhart. He was fantastic! And he was the one that stole this movie in my opinion.

So, I give this movie a thumbs up. I think it's over-rated, and I still think the first Batman was more enjoyable, but I had fun, and will see this one again. Probably will own it when it is released on dvd. It was definitely a dramatic improvement over Batman Begins.

odupianist
07-19-2008, 10:55 PM
The voice annoys the hell out of me as well, but I can see why he does it. As for the third villan, I haven't seen TDK yet (I know I know, I plan on it Monday), but I heard the Riddler was rumored for it.

Warhorse
07-19-2008, 11:03 PM
^It was hard for me to understand what he was trying to say because everytime he talked as Batman, the audience would start to burst out laughing and mimic him. So alot of his dialogue I missed.

Cure
07-19-2008, 11:34 PM
^It was hard for me to understand what he was trying to say because everytime he talked as Batman, the audience would start to burst out laughing and mimic him. So alot of his dialogue I missed.

Sounds like your kinda people then.

Warhorse
07-19-2008, 11:53 PM
^Yep. I laughed too because he sounded so retarded that way. The movie was funny, what can I say?

Funny thing was, of all of the parts for the people to start cheering and clapping at, it was this one scene when Gordon had The Joker from behind after we all thought he was dead. That was a good scene, he got a standing ovation for that one!

Another scene we all thought was funny as hell was the part when the Joker was dressed in the nurse drag outfit. And then he was outside fiddeling with the buttons on the detonator. Had me in stitches. Also, there was one funny scene, well, more from an audience member reaction, when Rachel kissed Bruce, someone coughed out "Whore" That one had the audience tickled funny!

Voltron
07-20-2008, 02:32 AM
The voice annoys the hell out of me as well, but I can see why he does it. As for the third villan, I haven't seen TDK yet (I know I know, I plan on it Monday), but I heard the Riddler was rumored for it.


After this, who could they put? No one will ever be as threatening as the Joker and still fit within the realistic confines Nolan is working with. I think that any forray into Mr. Freeze/Ra's Al Ghul Lazarus pit super-villainy would be jumping the shark, and that anyone other than the Joker doesn't seem to pack the same cinematic punch as other members of the Rogue's Gallery.

I'm interested to see where they take this!

Ra
07-20-2008, 05:32 AM
Just came back from seeing it. Best movie of the year so far.

Joker was the highlight for me. Not overplayed or underplayed anywhere, and just plain scary. Never thought that someone could play Joker so calm and still come off with this aura of insanity radiating from him. Dent was just awesome as well.
I don't like how the burns came off in terms of colour and texture, but it still works for Dent's transformation into Two-Face. That was my biggest concern for the entire movie, and I shouldn't have worried. Great work from flipping between a stable, strong leader and a completely irrational man who just takes every opportunity he can to leave things to chance.

Seeing how some of those schemes were pulled off was just brilliant for me, for both villains in the movie. :)

I loved the pencil part. That one had me and the whole audience laughing. "Hey, check out this dissappearing trick I can do with this pencil. WHAM! Well, look at that, it dissappeared!;)
SO agreeing with that. That and Joker walking out of the hospital casually in drag and trying to set off the bomb. It was just beautiful to see the guy doing his stuff. :lol:

As for possible future villains...Riddler and Penguin would be where I'm putting my money. More realistic for the psychosocial tones that the movie series sets off.

cqb101
07-20-2008, 10:00 AM
Why, because I can tell the difference between reality and fiction, so it's very easy for me to not take movies and books unless they are documentaries seriously?

I don't get disturbed easily, what can I tell you?


No, because it's quite obvious you can't appreciate film as an art form.

JetsAndHeels
07-20-2008, 11:13 AM
I could sit here all night listing the reasons why Superman Returns sucked, but because I have a life, I won't.

I was interested in what the reasons were...I love Superman Returns, but mostly it is because I am biased to the character.

GK Punk
07-20-2008, 11:24 AM
I loved it too, but it did have it's issues.

JetsAndHeels
07-20-2008, 11:26 AM
I loved it too, but it did have it's issues.

Oh yeah, no denying that. I'm not that biased. :)

Warhorse
07-20-2008, 11:46 AM
No, because it's quite obvious you can't appreciate film as an art form.


I can't appreciate something as an art form if I can't see it as an art form. Movies, television shows and books all do the same thing, they tell stories, some are good, some are bad, some are not good or bad, but are meant for particular people who it reaches out to.

For the most part, movies for me either tell stories, or they are a way for me to get out of the real world and have some fun. And I will admit, I do fancy the horror and gory stuff. After thinking about it, too bad TDK wasn't rated R, it could have been oh so much better.

If I had to think of a movie that could be considered art, then it would have to be LOTR flicks and The Black Stallion, but those movies are in a totally different class of movies compared to The Dark Knight all together.

But the Dark Knight, fun movie, it had some nice visuals of the city, and the backdrop did look like Chicago. It had the messages that corruption is a nasty disease that is destroying people. But as some mind changing, blowing theatrical piece of artistic magic, no, it wasn't. Lot of the stuff in there is pretty much, been there/done that sort of thing for me. The only genuine surprise, or thing I have never seen before, was the pencil part.

But it is still a fun movie. I recommend people to go see it, just don't take a large coke with you to the theater like I did. That was uncomfortable.

And you'll like the pencil part! Also, Harvey Dent was well played by Aaron Eckhart, and the semi truck part was real cool too! And if you don't laugh or at least snicker at the nurse part, you take life way to serious, and I fear, you may have some ulcers and may have to have them checked out.

Brodie
07-20-2008, 12:02 PM
Who the **** can down a large theater coke?

This movie was amazing. This was the type of movie I wanted when I went to see the Spider-Man movies. I wanted a great movie, and those movies didn't deliver. This film is far superior to any of those.

Now, if only they had the effects budget of Howard the Duck.

ToTheNines
07-20-2008, 01:30 PM
After this, who could they put? No one will ever be as threatening as the Joker and still fit within the realistic confines Nolan is working with.

BANE! That's about all I can come up with other than Talia.

poiuytre
07-20-2008, 01:38 PM
Finally got around seeing it. I liked it, but I'm afraid I got sucked into the pre-release hype and expected more. All in all, I think I prefer Begins. I do have to commend Ledger for a very convincing Joker. He really brought the character to life and washed away the bitter taste of Nicholson's version.

After this, who could they put?
I agree it's going to have to go downhill after the Joker. He was the series' iconic villain. Maybe the Penguin or the Riddler can make an appearance, but they're harder to pull off in the serious tone the new movies are trying to use.

Mecha Cow
07-20-2008, 02:06 PM
After this, who could they put?
Batzarro is the obvious answer.

Hannah
07-20-2008, 02:44 PM
I saw it yesterday. I was worried that Heath's performance was overly hyped up... but he was absolutely AMAZING. I have no idea how else to put it. He stole the show.

And although the movie managed to stay well-paced and interesting throughout the 2 1/2 hours, once Harvey became Two Face it felt a little rushed. It was kind of like "What did you call me? SAY IT! TWO FACE! olol I'm dead now."
Regardless, I will definitely see it again while it's in theaters, and I rarely do that. It's an excellent movie.

Warhorse
07-20-2008, 02:46 PM
Who the **** can down a large theater coke?

Well, let's see, I arrived for the 7:55 showing at 6:55. It's hot, I live down here in Florida where it is a muggy 95 degrees, so once I got out of the stuffy parking garage and into the movie theater complex, I was dehydrated, so bought a coke.

We ended up standing in line for a good 45 minutes before they finally let us in. Then the movie itself, after twenty minutes worth of movie trailers, was 2:30 long, had plenty of time to down a large coke, even though I really downed about 3/4 of the way.

But I didn't want to miss a thing from the movie, so I held it till the end of the flick.

Sewer Bull
07-20-2008, 03:25 PM
Hell, I LMFAO in Silence of the Lambs, which got me several dirty looks from the audience, but it was funny when the Buffalo Bill went nuts when the girl had his dog.

... WHAT?!

No one laughs at Buffalo Bull in my presence and lives...

*headshot*

Tinuvielsdreams
07-20-2008, 03:44 PM
They seriously got me though with the whole Gorden being killed thing, I was so happy he wasn't.
I also was like the Joker better not touch Alfred when he walked into that dinner party and Alfred was standing right there at the door..

I read that...
Michael Caine did have some lines during that scene but it was also the first time he had seen Ledger as the Joker. Apparently he was so startled by joker he forgot his lines and they didn't bother doing them. I am not sure how true that is but it was an interesting read

I saw it at Midnight opening night and have been trying to see it again in IMAX all weekend but no luck there :(
I saw everyone commenting on Christian's Batman voice. I actually just wanted Batman Begins and yeah I think he was a little more exaggerated in Dark Knight but I think a few of his scenes his emotions were running high and he was really pissed off like when
he thought Gordon was dead

Did anyone else wonder
How Harvey as Two Face rolled the mobsters car and came out of it fine? Were we to assume the mobsters died? I mean yeah he could have been seat belted in but geesh the guy was already missing half his face.

Cure
07-20-2008, 04:08 PM
Did anyone else wonder
How Harvey as Two Face rolled the mobsters car and came out of it fine? Were we to assume the mobsters died? I mean yeah he could have been seat belted in but geesh the guy was already missing half his face.

You see him put the seat belt on just before, so I assume the other guy didn't have his on. Remember, seat belts save lives, even those of crazed half dead supervillains.

Raph's Girl
07-20-2008, 04:12 PM
Well just got back from seeing Dark Knight and I have to say that I absolutly loved it. It's definatly one of my fave Batman movies now. Definatly up there with Mask of the Phantasm.

In regards to Christian Bale's Batman voice...it sounded to me like he had laryngitis.

Man tho when Jim Gordon "died" I was like "WTF?! Oh NO they didn't!!" I had tears in my eyes. And when he came back the audience cheered and clapped.

Fave scenes:

The dissapearing pencil :lol:
Joker in Drag had the whole audience laughing.


A Confusing thing tho.
Ok thruought the movie we saw Barbara Sr and James Jr. And then all of the sudden Commissioner Gordon*damn that's a quick way thru the ranks* gets a call saying the KIDS are in trouble. And I was like "Kids?? Huh??" and POOF all of the sudden Gordon's got a daughter!! WTF?! In the credits she's simply listed as Gordon's daughter. Was that supposed to be Barbara jr??? That was the only time we saw her. TwoFace didn't even acknowledge her while she cowered and we barely saw her face. :ohwell:

Oh and did anybody else get the teaser trailer for Terminator Salvation in front of Dark Knight??? When I saw the trailer the other day I was thinking "Man it would be funny if this was attached to Dark Knight since Bale is in it..." and sure enough it was! :lol:

VaughnMichael
07-20-2008, 04:35 PM
You see him put the seat belt on just before, so I assume the other guy didn't have his on. Remember, seat belts save lives, even those of crazed half dead supervillains.
Not always cure, my mother was in a horrible car accident and went over a hill back in 2000 she didn't have her belt on and she was ejected through the window and her car was smashed.
They (the police and dr's) said that if she did have it on she would have been decapitated and crushed along with the car.
So why am I bringing this up well for one I saw this movie with my mom the only person who would go see it and I'm damn happy to have her around, two it just goes to show you it's all on chance I guess you can be killed if you have it off and killed if you have it on.

cqb101
07-20-2008, 04:51 PM
Oh and did anybody else get the teaser trailer for Terminator Salvation in front of Dark Knight??? When I saw the trailer the other day I was thinking "Man it would be funny if this was attached to Dark Knight since Bale is in it..." and sure enough it was! :lol:

It's attached to the first reel of the film, so it plays at every theater. News of it being attached (along with Watchmen and Body of Lies) came out over a week ago.

Mandi-chan
07-20-2008, 06:32 PM
Just got back from seeing it.

I thought the first movie was f*cking amazing, and this one was even better! God, I hope the writer and director of this films keeps doing them and no one else takes over...cause they know what the hell they're doing.

ThirdMarioBro
07-20-2008, 07:00 PM
I've seen it three times now. Once at the ArcLight in LA after E3 with the crew (midnight showing FTW!), once here at home a the local IMAX with the family, and again by myself because I'm so obsessed with the movie.

Greatest film I've ever seen.

GK Punk
07-20-2008, 09:40 PM
I saw it yesterday. I was worried that Heath's performance was overly hyped up... but he was absolutely AMAZING. I have no idea how else to put it. He stole the show.

And although the movie managed to stay well-paced and interesting throughout the 2 1/2 hours, once Harvey became Two Face it felt a little rushed. It was kind of like "What did you call me? SAY IT! TWO FACE! olol I'm dead now."
Regardless, I will definitely see it again while it's in theaters, and I rarely do that. It's an excellent movie.

you basically summed up exactly how I felt about the movie.

Tinuvielsdreams
07-20-2008, 10:42 PM
You see him put the seat belt on just before, so I assume the other guy didn't have his on. Remember, seat belts save lives, even those of crazed half dead supervillains.

Yeah I actually caught that when I just saw the movie again this evening.
Seat belt or not that was pretty extreme :lol:

Shredder
07-21-2008, 01:30 AM
I saw it Friday night. Loved it. Great performances and an all-around excellent film.

The Stryker
07-21-2008, 02:45 AM
Saw it and loved it.

Personally though, Eckhart > Ledger.

cqb101
07-21-2008, 08:24 AM
Saw it and loved it.

Personally though, Eckhart > Ledger.

I don't know if I would say that, but people do seem to be over-looking a great performance from Eckhart.

That Matt Guy
07-21-2008, 09:18 AM
saw it last night, and yeah good movie. not the best movie ever though like a lot of people are acting. too bad two face died instead of joker because... yeah.

Dr. Doom
07-21-2008, 03:20 PM
I saw it 3 times in three days. First at midgnight early friday morning, again at 12:50 saturday afternoon and a third time at 11:50 am yesterday. I guess that gave me a good opportunity to think about what I was seeing. It's kinda strange in that it felt like Batman was really only a smaller part of something bigger, instead of being the central figure of the movie, like you would expect, but he really was only one peice of the puzzle. Heath Ledger, Gary Oldman and Aaron Eckhart were all absolutely outstanding and conspired equally along with Mr. Bale to make this easily the best superhero movie out there, and a top notch film altogether. Easily one of my favorites by now. I wouldn't want to place anyone's performance over anyone else's, I suppose. They were all equally important to the final product.

The only complaint I have about the movie is that I couldn't stop recognizing Chicago, and it really didn't feel like this was taking place in the incredibly vivid Gotham City that we've all come to know as this dark, forboding presence all it's own. Granted, this is not an issue that I see people who aren't from around here having, but I think I could also say objectively that they didn't make the city itself quite as expressive in this as in previous endeavors.

ToTheNines
07-21-2008, 03:23 PM
Personally though, Eckhart > Ledger.


Idk about that, I haven't seen it yet but the Joker is a harder character to pull off than Harvey/Two-face. I'm goin tommorow night tho, so I can tell you for sure.

*spoiler removed*

Dude... what the funk?

Raph's Girl
07-21-2008, 03:54 PM
*spoiler removed*

SOMEBODY forgot to put a spoiler space on! :P

Dr. Doom
07-21-2008, 04:00 PM
That's why I've avoided this thread for months up until now.

ToTheNines
07-21-2008, 04:05 PM
That's why I've avoided this thread for months up until now.

Yeah, I know I'm a dumbass for coming here, but I can't help it. Still, he's the only person who hasn't used the spoiler feature.

That Matt Guy
07-21-2008, 08:59 PM
its because i dont care.

GK Punk
07-21-2008, 09:14 PM
Saw it and loved it.

Personally though, Eckhart > Ledger.

I wouldn't agree with that, I think Ledger's performance surprised me (In a good way.) I got lost in his character. He wasn't Ledger, he was the Joker. But Yeah, Eckhart was ****ing amazing as Dent/Two-Face as well. So I can't fault you for thinking that.

Warhorse
07-21-2008, 11:22 PM
Saw it and loved it.

Personally though, Eckhart > Ledger.


I agree, he surprised me. I think he's got a great future ahead of him. I remember him outshining everyone in The Black Dahlia.

Talked about this movie at work. One guy pointed out another funny ass scene. After the semi get's flipped, when Joker comes out all dis-oriented, and he stumbles for a minute, shooting off his shot gun by mistake, we all started laughing our asses off remembering that one!

And remember the stupid little things, such as the "You complete me line!" and "Will the real Batman please stand up!":D

cqb101
07-22-2008, 12:09 AM
I agree, he surprised me. I think he's got a great future ahead of him.

Ya, I think he's got a big future ahead of him. I've been a fan of his since Thank Your for Smoking.

Just saw it a 3rd time. Just as good every time.

I still get chills when Batman breaks down the door, sees Harvey lying there, realizes it's not Rachel, and Harvey starts screaming "No! You weren't suppose to save me!". So ****ed up. I love it.

Raph's Girl
07-22-2008, 12:21 AM
And remember the stupid little things, such as the "You complete me line!" and "Will the real Batman please stand up!":D

Yeah all those got chuckles in the audience. When he said "You complete me!" I was thinking "You had him at AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..." :lol:

GK Punk
07-22-2008, 12:26 AM
I still get chills when Batman breaks down the door, sees Harvey lying there, realizes it's not Rachel, and Harvey starts screaming "No! You weren't suppose to save me!". So ****ed up. I love it.

Oh dude, I know. I wasn't even expecting it to go down like that at all. The movie actually tripped me up during a few scenes.

Ra
07-22-2008, 05:48 AM
Man, I know what you mean.

Joker in prison, the fairy boats, and the "save Rachael, save Dent" scenes were all awesome in that way though. Probably why I loved this movie so much. Mind warping, for the win!

odupianist
07-22-2008, 07:56 AM
saw it last night. it was a really good movie. i think it was a bit too hyped up. i think eckhart did just as good as ledger in their respective roles. the detonator and the speech joker gives hanging upside down were my favorite parts. his speech was so true because him and batman really do go on forever. without batman, there is no joker and vice versa. vicious circle.

The only complaint I have about the movie is that I couldn't stop recognizing Chicago, and it really didn't feel like this was taking place in the incredibly vivid Gotham City that we've all come to know as this dark, forboding presence all it's own

hahah I couldn't agree more. everytime batman was driving thru some lower part of the town or something i recognized, i heard jake and elwood blues...

"this is definitely lower wacker drive"
"richard j daley plaza" "that's where theyve got that picasso"

stuff like that.

as for the villian in the third movie, i think the riddler would work. he'd a more hitech version of the joker for this series. i see it as being more of an intuitive thing moreso than the mind **** that the joker gave, if that makes sense.

That Matt Guy
07-22-2008, 09:44 AM
i think if they do a riddler who actually presents a threat instead of being a giggling idiot, then it would work. kinda like the riddler in the 90's cartoon.

what else do they have? killer croc, clayface, or the mad hatter? dont know if they would fit in right. i would like to see any of them though.

Dr. Doom
07-22-2008, 05:12 PM
It's hard to imagine anyone causing as much chaos as The Joker did. To top that, I think the next movie would probably have to deal closely with a more personal struggle and have that be the center.

Cure
07-22-2008, 11:05 PM
SOMEBODY forgot to put a spoiler space on! :P

Yeah, like you've never forgotten to do so.

cqb101
07-22-2008, 11:49 PM
Yeah, like you've never forgotten to do so.

:lol:

Plus, he helped pay for this forum, he can do whatever he wants.:P

Warhorse
07-23-2008, 12:30 AM
What is this story I've been hearing on the radio about Christian Bale got arrested in London for some sort of assult charges, then let go? He never appeared to me to be the angry sort.

Raph's Girl
07-23-2008, 06:23 AM
What is this story I've been hearing on the radio about Christian Bale got arrested in London for some sort of assult charges, then let go? He never appeared to me to be the angry sort.

Look at the current events portion of the forum. I started a thread on the subject. He reportadly attacked his mom and sister on Sunday but is of course denying the whole incident.

odupianist
07-23-2008, 08:23 AM
At least he stuck to his Batman honor code and didn't kill them... too soon?

Anyways, one other note, what the heck is up with superheros questioning their superheroism by their second movie...?

Spike Spiegel
07-23-2008, 09:18 AM
Ha ha, Christian got out on bail...

Raph's Girl
07-23-2008, 03:26 PM
Ha ha, Christian got out on bail...

Actually he was never charged. He went voluntarily and spent 4 hours being interrigated.

ThirdMarioBro
07-23-2008, 03:28 PM
The only complaint I have about the movie is that I couldn't stop recognizing Chicago, and it really didn't feel like this was taking place in the incredibly vivid Gotham City that we've all come to know as this dark, forboding presence all it's own

I didn't really have a problem with that. Gotham always seemed like a larger, alternate reality version of Chicago anyway.

ToTheNines
07-23-2008, 03:36 PM
Saw it last night, and I can honestly say that it was the best Batman story that I've ever seen/read. I wasn't expecting the Joker to be as funny as he was, they really struck a great balance between his humor and all the drama, I was torn between laughing and cringing the whole time.

its because i dont care.

Normally I'd say "**** you" or "I hope you choke on jenkem", but the movie was damn good anyways. I'm glad they had him die, it made the ending so much better, plus this version of him wouldn't be that good of a "full-time" villain. He probably would have turned himself in had he lived.

As for a sequel, I think it would be best to not make one. If they do it with Nolan and everyone, then I guess they could kill off the Joker in a DTV movie like Gotham Knight or keep him locked up (Just dont recast him!). Or they could just get a new director/writer/cast and go from there.

Warhorse
07-23-2008, 04:37 PM
At least he stuck to his Batman honor code and didn't kill them... too soon?

Anyways, one other note, what the heck is up with superheros questioning their superheroism by their second movie...?


Have you also realized alot of your heroes, may them be superheroes or not, tend to not be raised by their paternal perents?

I don't know what to make of this. Right now, I am going to presume Christian to be innocent. Like I said, he doesn't exactly appear to be a mean man. That's Russell Crowe's department!

ToTheNines
07-23-2008, 05:26 PM
Forgot to add my two gripes:
Not enough Alfred, though that parts he was in were great.
I didn't like the way that Scarecrow acted, enough said on that.

Also, I read a review that said the Joker explains his scars 3 times, but I only remember 2 (not counting when he almost told Batman). Did I miss something?

odupianist
07-24-2008, 08:01 AM
He explains it to the mobsters, Rachel, and Batman, right?

Tinuvielsdreams
07-24-2008, 08:56 AM
He explains it to the mobsters, Rachel, and Batman, right?
He didn't get to tell batman his story...
Batman says "No, but I know how you got these scars" and he shoot the spikes from his armor on his arm at the Joker

I did read somewhere that he did have a third story so maybe it was cut?

KROW
07-24-2008, 10:40 AM
Saw it yesterday and I really can't say what hasn't been said already. I loved it. I really didn't understand what was up with Bale's choice of upping the rasp in his voice. Half the time I couldn't understand what the hell he was saying. His speech to Harvey near the end seemed more comical than heartfelt because of it.

Despite that, the film was phenomenal.

I like Joker's explanations about his face. It's kind of a way to tell folks that there really is no concrete origin of the Joker. Speaking of faces, I was at first afraid of what Harvey was going to look like after the incident that took half his face away. But once it appeared, I thought, "That is so awesome."

I want to see this again big time. Great flick.

Dr. Doom
07-24-2008, 10:54 AM
I actually really like how Scarecrow just showed up briefly and is still floating around Gotham as a regular old villain

Darth Shredder
07-24-2008, 11:15 AM
I liked that also, Dr. Doom. It felt like the comics and Animated Series. In Batman Begins, there are only regular criminals initially. By the time TDK rolls around, there's freaks all over Gotham that I think Batman faces everytime he hits the streets. THAT is the part of the Batman mythos I love. Gotham City is basically a circus freak show, and Batman almost has to become one of them if he stands any chance.

I absolutely love TDK. Heath Ledger's death holds much more weight for me after seeing it, because now I think every fan feels a bit cheated by fate that we won't hear any Ledger commentary on his role after the release. I would have loved to see him back for a sequel, and also interviews with the other cast members.

RIP Heath Ledger.

"You and I could do this forever!"

ToTheNines
07-24-2008, 04:28 PM
I actually really like how Scarecrow just showed up briefly and is still floating around Gotham as a regular old villain

I liked that too, I'm just talking about the way he spoke and moved about.

ZariusTwo
07-24-2008, 09:29 PM
The Dark Knight was one of the truest Batman movies period. Twists that you don't see coming, duality concepts, psychologicl warfare that incorporated familiar characters and made heroes and villains out of minor ones


The ending was the kick in the balls the Batman mythos needed... an encouaragement of the notion that vigilainstism is nothing to glorify...that Batman is destined to be an opposition to control so long as that control lingers...who knows if the next movie will follow up on the "Sons of the Bat" concept hinted at in the beggining with copycats.

Ledger signified his career with a legendary role with legit concerns, indulgences, and opinions of the world. He need not appear again...he did what the character should always do...he lit the match, now all he'll do is indulge in it, watching the world and money burn, etching another scar on his face.

Thanks to the trailers...the twist of Gordon being "killed off" early in the movie compleltly pissed me off because I knew it was a snare to capture The Joker...but then the other twists came, such as Gordon's family being snatched. I truly expected Gordon to turn on Batman by the film's conclusion based on losing his family, not by Batman's own insistence he stick to the reality there living in.

I also loved that they kept the guy who was terrorized with Bruce's identity made it through the movie...it'll be interesting how long the guy can stay quiet.

Batman without Fox, relying on what he has, with a city now split into factions makes for a fresh third movie and an ongoing challenge for every character opposed to the rising crime levels, making them more interesting and more heroic in their own ways.

For a third movie, The Penguin will likely play the role he was meant to have in the rumoured original story, and he'd have a much larger role thanks to

Harvey's death

cqb101
07-25-2008, 01:40 AM
Batman without Fox, relying on what he has, with a city now split into factions makes for a fresh third movie and an ongoing challenge for every character opposed to the rising crime levels, making them more interesting and more heroic in their own ways.[/spoiler]




Ummmm...

Why without Fox? I'm sure Fox will still be helping him out.

Dr. Doom
07-25-2008, 11:38 AM
I think that part was a little unclear. Fox had said he was resigning, because he didn't want to be at the company with the sonar thing there. But since it's destroyed at the end, I suppose he could have changed his mind. Obviously it was never clarified.

I dunno how I feel about the Penguin, thinking about it initially. I suppose it would all come down to how he's portrayed, but as he is, he doesn't really seem right for this movie universe. I'm open to anything, though. Remember how we all felt when Heath Ledger first got cast?

cqb101
07-25-2008, 11:58 AM
I think that part was a little unclear. Fox had said he was resigning, because he didn't want to be at the company with the sonar thing there. But since it's destroyed at the end, I suppose he could have changed his mind. Obviously it was never clarified.

I dunno how I feel about the Penguin, thinking about it initially. I suppose it would all come down to how he's portrayed, but as he is, he doesn't really seem right for this movie universe. I'm open to anything, though. Remember how we all felt when Heath Ledger first got cast?

He said as long as the sonar equipment was in a Wayne building (something along those lines), he would resign. He typed his name in at the end, destroying the equipment so I assume he didn't resign.

Mecha Cow
07-25-2008, 12:08 PM
Fox ain't quitting. His "faith was rewarded" and he walked away from the ruined sonar setup with a smile on his face.

ToTheNines
07-25-2008, 03:52 PM
I also loved that they kept the guy who was terrorized with Bruce's identity made it through the movie...it'll be interesting how long the guy can stay quiet.

I don't think he'll be a factor, did you see the look he gave Bruce when he realized that Bruce saved his ass even tho he was about to ruin his life?

As for the next villain, I've totally changed my mind on the Riddler
Since the cops will be cracking down on Batman, who better for them to call in to discover his identity other than Edwayd Nigma?

And I'd like to see Bane, just because.

ZariusTwo
07-25-2008, 05:19 PM
I dunno how I feel about the Penguin, thinking about it initially. I suppose it would all come down to how he's portrayed, but as he is, he doesn't really seem right for this movie universe.

I think he would be...even if the role is exceptionally minimal. To be honest, the character isnt doing much in the comics now anyway, it wouldnt hurt to use him in the way he is now, more of a weapons dealer with aversions of an armchair philsopher, observing the madness where as The Joker's philsophies more or less cause it

ToTheNines
07-25-2008, 07:45 PM
I loved the way Penguin was treated in The New Batman Adventures. He was human, and wasn't really an active criminal, but he had that cool lounge and did some illegal stuff behind the scenes there. He still made bird puns just for some comic relief, but just cut that and you have a perfect Cobblepot.

raphael_is_cool
07-26-2008, 03:19 PM
Man, this film was awesome. Definitely gonna go see it in IMAX as well.

While there were so many great moments, my favourite that I don't think anyone's mentioned was:

Lt. James Gordon: That was a very brave thing you did, Wayne.
Bruce Wayne: What, trying to catch the light?
Lt. James Gordon: You mean you weren't protecting the van?
Bruce Wayne: Why? Who's in it?...Do you think I should go to a hospital?

Jo269976
07-27-2008, 11:21 AM
I know this has been said many, many times but Heath really outdone himself with this performance.

Not only was the Joker accurate to the comic books (changing his past for example) but he was the perfect mix of psychotic and comic relief...even if that humour was a tad on the insane side :evilgrin:

turkishproverb
07-28-2008, 04:56 AM
Love the movie, but as to the villain speculating, I take this opportunity to say it:

DOCTOR FOR RIDDLER!

David Tennant MUST be Edward Nigma.

cqb101
07-28-2008, 09:45 AM
Love the movie, but as to the villain speculating, I take this opportunity to say it:

DOCTOR FOR RIDDLER!

David Tennant MUST be Edward Nigma.

Somebody mentioned it on another board, and I think it would be awesome - Simon Pegg as The Riddler.

Oh, and Phillip Seymour Hoffman as The Penguin. A weapons dealing (to the mob), Al Capone-esque gangster.

Brodie
07-28-2008, 12:04 PM
I'm pretty sure Nolan said the Penguin is a bit too silly a concept for the Batman series they've established...

cqb101
07-28-2008, 12:21 PM
I'm pretty sure Nolan said the Penguin is a bit too silly a concept for the Batman series they've established...

So are The Scarecrow, The Joker, and Two-Face, but he's proved that wrong.

Drtooth
07-28-2008, 12:51 PM
I know this has been said many, many times but Heath really outdone himself with this performance.


Listen. i know the buzz about it said he out Jokered Jack... but I think he even out Jokered Mark Hammil for me. And Mark was my favorite out of all the Jokers. And I'm not saying this just to be nice to someone who was taken before his time... he made the Joker absolutely demented and terrifying. I especially like how he played him quietly, and then had that horrifying laugh blast out of his mouth. And having him communicate via terrorist style videos?

I can't believe I didn't want the Joker in this series in the second movie. If there's one thing I ever regretted saying, it's that. I know that the Joker doesn't need to hold up the Batman franchise... but this time they really out did themselves as far as the writing of the character goes.

And I give this movie 5 (out of 5) Wows! Wow Wow Wow Wow Wow!

The only thing that sort of dissappointed me:

The fact they pretty much killed Two Face at the end. I would to have loved to see him come back as the main villain for Batman begins 3. It seems like they were setting up for him to be, anyway. Plus, it's about time they got TwoFace right in a film

I will say this too... I'm glad none of the major Merchandisers blew Two Face's apperance. Mattel didn't have a single 2F in its batman lines. I will say, Pez pretty much let the cat out of the bag... but by that logic, the Riddler would have been in the film as well.

I'm pretty sure Nolan said the Penguin is a bit too silly a concept for the Batman series they've established...

The Riddler could be concieved that way too... but anything is possible. I'd love to see them dive into the comic archives and pull out some obscure characters myself. The Riddler is someone you'd expect right away. And as for Penguin... you know, if they played him sort of like they did in Batman TAS, but make him a crime boss or something, they could pull it off with out it being to cartoonish.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see what Nolan and Co could do with them. I'd love to see them too. But there have to be some villains that no one would suspect.

And I don't mean Egghead or anyone like that.

The Stryker
07-29-2008, 12:53 AM
I'd be ok with Scarface being the villian in the next movie as long as the movie is done as well as this one.

ToTheNines
07-29-2008, 03:57 PM
I'd be ok with Scarface being the villian in the next movie as long as the movie is done as well as this one.

Would he look like this?

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080306/080306-jeff-dunham-vlg-10a.widec.jpg

The Stryker
07-30-2008, 02:06 AM
Would he look like this?

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080306/080306-jeff-dunham-vlg-10a.widec.jpg

No, he would be played by someone talented.

Thats right america, Come get me.

KROW
07-30-2008, 02:21 AM
No, he would be played by someone talented.

Thats right america, Come get me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/BJKROW/peanut.jpg

EEEEEEEEE-YO!


I think Poison Ivy could be used well in Nolan's films. Lots of interesting toxins and kisses going on... Plus, it'd be a female villain to kind of shake things up. One drawback I see, though, is an outcry from environmentalists or other eco-tarded people.

Mecha Cow
07-30-2008, 07:33 AM
I doubt Nolan would use villains with actual superhuman abilities. It just wouldn't fit.

ToTheNines
07-30-2008, 03:33 PM
No, he would be played by someone talented.

Thats right america, Come get me.

Don't worry I think he's lame too, but not as lame as Scarface. He works great for scattered episode's of a cartoon, but I wouldn't even watch the follow up if he was in it.

KROW
07-30-2008, 06:58 PM
I doubt Nolan would use villains with actual superhuman abilities. It just wouldn't fit.

True, but Ivy can be used without her toxin-in-the-blood-and-having-green-skin version. Her character can work without the superpowers, of which aren't really going to be missed by anyone, most likely.

poiuytre
07-30-2008, 07:43 PM
If Poison Ivy gets added, so should Robin.

cqb101
07-30-2008, 07:46 PM
If Poison Ivy gets added, so should Robin.

Then who would you re-cast as Batman?

The producers aren't stupid enough to add either of those characters.

ToTheNines
07-30-2008, 07:58 PM
If Poison Ivy gets added, so should Robin.

:lol: Same thing goes for half the other villains I see people talking about (Catwoman, Hatter, Scarface, Freeze).

poiuytre
07-30-2008, 08:07 PM
Then who would you re-cast as Batman?

The producers aren't stupid enough to add either of those characters.
Honestly, I really wouldn't want 'Robin' to be added to the movie either, but acknowledging Grayson's existence in some way, no matter how little, would be cool. People still associate the character with the campy 1960s version or the annoying Chris O'Donnell one. Nolan probably knows people make the connection or maybe even thinks like that himself, but if there's ever a chance to change that, it would be now. I don't think that's entirely fair to ignore Grayson for it, given how well-known he is.

KROW
07-30-2008, 08:12 PM
The producers aren't stupid enough to add either of those characters.

Oh, I agree. I'm just saying that Poison Ivy is more of a realistic character than Mad Hatter, Bane, or Scarface & Ventriloquist.

cqb101
07-30-2008, 09:04 PM
I still stand by my choices of Black Mask and/or Catwoman for the next one.

The Stryker
07-31-2008, 01:59 AM
On a side-note,

I think it's kind of lame that Bale is so against the Robin character.

turkishproverb
07-31-2008, 02:22 AM
In all fairness, the character is REALLY hard to get right, and alot of people blame him for the campy feel of alot of the late 50's to 60's batman productions.

Zog the Equalizer
07-31-2008, 02:24 AM
I think if they tone down the "Venom" Bane would be an excellent villain. He deserves to be redeemed after Batman & Robin. In the comics Bane is awesome. I propose a Gotham that is in chaos. Organized crime has taken a turn for the brutal and insane. Black Mask, The Penguin, Two-Face(If they decide to bring him back), and maybe even Scarecrow are all gang leaders involved in brutal turf wars and it's tearing the city apart. Batman is being run ragged and Bane is the one pulling the strings behind the scenes. It could be similar to Knightfall, but the broken back should be left out.

Ra
07-31-2008, 03:16 AM
I doubt Nolan would use villains with actual superhuman abilities. It just wouldn't fit.
I've been thinking about this for a whole week now.

What we are looking at are more psychological villains. Guys that like to play with your mind. While Batman has a very wide and colourful cast of villains to choose from, throwing someone like Freeze in would just...yeah, not fit. It can work, don't get me wrong, but look at what we've had. Really. Scarecrow intoxicating Gotham with hallucinogens. Ra's al Ghul's "cleansing" of the city. Joker's mind-warping and "pulling the rug under your feet" kinds of schemes...how the hell can you slot a physical threat in there?

To be honest, I'm taking an odd fancy to Hugo Strange for the next movie. I...really don't know why, but I can really just see him working for the next movie. Him and Riddler...two madmen in a race against time to unmask the Bat...

Mecha Cow
07-31-2008, 09:38 AM
I agree, which is why I think the Riddler would be a good pick for the next movie, and Nolan supposedly feels the same way.

Spike Spiegel
07-31-2008, 10:59 AM
Poison Ivy wouldn't be bad, especially if they make her more human like in her first few appearances in Batman TAS (like how she was portrayed as a full-on psycho in the first season episode "Pretty Poison." That episode still creeps me out).

In her own way she could hold the stage just as well as the Joker. She didn't work in "Batman and Robin" because her character was pretty one dimensional, you know...she can do a lot more as a villianess than simply being eye candy.

Jester
07-31-2008, 12:00 PM
I've heard a totally heresay news note that ANGELINA JOLIE wants to be Catwoman in the new movie, which the note said would be called "Gotham"...:roll:
http://wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=10041

Drtooth
07-31-2008, 01:46 PM
If Poison Ivy gets added, so should Robin.

NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!

There has to be some semi-obscure villain that would work well here. I mean, the general public didn't know who Raj Al Ghoul was, and he worked out.

It would be really obvious if they used someone like The Riddler, Ivy, or Freeze...

Raph's Girl
07-31-2008, 02:01 PM
NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!

There has to be some semi-obscure villain that would work well here. I mean, the general public didn't know who Raj Al Ghoul was, and he worked out.


Well Im hoping that Talia will eventually appear in the movies.

Semi-obscure Batman villians who don't have powers:

Ruby Ryder (sounds more like a Bond Girl :lol:):
The world’s richest woman and top female tycoon, based in Gotham City, Ruby Ryder is also a femme fatale and a full-fledged big time criminal. Three meetings with Batman ends in defeat and prison.

Sterling T. Silversmith alias the Sterling Silversmith has been obsessed with silver since childhood and, now, as a silver-haired older man, has amassed a fortune in stolen goods. Bullets bounce off Silversmith thanks to a silver alloy woven into the fabric of his white suit. Batman has fought him twice, and once prevented Silversmith from murdering the Crime Doctor.

Holiday: Mysterious serial killer who murders mobsters and others over a year (during The Long Halloween storyline). The killer's weapon is a .22 pistol (using a baby bottle nipple as a silencer) with the handle taped and the serial number filed off. Also, every crime takes place on a holiday and a small trinket representing each holiday is left behind at the scene. Alberto Falcone, youngest son of Carmine Falcone, is revealed to be the Holiday killer. However, Holiday was actually three people: Gilda Dent is the first, followed by her husband in order to keep her out of prison. When Alberto fakes his own death on New Year's Eve, they simply let him take over. Gilda disposes of the incriminating costume (a trenchcoat and fedora), as well as the last .22 pistol, throwing them into the furnace. Clues to Holiday's identity are found throughout the storyline, but even after reading the entire story, the identity of the killer is still left ambiguous. The Holiday murders are also responsible for the creation of Two-Face.

Anarky aka Lonnie Machin, a teenage prodigy who, believing in Anarchism, creates improvised gadgets and attempts to subvert government in order to improve society. Initially very young (age 12), his costume was designed to disguise his age. Batman recognizes him as a force for good, but does not support his violent methods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_villians

VaughnMichael
07-31-2008, 02:22 PM
I think they should use King Tut or Egghead haha I'm just kidding put back the pitch forks and torches!:lol:

Spitfire
08-01-2008, 01:23 AM
I never thought I'd be saying this but I saw it for a third time today. I'm looking for flaws now when I watch it. I'm surprised how consistent the Jokers make up is. There were also some things that flew over my head the first two times. Mainly the marked bills thing I didn't hear the dialog properly.

ToTheNines
08-02-2008, 05:48 PM
I just read Year One for the first time and I'm no longer opposed to Catwoman. I think she, The Riddler and (mabey) Bane would be nice for the 3rd.

Voltron
08-02-2008, 06:02 PM
Honestly, I really wouldn't want 'Robin' to be added to the movie either, but acknowledging Grayson's existence in some way, no matter how little, would be cool. People still associate the character with the campy 1960s version or the annoying Chris O'Donnell one. Nolan probably knows people make the connection or maybe even thinks like that himself, but if there's ever a chance to change that, it would be now. I don't think that's entirely fair to ignore Grayson for it, given how well-known he is.

The issue here is that Grayson takes away from the whole "loner" persona which was the whole ending to "The Dark Knight." Any appearance by Robin would completely ruin everything.

EVERYTHING.

That's why the killed Rachel.

Warhorse
08-02-2008, 10:31 PM
Thought some of you might get a kick out of this.

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Dr. Doom
08-03-2008, 08:23 AM
Hahaha, wtf

The issue here is that Grayson takes away from the whole "loner" persona which was the whole ending to "The Dark Knight." Any appearance by Robin would completely ruin everything.

EVERYTHING.

That's why the killed Rachel.

I could see that down the road leading to his need to have a Robin, but it wouldn't make any sense to not explore the loner aspect first in the next film at the very least, if there is one.

odupianist
08-04-2008, 09:11 AM
Warhorse, not bad. I'm waiting for a Brokeback Mountain spoof to be made with the Joker.

Warhorse
08-04-2008, 05:20 PM
I didn't do it, but one of my friends emailed it to me, and I thought it was funny, while the editing was spot on!

And yeah, I'm waiting for a Brokeback Mountain spoof too. I've already glimpsed a few Joker/Batman slash fan made vids. What's really funny about those are the comments people make. Crack me up!

Hey, did you all here about the accident Morgan Freeman had last night? He has a broken arm and a few other injuries. I also heard he and his female passenger had to be cut out of their car with the Jaws of Life.

And of course, you have this ridiculous rumor spreading around that this movie might be cursed. First, the unfortunate demise of Heath Ledger, and then you had Christian Bale involved with that family fued, and now this.

The Stryker
08-05-2008, 12:51 AM
I just think Bale is going around attacking castmates.

oldmanwinters
08-05-2008, 12:59 AM
I didn't do it, but one of my friends emailed it to me, and I thought it was funny, while the editing was spot on!

And yeah, I'm waiting for a Brokeback Mountain spoof too. I've already glimpsed a few Joker/Batman slash fan made vids. What's really funny about those are the comments people make. Crack me up!

Hey, did you all here about the accident Morgan Freeman had last night? He has a broken arm and a few other injuries. I also heard he and his female passenger had to be cut out of their car with the Jaws of Life.

And of course, you have this ridiculous rumor spreading around that this movie might be cursed. First, the unfortunate demise of Heath Ledger, and then you had Christian Bale involved with that family fued, and now this.

If rumors are true that the "Superman curse" has been broken, then maybe a "Dark Knight curse" has begun.

In all seriousness, though, I hope Freeman makes a full recovery. Losing him would be a great blow to movie-fans everywhere.

Ra
08-05-2008, 02:15 AM
Warhorse, that video never stops me from cracking up. Great find!

Sucks to hear about Freeman. :( Hopes to a fully and recovery are going his way.

ToxicRevolution
08-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Hey, did you all here about the accident Morgan Freeman had last night? He has a broken arm and a few other injuries. I also heard he and his female passenger had to be cut out of their car with the Jaws of Life.

And of course, you have this ridiculous rumor spreading around that this movie might be cursed. First, the unfortunate demise of Heath Ledger, and then you had Christian Bale involved with that family fued, and now this.

Don't forget the technician that died during filming.

Drtooth
08-05-2008, 02:33 PM
I never thought I'd be saying this but I saw it for a third time today. I'm looking for flaws now when I watch it. I'm surprised how consistent the Jokers make up is. There were also some things that flew over my head the first two times. Mainly the marked bills thing I didn't hear the dialog properly.

From what I heard, the only real complaint was the growling tone Batman gave during the movie. I liked it, myself.

Drtooth
08-06-2008, 09:12 AM
Highl;y unlikely rumors about the next film (http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91673)

Bring on Batman 3
by Mike Krumboltz
August 4, 2008 03:26:42 PM

"The Dark Knight" is still on the tip of everyone's tongue. But now, instead of folks breathlessly asking each other if they'd seen it, talk has turned to speculation over Batman's next foe. Who's it gonna be?

iVillage is reporting that the Caped Crusader may take on the Riddler in "Batman 3." According to the rumor mill, Johnny Depp might sign on to play the nefarious super-criminal. But caveat emptor—this could be just as false as the one about Crispin Glover playing the Joker.

Slashfilm notes that there are additional possibilities floating around. For instance, Phillip Seymour Hoffman may play the Penguin or Angelina Jolie could don Catwoman's skin-tight suit. Truth or fiction, fanboys around the world must be having a heart attack at the mere possibility.

Still, the "official" rumor mill is just one of the ways superfans are checking in on the next Batman flick. Many seek the scoop themselves. We've noticed impressive searches on "batman 3 rumors," "dark knight sequel casting rumors," and "batman's next villain."

That last query is very telling. People clearly want to know the answer, but we doubt even the filmmakers have decided. To that end, may we offer the studio execs this humble piece of Search-informed advice: Go with Catwoman. She's far-and-away the most popular baddie and there are already a slew of searches on possible cast members including Jessica Biel, Amy Adams, and, wait for it, Maggie Gyllenhaal. Do fans think Rachel Dawes, Bruce Wayne's one-and-only, was really the Catwoman all along?



Gotta say this... Johnny Depp is more popular at age 40 something than he was when he was a teen heart thron in 21 Jump Street. :trazz: (we really need a smurking turtle emoticom). I do hope these are rumors though. I hope these Batman movies don't suffer the same 3rd film curse the others had.

And after that God Awful Hallie Berry film, they're going to have to find a way for audiences to warm up to seeing Catwoman again.

Spike Spiegel
08-06-2008, 09:59 AM
I hope Catwoman would be more three dimensional. I think Michelle Pheiffer (is that how you spell it?) can still be topped by some actress out there.

ToxicRevolution
08-06-2008, 11:44 AM
I really, really hope Johnny Depp doesn't play the Riddler.

The Stryker
08-06-2008, 03:14 PM
As long as Harley Quinn doesn't show up in the movie in anyway shape or form, I'm good.

Dr. Doom
08-06-2008, 04:24 PM
I guess in the end I'm willing to give anything a try. Nolan has more than earned the benefit of the doubt.

Drtooth
08-06-2008, 05:34 PM
I really, really hope Johnny Depp doesn't play the Riddler.

I think he's over exposed. He could work, but I'd rather see some up and coming, or more obscure actor playing him. And I wonder... would they make him similar to The Batman's Riddler? Tossing aside the green jumpsuit for something a little creepier?

And as for the Penguin Rumor... I still say it could be done IF and only IF they do something similar to Batman TAS, maybe with ties to the mob.

Warhorse
08-06-2008, 09:23 PM
As long as Harley Quinn doesn't show up in the movie in anyway shape or form, I'm good.


Ditto for me too. My cousin nags me to death how she wished the Batman movies would add in Ms Joker, but I for one I am glad that they don't.

odupianist
08-07-2008, 07:36 AM
I think they should have added a tribute to Harley Quinn in the movie, but taht's about it. From what I understand, she became pretty big bc of Batman TAS and went into the comic.

Raph's Girl
08-07-2008, 02:07 PM
http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=35064

As predicted, 'The Dark Knight' now stands as the #1 grossing comic-based movie of all time.

The batman sequel topped the original 'Spider-Man' on Tuesday, when it earned an additional $5.6 million, bringing its domestic gross to over $405 million. The Spidey flick took in $403.7 million during its 15 week run at the box office.

Until last week the three web-slinger flicks held the top three spots on the all-time comics adaptation list. On Wednesday, 'Dark Knight' moved into the #3 position, displacing 'Spider-Man 3'.

Interestingly, 'The Dark Knight's move into the specialty chart pushes the original 'Batman Begins' from the top 10. That one is now the #11 comic-based movie.

Tim Burton's 1989 model 'Batman' is the #6 comic-based movie.

The Tuesday box office also makes 'The Dark Knight' the #7 higest-grossing movie of all time, up one notch from the day before. It's also now, the #3 highest-grossing PG-13 movie of all time.

Wowsers!!! :o

cqb101
08-07-2008, 02:33 PM
...and Pineapple Express is going to de-throne it this weekend.:D

The Stryker
08-07-2008, 03:02 PM
I think they should have added a tribute to Harley Quinn in the movie, but taht's about it. From what I understand, she became pretty big bc of Batman TAS and went into the comic.

Yeah, and theres still many villians that deserve the movie treatment before her. Even with cameos or whatever.

Tinuvielsdreams
08-07-2008, 03:11 PM
...and Pineapple Express is going to de-throne it this weekend.:D

I was wondering if that would be the film to do it. I have been hearing good reviews.
I am still trying to see DK in IMAX and I think it will happen on Sunday *fingers crossed*

Cure
08-10-2008, 07:54 PM
...and Pineapple Express is going to de-throne it this weekend.:D

Sorry (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1e343e9ca0d6f68b473d2af8b9d944fe), homie.

Mr. Snackpants
08-10-2008, 09:12 PM
Yeah I choose TDK over Pineapple Express twice...on Wednesday and then again this afternoon. TDK is just something you gotta see on the big screen. Pineapple Express can wait.

odupianist
08-11-2008, 08:56 AM
The Pineapple Express was funny, but still, a typical stoner movie. I have still only seen TDK once, and that's all I'm going to see it in the theaters.

cqb101
08-11-2008, 01:25 PM
The Pineapple Express was funny, but still, a typical stoner movie. I have still only seen TDK once, and that's all I'm going to see it in the theaters.

I didn't think there was anything typical about Pineapple Express.

ToTheNines
08-11-2008, 04:24 PM
Here's a good article for anyone who dosen't want to ever see Robin in this series: http://comics.ign.com/articles/896/896638p3.html

ToTheNines
08-14-2008, 03:39 PM
To anyone who wondered:
Two-Face is ****in' dead
http://movies.ign.com/articles/898/898426p1.html

Ecto Jedi
08-15-2008, 06:12 AM
To anyone who wondered:
Two-Face is ****in' dead
http://movies.ign.com/articles/898/898426p1.html

Oh well. I'll go to my grave saying that he would've made an excellent main villain for the next film. But whatever...

Bring on Mr. Freeze!

cqb101
08-15-2008, 09:49 AM
To anyone who wondered:
Two-Face is ****in' dead
http://movies.ign.com/articles/898/898426p1.html

Thank you! Now maybe people will shut the hell up about it already.

ToTheNines
08-15-2008, 03:50 PM
Oh well. I'll go to my grave saying that he would've made an excellent main villain for the next film. But whatever...

I used to think that before I actually saw the movie, but this version of the character wasn't interested in being a criminal per se, he was just out to avenge his woman. Plus, him living just cheapens the ending.

Drtooth
08-15-2008, 05:16 PM
Oh well. I'll go to my grave saying that he would've made an excellent main villain for the next film. But whatever...

Yeah... that's disappointing. I'm sure that they have something great planned if they plan to make a third film, but there was so much they could have done with the character in the next film. I could have seen him violently seeking revenge on the mob....

The Stryker
08-16-2008, 05:23 PM
I say recast Joker.

By the time the next movie comes out, there won't be as much heat about it.

KROW
08-16-2008, 05:49 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/BJKROW/MISC/tdkr.jpg

I found this on a website unrelated to anything official to Batman, Warner Brothers, or DC. Just thought I'd show it off to whet some appetites.

GK Punk
08-16-2008, 05:53 PM
That's been floating around for a bit now, It's known to be fake, but is pretty cool anyway. And yeah, recast Joker. May as well.

Jester
08-16-2008, 05:54 PM
I'd do it for a song. :P

ToTheNines
08-16-2008, 05:56 PM
I say recast Joker.

By the time the next movie comes out, there won't be as much heat about it.

As long as Nolan's still making the movies with this cast I say keep him in jail. I think he's only doing one more (mabey even less), so just re-cast everyone when the time comes.

KROW
08-16-2008, 05:56 PM
That's been floating around for a bit now, It's known to be fake, but is pretty cool anyway.

That's what I thought when I saw it. Even though it's fan-made, it looks pretty decent.