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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-25-2007, 02:38 PM
Would someone please tell me why Splinter had to “fast forward” with the Turtles? I mean, what purpose has he served at all?

In previous seasons, he’s fought the Shredder and the Foot Clan multiple times, been “kidnapped” by Utroms, prevent a coup in the Battle Nexus (okay, actually, he did this twice), fight off Triceraton and Federation invaders, been kidnapped by Bishop, try to obtain a cure for his mutated son, tried rescue his abducted sons from the Ninja Tribunal, and defeat the Tengu Shredder.

In Fast Forward, he watches soap operas, he grows a garden, he got bodyjacked by Jammerhead, implanted by Sh’Okanabo, fought in a bar brawl with Serling, messed around with the Journal, graduated the Turtles, and went time travelling with Don.

Okay, the writers could have found someone else (like Starlee, maybe) to get bodyjacked, implanted, and go time traveling. For graduating the Turtles, Cody could just have uploaded a holo-Splinter in the dojo.

Think of what might have been: after landed 99 years in the future, the four Turtles begin to drift away as a family. Don is obsessed with the future’s technology, Mikey is ecstatic to be able to walk the streets in broad daylight, and Raph is bitter and wants to go home. Leo finally wakes up to the fact that his family is collapsing, and has to bring them back together. Oh yeah, and help Cody deal with his crooked uncle Darius.

Thoughts, everyone? Sound like it could’ve been good?

Kunoichi_Haruko
05-25-2007, 02:53 PM
While I'll agree that Splinter in Fast Forward hasn't been entirely useful, I think the Turtles graduating without his personal blessing would be a bit... hollow, I guess. Besides, if they get back to the present, wouldn't their graduation be nullified?

To address your other thoughts, it sounds like the beginning Vol. 2, which I don't mind. And I like the idea, but would it really work for a whole season-- living separately and all? I mean, I enjoy good solo episodes, but I prefer them living together for the most part. Nothing good ever seems to happen when they're away from each other (this is just based on what I've observed, which isn't too much to be honest).

triplexxx
05-25-2007, 02:53 PM
Would someone please tell me why Splinter had to “fast forward” with the Turtles? I mean, what purpose has he served at all?

In Fast Forward, he watches soap operas, he grows a garden, he got bodyjacked by Jammerhead, implanted by Sh’Okanabo, fought in a bar brawl with Serling, messed around with the Journal, graduated the Turtles, and went time travelling with Don.
Well, apparently he's doing something, based on what you just wrote here. You're proposed idea sounds like a crooked (forgive me) idea to have only one turtle doing something for the family, and that's not very wise; they're all supposed to have something constructive to do. Fast Forward is just fine the way it is.

And I'm more comfortable with them living together.

CyberCubed
05-25-2007, 03:18 PM
I'm pretty certain the only reason Splinter is in Fast Forward is because Peter Laird wanted him to.

Without Splinter, the Turtles lose the "family" aspect of them, and that's probably why he went to the future with them.

Its evident that the writers tend to avoid using Splinter in FF, (there's a lot of episodes where he isn't even in it!), but I'm pretty certain he's there just to keep up the family image.

Scandia
05-25-2007, 03:20 PM
Splinter's cool. I like them better together. I love it when Splinter trains with the Turtles- especially when he beats them. Haven't watched Fast Forward, but I can imagine this keeps the TMNT family and team aspect.

Ava Collier
05-25-2007, 03:27 PM
While he doesn't do very much, when he does interact it amuses me greatly. I love Master Splinter, and I would turn my back on FF if he wasn't there enough to at least make me go "Okay...he's safe at home meditating."

And yeah, I'm with them. *thumbs up at other posts* I don't like the idea of them being seperated. These are all the reasons I don't read the comics. Nasty things I have heard...*sagenod* o.0 Yoda I am?

Coola Yagami
05-25-2007, 07:10 PM
what is this graduation i'm hearing about? Are the TMNT now considered full-fledged ninjas or something? Even... Mikey?

triplexxx
05-25-2007, 08:12 PM
They were just raised one level from genin to chunin. However, they were declared full-fledged ninjas at the end of the old toon; who knows, maybe the new toon might end the same way.

Ninjinister
05-25-2007, 08:32 PM
"Useless" (I use the term loosely) Splinter is better than no Splinter at all.

JetsAndHeels
05-25-2007, 08:58 PM
Splinter is one of the main characters. If the 4 brothers go into the future, he must go with them.

Plus its a great way to sell another action figure. :)

VaughnMichael
05-25-2007, 09:13 PM
I'd say they had Splinter go with them to the future so as we saw in many episodes he could actually get some peace and rest up after years of aggravation and fighting the foot.
I also believe them just coming from saving the world in the lost season is cause for both splinter and the turtles mood changes.
They just came from a total apocalyptic world and then are suddenly swept up into this beautiful futuristic world.
I think all of you would be pretty damn happy as well if that just happened to you perhaps a bit scared as well just as they where in the first episode of Fast Forward.
I to questioned Splinter place in Fast Forward at first but as the show progressed I am happy to have him there.
And if he wasn't I'm quite sure the fans would have complained about that as well giving another bad strike against Fast Forward.
I mean he has said things about watching soaps which I hate but as we can see it was said in the new CGI film as well so the blame for that idea can not be placed on the head of Fast Forward.
And why in the world would Starlee go to a grand event like that? She's just a worker not part of the O'Neil family much like the turtles and Splinter are to Codey.
Holo-Splinter yeah why not give the fans another reason to complain about this being a cold lifeless Splinter I can see it all now.
Also I could see if Splinter staying behind back in the present day NYC that something bad could have happend to him or he could have gone insane of the fact the turtles vanished.
Hell he could even pass away while they're gone. While I would enjoy a storyline like that I can honestly say I wouldn't want to see that happen to Splinter on tv.
Quite frankly the one who should have stayed in the past is Donatello while he has always been my favorite turtle he really has no place in Fast Forward there are people who are light years smarter than him now and he really doesnt serve much of a role beside being a lacky to much smarter characters from the future he should have stayed behind and they could have written that he was in our time trying to bring the guys and splinter back with the help of April.
And my thoughts about your idea sound like you've been watching the new movie one to many times.

Drtooth
05-29-2007, 01:09 PM
The only good thing about Splinter being in the future is that the Splinter toy in the FF series is actually good. Other than that, feh.

I guess when they did the earliest concepts of the show, they actually had Splinter doing things, but then they wanted to dumb the scripts down. I really dislike how Splinter has to be so cutesy now, and all he cares about is watching soaps. I mean, the joke once or twice would work, but he's basically just there for the sake of being there.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-29-2007, 03:25 PM
Someone finally agrees with me!

And I've only seen the TMNT movie ... (counts on fingers, takes off shoes, counts toes)... what comes after twenty?

VaughnMichael
05-29-2007, 06:30 PM
thanks for reading what I typed...:roll:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-01-2007, 12:54 PM
No problemo. [said in old 'toon Mikey voice]

VaughnMichael
06-01-2007, 03:07 PM
No problemo. [said in old 'toon Mikey voice]
does that mean your a pizza obessed stoner then? lol it explains everything now.:lol:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-06-2007, 07:42 AM
Dude, no! I may be totally obsessed with pizza, but I'm no stoner! Drugs are bad, dude! Never do 'em!! Cowabunga!! Mondo bizarro!

VaughnMichael
06-06-2007, 01:16 PM
Dude, no! I may be totally obsessed with pizza, but I'm no stoner! Drugs are bad, dude! Never do 'em!! Cowabunga!! Mondo bizarro!
hahaha so says you and I was kidding old toon mike was such a stoner it's not even funny and plenty of people here agree.:lol:

Sage Ninja
06-07-2007, 08:44 AM
Putrescent enough with the old toon Michaelangelo is a stoner crap alright :roll:. Old toon Mike was a little bit more intelligent sounding than that people. I'm tired of all the refrences to him sounding like some kind of brain dead pothead. The eightes cartoon had him sound like a surfer because that was considered "cool" back then. Alot of cartoon characters had that surfer persona back in the eighties. And I know every one is going to challenge/flame me on this too :roll:

But as to Splinter in FF...I'm still get used to his overly simplified character design. I really don't care for it. His eyebrows really stand out in a clashing sort of way that I find cringe-worthy. And yeah, he needs to lay off the soap-opras :-? I wonder if he watches Passions on NBC. That soap is so horriable it would fry any ones brain make them act weird. :lol:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-07-2007, 01:27 PM
Hey, I ain't making fun of Mikey. I love old toon Mikey. In fact, a lot of my word choices and dialogue are thanks to the surfer Mikey. Especially cowabunga and holy guacamole and dude.

After all, I think most everybody got hooked on TMNT because of the old toon.

As for Splinter, I'll bet he watches Gilmore Girls.

VaughnMichael
06-07-2007, 01:53 PM
Putrescent enough with the old toon Michaelangelo is a stoner crap alright :roll:. Old toon Mike was a little bit more intelligent sounding than that people. I'm tired of all the refrences to him sounding like some kind of brain dead pothead. The eightes cartoon had him sound like a surfer because that was considered "cool" back then. Alot of cartoon characters had that surfer persona back in the eighties. And I know every one is going to challenge/flame me on this too :roll:

But as to Splinter in FF...I'm still get used to his overly simplified character design. I really don't care for it. His eyebrows really stand out in a clashing sort of way that I find cringe-worthy. And yeah, he needs to lay off the soap-opras :-? I wonder if he watches Passions on NBC. That soap is so horriable it would fry any ones brain make them act weird. :lol:
Dude I'm so kidding and seriously get over yourself and don't tell me what I can and can not post.
Btw thats a really rude statement while most stoners are annoying as hell it's really wrong to generalize people because I know plenty of stoners who are very wealthy business men and women.
Um and he does sound like he is because of how often he talks about how he "has a major case of the munchies" like in every damn episode.
Scooby Doo & Shaggy are the same exact way.
And Mike in the old toon is suposed to be a california surfer type I live in california buddy and most of the surfers are allot like what I talked about.
It's a cartoon and an opinion you don't think it's true but I do so "Don't like it don't read it".
And how to splinter looks in FF he and the turtles to me look almost exactly like how Jim Lawson draws them infact if not better so I think that says so much about everything Jim being the main artist for tmnt and all.
And as your tired of people bitching about stoner 80's surfer mike I'm tired of people complaining about splinters soaps it's stupid we get it but you know it's in the movie also...so I'd pretty much say it's not a new idea.
Splinter would sit and watch tv while the turtles where away in the old toon and archie comics as well so it's really nothing new.

Spike Spiegel
06-08-2007, 11:33 AM
Dude!!!


How can you NOT have a TMNT with Splinter?? He is the rock that holds them together as a family...

ZariusTwo
06-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Dude!!!


How can you NOT have a TMNT with Splinter?? He is the rock that holds them together as a family...

Ask Peter Laird that. He killed Splinter off years ago.

triplexxx
06-08-2007, 10:49 PM
Ask Peter Laird that. He killed Splinter off years ago.
Not in the TV or movies, he didn't.

VaughnMichael
06-08-2007, 10:53 PM
Not in the TV or movies, he didn't.
They where going to do it in the next mutation but the second season never happend.

ZariusTwo
06-08-2007, 11:40 PM
Not in the TV or movies, he didn't.

Of course he would'nt, because younger audiences watch the cartoons, where as they don't read the comics and there targeted towards the older fans

Splinter's Iroonna
06-09-2007, 10:01 AM
SPLINTER is in FAST FORWARD???:o


Actually, the very first ep let him fight. Then we get the soap opera thing (which, btw, I don't believe is canon-- it's fanon, yet has become canon)-- yes, they have not used him as much as they could have. I got that feeling during that fourth season as well.

And he was starting to be used more. Even as a fighter (which he should be the best, no doubt). But yes, Splinter is part of the Family, and though I enjoy the guys exploring on their own, I would not like it if they got rid of my :tlove: :goofygri: Splintie!

Lady Venus
06-09-2007, 01:15 PM
That's true the Guys will be lost without their father/mentor.

ZariusTwo
06-09-2007, 01:26 PM
Pfft...the f*ck they would be, they'd learn to move on without him. Get out of your collective "safe zone" asses for the sake of character expansion.

Sunshine
06-09-2007, 09:47 PM
I am glad they had Splinter go with them to the future. I also prefer them all living together. It just wouldn't be the same if they split up. For one thing it would most likely lead to some turtles being neglected screen time if they split up tv is not the best medium to attempt things like that. If they weren't all living together I really think it would hurt the show overall and could of even possibly ended it in my opinion. Personally I feel the guys still need Splinter though as they've become more capable and self sufficient he has sort of stepped back a bit and let them do more on their own. It seems to me as if he's trying to see how they do on their own. He's still there if they need him but for the most part they are learning not to rely on him as much as they did before. In early 2k3 he stepped in rather often to get them out of trouble. Personally I see quite a bit of character development here. *shrug*

Sage Ninja
06-09-2007, 11:31 PM
Btw thats a really rude statement while most stoners are annoying as hell it's really wrong to generalize people because I know plenty of stoners who are very wealthy business men and women.
Um and he does sound like he is because of how often he talks about how he "has a major case of the munchies" like in every damn episode.
Scooby Doo & Shaggy are the same exact way.
And Mike in the old toon is suposed to be a california surfer type I live in california buddy and most of the surfers are allot like what I talked about.


umm, look Putrescent I wasn't exactly trying to pick a fight in my post so there is no need to talk down to me and tell me to get over my self for responding the way I did. I just didn't care for the eye rolling stero-type that Michaelangelo in the old toon was portrayed as a stoner. And I do find that offensive since even though some people who are stoners might be succusful, as you pointed out, the general view is that they are losers who aren't very smart, which is how its usually used as when applied to Michaelangelo. I find it as a put down to a favorite character of mine, and most any other fan of their favorite turtle would take offence as well. And yes I know that there are alot of drugged out surfers in california too so I don't need to be told that. Its kind of the same as the little jabs Donatello character gets about being gay because he wears purple or acts a certain way, that is unfair to his character.

Dude I'm so kidding and seriously get over yourself and don't tell me what I can and can not post (...)It's a cartoon and an opinion you don't think it's true but I do so "Don't like it don't read it".
And how to splinter looks in FF he and the turtles to me look almost exactly like how Jim Lawson draws them infact if not better so I think that says so much about everything Jim being the main artist for tmnt and all.
And as your tired of people bitching about stoner 80's surfer mike I'm tired of people complaining about splinters soaps it's stupid we get it but you know it's in the movie also...so I'd pretty much say it's not a new idea.
Splinter would sit and watch tv while the turtles where away in the old toon and archie comics as well so it's really nothing new.

You sort of contradicted your self here, first you tell me not to tell you what post, then you turn around and tell me the same thing with my opinion on Splinter in FF. And wasn't the least bit rude about it, I was just stating my opinion. And this is a message board where people post and repsond to topics. So of course I'm going to respond to something that I have an opinion on, that is what a forum is for. So the whole "Don;t like it then don't read it" argument isn't going to fly. Look I didn't come in here to fight, so if you where only joking around with your stoner comment then I'm sorry for my out burst.

triplexxx
06-10-2007, 01:06 AM
umm, look Putrescent I wasn't exactly trying to pick a fight in my post so there is no need to talk down to me and tell me to get over my self for responding the way I did. I just didn't care for the eye rolling stero-type that Michaelangelo in the old toon was portrayed as a stoner. And I do find that offensive since even though some people who are stoners might be succusful, as you pointed out, the general view is that they are losers who aren't very smart, which is how its usually used as when applied to Michaelangelo. I find it as a put down to a favorite character of mine, and most any other fan of their favorite turtle would take offence as well. And yes I know that there are alot of drugged out surfers in california too so I don't need to be told that. Its kind of the same as the little jabs Donatello character gets about being gay because he wears purple or acts a certain way, that is unfair to his character.
Well, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Aside from the comics (which not everyone is into) containing beer, everyone knows no significant or insignificant TMNT universe has had a thing to do with drugs or alcohol, aside from those couple things in the old toon having the TMNT speaking AGAINST drugs. All that about Michaelangelo being a stoner, Donatello being gay, everyone knows it's just a bunch of stupid, joking, horse's-a** bullcrap that people make up for fun. Some people find it funny, other don't. I, like you, don't. But I know it's all just a big sarcastic joke.

VaughnMichael
06-10-2007, 04:41 AM
umm, look Putrescent I wasn't exactly trying to pick a fight in my post so there is no need to talk down to me and tell me to get over my self for responding the way I did. I just didn't care for the eye rolling stero-type that Michaelangelo in the old toon was portrayed as a stoner. And I do find that offensive since even though some people who are stoners might be succusful, as you pointed out, the general view is that they are losers who aren't very smart, which is how its usually used as when applied to Michaelangelo. I find it as a put down to a favorite character of mine, and most any other fan of their favorite turtle would take offence as well. And yes I know that there are alot of drugged out surfers in california too so I don't need to be told that. Its kind of the same as the little jabs Donatello character gets about being gay because he wears purple or acts a certain way, that is unfair to his character.



You sort of contradicted your self here, first you tell me not to tell you what post, then you turn around and tell me the same thing with my opinion on Splinter in FF. And wasn't the least bit rude about it, I was just stating my opinion. And this is a message board where people post and repsond to topics. So of course I'm going to respond to something that I have an opinion on, that is what a forum is for. So the whole "Don;t like it then don't read it" argument isn't going to fly. Look I didn't come in here to fight, so if you where only joking around with your stoner comment then I'm sorry for my out burst.
Uh yeah like I said before...cartoon...being...taking way to seriously...nuff said.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-12-2007, 01:21 PM
I'd say ZariusTwo and Sunshine both have good points. I'd never thought of not having Splinter step in to fight as character development for the TMNT before.

Sage Ninja
06-12-2007, 02:48 PM
Uh yeah like I said before...cartoon...being...taking way to seriously...nuff said.

yeah, I like how some people like to play the pot that is calling the kettle black :roll:

VaughnMichael
06-12-2007, 05:21 PM
yeah, I like how some people like to play the pot that is calling the kettle black :roll:
No it's more like the person making a joke calling some one to serious about a cartoon and I wasn't even talking down to you in the first place I was making a comment about a cartoon character on a show that I love not talking to you about stoners. I mean for christ sakes man I watched an episode this morning and Mikey makes the comment to Leonardo about being "half baked" I mean geez what more proof do you want that they wherent taking it to seriously and Mike was pretty much a joke or the brunt of the jokes in the old toon.
btw looking back over now with what you said you didn't find yourself to be one bit rude? Wow really? cause I'd call some one who comes into a thread about FF Splinter screaming about one comment which was a joke about Mike and turning it into a huge deal rude.
So just keep on rollin them eyes.

odupianist
06-13-2007, 07:00 AM
Mikey makes the comment to Leonardo about being "half baked" I mean geez what more proof do you want that they wherent taking it to seriously and Mike was pretty much a joke or the brunt of the jokes in the old toon.

Or you could take it as a non drug joke by saying Mikey's not all there. Half baked idea kind of thing. Kind of like when Don knocked him on the head and said "Nope, not quite ripe"

Drtooth
06-13-2007, 09:11 AM
I'm surprised I didn't realize it sooner, but Splinter is only in FF because they wanted to sell his action figure. Think about it. The Paleo Patrol set had a Splinter figure, but he was never there. So, by putting him in this series, the action figure is at least show specific. Even though they got the accessories wrong.

As for Splinter, I'll bet he watches Gilmore Girls.

Uhhh... did you see the movie?

VaughnMichael
06-13-2007, 10:08 AM
Or you could take it as a non drug joke by saying Mikey's not all there. Half baked idea kind of thing. Kind of like when Don knocked him on the head and said "Nope, not quite ripe"
omg will you guys get over it seriouly if I want to think mikey is a fat pizza chompin' stoner I can. You don't have to quite frankly it makes myself and other people laugh at things allot more especially considering I hate Mikey and he's my least favorite turtle.
I'd apricate it if you Mikey fans didn't make me dislike him anymore allready k thanks.:lol:
I'm surprised I didn't realize it sooner, but Splinter is only in FF because they wanted to sell his action figure. Think about it. The Paleo Patrol set had a Splinter figure, but he was never there. So, by putting him in this series, the action figure is at least show specific. Even though they got the accessories wrong.
That logics a bit messy there good dr. if they wanted to sell toys by the logic you have Splinter would have been in the savanti time traveling episode.
I think they just want to sell toys but I don't think the episodes really had much to do with it when it came to 2k3 since they would release characters a long time after they apeared on the air.

Sage Ninja
06-13-2007, 10:57 AM
No it's more like the person making a joke calling some one to serious about a cartoon and I wasn't even talking down to you in the first place I was making a comment about a cartoon character on a show that I love not talking to you about stoners. I mean for christ sakes man I watched an episode this morning and Mikey makes the comment to Leonardo about being "half baked" I mean geez what more proof do you want that they wherent taking it to seriously and Mike was pretty much a joke or the brunt of the jokes in the old toon.
btw looking back over now with what you said you didn't find yourself to be one bit rude? Wow really? cause I'd call some one who comes into a thread about FF Splinter screaming about one comment which was a joke about Mike and turning it into a huge deal rude.
So just keep on rollin them eyes.

no what I mean is that you (like every one else here) are a member of a message board that is dedicated to four fictional characters that are freaks of nature and live in the sewers and learn ninjitsu from a giant rat. And yet the fans on here talk about them and analise their thoughts and actions (even the future of its show and comic book) on a regular basis as if they where actual people. But you pretty much stepped back and adopted a superority stance and said: "Uh...yeah...like a said...cartoon being taken way to seriously". Who are you to say whos taking what in their fandom in this franchise to seriously when every one here to some degree (including you) does just that. Like your annoyance with the critism fans have shown toward Lawsons art, when its just a comic book. So I guess thats what I ment by my "pot calling the kettle black remark, and why I thought your "cartoon being taken to seriously" remark was hypcritical

And of course I know that Michaelangelo in the old toon was a "comedic" character. Just about every character, theme and aspect in the old show was for comedic effect.

And I did awknowledge that you where only joking and even went so far as to apologise for my out burst, which you choose to not even a awknowledge, but what ever lets just drop and now and stop going back and forth.

VaughnMichael
06-13-2007, 11:04 AM
no what I mean is that you (like every one else here) are a member of a message board that is dedicated to four fictional characters that are freaks of nature and live in the sewers and learn ninjitsu from a giant rat. And yet the fans on here talk about them and analise their thoughts and actions (even the future of its show and comic book) on a regular basis as if they where actual people. But you pretty much stepped back and adopted a superority stance and said: "Uh...yeah...like a said...cartoon being taken way to seriously". Who are you to say whos taking what in their fandom in this franchise to seriously when every one here to some degree (including you) does just that. Like your annoyance with the critism fans have shown toward Lawsons art, when its just a comic book. So I guess thats what I ment by my "pot calling the kettle black remark, and why I thought your "cartoon being taken to seriously" remark was hypcritical

And of course I know that Michaelangelo in the old toon was a "comedic" character. Just about every character, theme and aspect in the old show was for comedic effect.

And I did awknowledge that you where only joking and even went so far as to apologise for my out burst, which you choose to not even a awknowledge, but what ever lets just drop and now and stop going back and forth.
Well I think the fact that the post was rambled and then included some sort of small oh ic your kidding sort of made it slip past me cause I didn't even notice you did that.
Like I said this is about Splinter in FF not Mikey in the old toon or me thinking his character acter made him act like a stoner or not or if you agree or not or think I'm a jerk for thinking he is it's all a matter of opinion and I find it quite funny actully even though I hate old toon Mike or most Mike incarnations for the most part besides Mirage and Image comics mike.
Btw I'm fine with other peoples opinions but I take offence when I post a comical comment and some one comes along OMGZ!! you can't say such things! It happens almost on a daily basis around here. But I do have to stop and realize though that for the most part that I'm dealing with a bunch of kids here most of the time and I really need to just go walk away but I have to admit it's hard to when some one attacks your person.
Yeah I'd like that I'm getting sea sick with all the back and forth.
Um and btw just so you know your mistaking me for some one else more than likely Zarius two because i hate lawsons new style of art but I do respect him now because i now know the reason it's so bad.

Sage Ninja
06-13-2007, 11:47 AM
fair enough. I agree with you that no one has the right to say what others could post and what their opinions are. In my second post where i apologised I was just telling my side of things and why I reacted the way I did and to put you straight on my feelings on the subject. Frankly I was annoyed, thats why I came off sort of OMG how dare Youuuuuu, which when I look at it from your POV I can see why you reacted in a WTF sort of way. I am certainly not a kid. I felt a little patranized when I bothered to apologise and you sort of made what I felt as a "yeah what ever your a jerk for having that opinion" remark. I think being able to admit when you might have reacted to strongly shows maturity, which I did try to do. So if I didn't that clear enough I guess what have here is misunderstanding.

Look I'm not a hard person to get along with but like I stated above every one reacts to this franchise with diffrent degrees of passion. So like its cool for me to tell what you can't say about a character its not cool to say who is taking it too seriously. Can we just call a truce after this now and shake hands?

**extends hand**

Sunshine
06-13-2007, 12:47 PM
I'd say ZariusTwo and Sunshine both have good points. I'd never thought of not having Splinter step in to fight as character development for the TMNT before.

I tend to read between the lines a LOT when it comes to the actions of all of the characters because I run (or have run) several roleplays including my current TMNT rp. So I try and gain a deeper understanding of why all the characters do or do not do things. And yeah after recently watching the beginning of 2k3 again I couldn't help but notice that Splinter jumped in to save the turtles quite often. As the series progressed he started showing up to save them less and less often, as he started trusting that they would be able to take care of themselves more.

The Terror of Death
06-13-2007, 03:33 PM
I think Splinter tends to only come along with the guys when their on a really big mission so its not like the writers have been cutting him out of FF. The villians of FF usually find Cody/the turtles or they just happen to be in the same location. Also, Splinter usually stayed at home when the turtles went outside so hes actually being the same Splinter that he was in the past seasons.
And could people please stop saying all he does is watch soaps!!! I think FF only mentioned him watching them like two times!!!

Sunshine
06-13-2007, 07:19 PM
I agree and besides I really personally don't have a problem with that. Ok so he watches tv other then the news. What's so wrong with that? You mean he doesn't spend all his time training or meditaing? *GASP!* Seriously it's not that big of a deal. To me it seems a bit more realistic that he'd do something like watch tv every now and then. In 2k3 he very rarely left the lair unless he was helping the guys. There isn't really a lot to do stuck in a sewer even a nice one. So why not? What else would you have him do to relax? And in the future things aren't a lot different Splinter seems to be more comfortable staying at home then going out into the world. I can understand that, he isn't a teenager and he's spent a long time hiding from the world, I doubt he's completely comfortable just strolling down the street even if he is accepted. It isn't like it's something he'd really be used to.