Splinter in Fast Forward

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 05-25-2007, 02:38 PM

Would someone please tell me why Splinter had to “fast forward” with the Turtles? I mean, what purpose has he served at all?

In previous seasons, he’s fought the Shredder and the Foot Clan multiple times, been “kidnapped” by Utroms, prevent a coup in the Battle Nexus (okay, actually, he did this twice), fight off Triceraton and Federation invaders, been kidnapped by Bishop, try to obtain a cure for his mutated son, tried rescue his abducted sons from the Ninja Tribunal, and defeat the Tengu Shredder.

In Fast Forward, he watches soap operas, he grows a garden, he got bodyjacked by Jammerhead, implanted by Sh’Okanabo, fought in a bar brawl with Serling, messed around with the Journal, graduated the Turtles, and went time travelling with Don.

Okay, the writers could have found someone else (like Starlee, maybe) to get bodyjacked, implanted, and go time traveling. For graduating the Turtles, Cody could just have uploaded a holo-Splinter in the dojo.

Think of what might have been: after landed 99 years in the future, the four Turtles begin to drift away as a family. Don is obsessed with the future’s technology, Mikey is ecstatic to be able to walk the streets in broad daylight, and Raph is bitter and wants to go home. Leo finally wakes up to the fact that his family is collapsing, and has to bring them back together. Oh yeah, and help Cody deal with his crooked uncle Darius.

Thoughts, everyone? Sound like it could’ve been good?

*Kunoichi_Haruko* · 05-25-2007, 02:53 PM

While I'll agree that Splinter in Fast Forward hasn't been entirely useful, I think the Turtles graduating without his personal blessing would be a bit... hollow, I guess. Besides, if they get back to the present, wouldn't their graduation be nullified?

To address your other thoughts, it sounds like the beginning Vol. 2, which I don't mind. And I like the idea, but would it really work for a whole season-- living separately and all? I mean, I enjoy good solo episodes, but I prefer them living together for the most part. Nothing good ever seems to happen when they're away from each other (this is just based on what I've observed, which isn't too much to be honest).

*triplexxx* · 05-25-2007, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaphAttack

Would someone please tell me why Splinter had to “fast forward” with the Turtles? I mean, what purpose has he served at all?

In Fast Forward, he watches soap operas, he grows a garden, he got bodyjacked by Jammerhead, implanted by Sh’Okanabo, fought in a bar brawl with Serling, messed around with the Journal, graduated the Turtles, and went time travelling with Don.

Well, apparently he's doing something, based on what you just wrote here. You're proposed idea sounds like a crooked (forgive me) idea to have only one turtle doing something for the family, and that's not very wise; they're all supposed to have something constructive to do. Fast Forward is just fine the way it is.

And I'm more comfortable with them living together.

*CyberCubed* · 05-25-2007, 03:18 PM

I'm pretty certain the only reason Splinter is in Fast Forward is because Peter Laird wanted him to.

Without Splinter, the Turtles lose the "family" aspect of them, and that's probably why he went to the future with them.

Its evident that the writers tend to avoid using Splinter in FF, (there's a lot of episodes where he isn't even in it!), but I'm pretty certain he's there just to keep up the family image.

*Scandia* · 05-25-2007, 03:20 PM

Splinter's cool. I like them better together. I love it when Splinter trains with the Turtles- especially when he beats them. Haven't watched Fast Forward, but I can imagine this keeps the TMNT family and team aspect.

*Ava Collier* · 05-25-2007, 03:27 PM

While he doesn't do very much, when he does interact it amuses me greatly. I love Master Splinter, and I would turn my back on FF if he wasn't there enough to at least make me go "Okay...he's safe at home meditating."

And yeah, I'm with them. *thumbs up at other posts* I don't like the idea of them being seperated. These are all the reasons I don't read the comics. Nasty things I have heard...*sagenod* o.0 Yoda I am?

*Coola Yagami* · 05-25-2007, 07:10 PM

what is this graduation i'm hearing about? Are the TMNT now considered full-fledged ninjas or something? Even... Mikey?

*triplexxx* · 05-25-2007, 08:12 PM

They were just raised one level from genin to chunin. However, they were declared full-fledged ninjas at the end of the old toon; who knows, maybe the new toon might end the same way.

*Ninjinister* · 05-25-2007, 08:32 PM

"Useless" (I use the term loosely) Splinter is better than no Splinter at all.

JetsAndHeels · 05-25-2007, 08:58 PM

Splinter is one of the main characters. If the 4 brothers go into the future, he must go with them.

Plus its a great way to sell another action figure.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-25-2007, 09:13 PM

I'd say they had Splinter go with them to the future so as we saw in many episodes he could actually get some peace and rest up after years of aggravation and fighting the foot.
I also believe them just coming from saving the world in the lost season is cause for both splinter and the turtles mood changes.
They just came from a total apocalyptic world and then are suddenly swept up into this beautiful futuristic world.
I think all of you would be pretty damn happy as well if that just happened to you perhaps a bit scared as well just as they where in the first episode of Fast Forward.
I to questioned Splinter place in Fast Forward at first but as the show progressed I am happy to have him there.
And if he wasn't I'm quite sure the fans would have complained about that as well giving another bad strike against Fast Forward.
I mean he has said things about watching soaps which I hate but as we can see it was said in the new CGI film as well so the blame for that idea can not be placed on the head of Fast Forward.
And why in the world would Starlee go to a grand event like that? She's just a worker not part of the O'Neil family much like the turtles and Splinter are to Codey.
Holo-Splinter yeah why not give the fans another reason to complain about this being a cold lifeless Splinter I can see it all now.
Also I could see if Splinter staying behind back in the present day NYC that something bad could have happend to him or he could have gone insane of the fact the turtles vanished.
Hell he could even pass away while they're gone. While I would enjoy a storyline like that I can honestly say I wouldn't want to see that happen to Splinter on tv.
Quite frankly the one who should have stayed in the past is Donatello while he has always been my favorite turtle he really has no place in Fast Forward there are people who are light years smarter than him now and he really doesnt serve much of a role beside being a lacky to much smarter characters from the future he should have stayed behind and they could have written that he was in our time trying to bring the guys and splinter back with the help of April.
And my thoughts about your idea sound like you've been watching the new movie one to many times.

*Drtooth* · 05-29-2007, 01:09 PM

The only good thing about Splinter being in the future is that the Splinter toy in the FF series is actually good. Other than that, feh.

I guess when they did the earliest concepts of the show, they actually had Splinter doing things, but then they wanted to dumb the scripts down. I really dislike how Splinter has to be so cutesy now, and all he cares about is watching soaps. I mean, the joke once or twice would work, but he's basically just there for the sake of being there.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 05-29-2007, 03:25 PM

Someone finally agrees with me!

And I've only seen the TMNT movie ... (counts on fingers, takes off shoes, counts toes)... what comes after twenty?

*VaughnMichael* · 05-29-2007, 06:30 PM

thanks for reading what I typed...

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 06-01-2007, 12:54 PM

No problemo. [said in old 'toon Mikey voice]

*VaughnMichael* · 06-01-2007, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaphAttack

No problemo. [said in old 'toon Mikey voice]

does that mean your a pizza obessed stoner then? lol it explains everything now.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 06-06-2007, 07:42 AM

Dude, no! I may be totally obsessed with pizza, but I'm no stoner! Drugs are bad, dude! Never do 'em!! Cowabunga!! Mondo bizarro!

*VaughnMichael* · 06-06-2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaphAttack

Dude, no! I may be totally obsessed with pizza, but I'm no stoner! Drugs are bad, dude! Never do 'em!! Cowabunga!! Mondo bizarro!

hahaha so says you and I was kidding old toon mike was such a stoner it's not even funny and plenty of people here agree.

*Sage Ninja* · 06-07-2007, 08:44 AM

Putrescent enough with the old toon Michaelangelo is a stoner crap alright

. Old toon Mike was a little bit more intelligent sounding than that people. I'm tired of all the refrences to him sounding like some kind of brain dead pothead. The eightes cartoon had him sound like a surfer because that was considered "cool" back then. Alot of cartoon characters had that surfer persona back in the eighties. And I know every one is going to challenge/flame me on this too

But as to Splinter in FF...I'm still get used to his overly simplified character design. I really don't care for it. His eyebrows really stand out in a clashing sort of way that I find cringe-worthy. And yeah, he needs to lay off the soap-opras

I wonder if he watches Passions on NBC. That soap is so horriable it would fry any ones brain make them act weird.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 06-07-2007, 01:27 PM

Hey, I ain't making fun of Mikey. I love old toon Mikey. In fact, a lot of my word choices and dialogue are thanks to the surfer Mikey. Especially cowabunga and holy guacamole and dude.

After all, I think most everybody got hooked on TMNT because of the old toon.

As for Splinter, I'll bet he watches Gilmore Girls.

05-25-2007, 02:38 PM	#1
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Splinter in Fast Forward Would someone please tell me why Splinter had to “fast forward” with the Turtles? I mean, what purpose has he served at all? In previous seasons, he’s fought the Shredder and the Foot Clan multiple times, been “kidnapped” by Utroms, prevent a coup in the Battle Nexus (okay, actually, he did this twice), fight off Triceraton and Federation invaders, been kidnapped by Bishop, try to obtain a cure for his mutated son, tried rescue his abducted sons from the Ninja Tribunal, and defeat the Tengu Shredder. In Fast Forward, he watches soap operas, he grows a garden, he got bodyjacked by Jammerhead, implanted by Sh’Okanabo, fought in a bar brawl with Serling, messed around with the Journal, graduated the Turtles, and went time travelling with Don. Okay, the writers could have found someone else (like Starlee, maybe) to get bodyjacked, implanted, and go time traveling. For graduating the Turtles, Cody could just have uploaded a holo-Splinter in the dojo. Think of what might have been: after landed 99 years in the future, the four Turtles begin to drift away as a family. Don is obsessed with the future’s technology, Mikey is ecstatic to be able to walk the streets in broad daylight, and Raph is bitter and wants to go home. Leo finally wakes up to the fact that his family is collapsing, and has to bring them back together. Oh yeah, and help Cody deal with his crooked uncle Darius. Thoughts, everyone? Sound like it could’ve been good?

05-25-2007, 02:53 PM	#2
Kunoichi_Haruko A shell of a good hit! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 1,685	While I'll agree that Splinter in Fast Forward hasn't been entirely useful, I think the Turtles graduating without his personal blessing would be a bit... hollow, I guess. Besides, if they get back to the present, wouldn't their graduation be nullified? To address your other thoughts, it sounds like the beginning Vol. 2, which I don't mind. And I like the idea, but would it really work for a whole season-- living separately and all? I mean, I enjoy good solo episodes, but I prefer them living together for the most part. Nothing good ever seems to happen when they're away from each other (this is just based on what I've observed, which isn't too much to be honest). __________________

05-25-2007, 03:27 PM	#6
Ava Collier It's ninja ninja RAT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,958	While he doesn't do very much, when he does interact it amuses me greatly. I love Master Splinter, and I would turn my back on FF if he wasn't there enough to at least make me go "Okay...he's safe at home meditating." And yeah, I'm with them. thumbs up at other posts I don't like the idea of them being seperated. These are all the reasons I don't read the comics. Nasty things I have heard...sagenod o.0 Yoda I am? __________________

05-25-2007, 08:12 PM	#8
triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,809	They were just raised one level from genin to chunin. However, they were declared full-fledged ninjas at the end of the old toon; who knows, maybe the new toon might end the same way. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges Last edited by triplexxx; 05-25-2007 at 08:33 PM.

05-25-2007, 08:32 PM	#9
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	"Useless" (I use the term loosely) Splinter is better than no Splinter at all. __________________

05-25-2007, 03:18 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,721	I'm pretty certain the only reason Splinter is in Fast Forward is because Peter Laird wanted him to. Without Splinter, the Turtles lose the "family" aspect of them, and that's probably why he went to the future with them. Its evident that the writers tend to avoid using Splinter in FF, (there's a lot of episodes where he isn't even in it!), but I'm pretty certain he's there just to keep up the family image.

05-25-2007, 03:20 PM	#5
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Splinter's cool. I like them better together. I love it when Splinter trains with the Turtles- especially when he beats them. Haven't watched Fast Forward, but I can imagine this keeps the TMNT family and team aspect.

05-25-2007, 07:10 PM	#7
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,655	what is this graduation i'm hearing about? Are the TMNT now considered full-fledged ninjas or something? Even... Mikey?

05-25-2007, 08:58 PM	#10
JetsAndHeels Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 596	Splinter is one of the main characters. If the 4 brothers go into the future, he must go with them. Plus its a great way to sell another action figure. __________________

05-25-2007, 09:13 PM	#11
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	I'd say they had Splinter go with them to the future so as we saw in many episodes he could actually get some peace and rest up after years of aggravation and fighting the foot. I also believe them just coming from saving the world in the lost season is cause for both splinter and the turtles mood changes. They just came from a total apocalyptic world and then are suddenly swept up into this beautiful futuristic world. I think all of you would be pretty damn happy as well if that just happened to you perhaps a bit scared as well just as they where in the first episode of Fast Forward. I to questioned Splinter place in Fast Forward at first but as the show progressed I am happy to have him there. And if he wasn't I'm quite sure the fans would have complained about that as well giving another bad strike against Fast Forward. I mean he has said things about watching soaps which I hate but as we can see it was said in the new CGI film as well so the blame for that idea can not be placed on the head of Fast Forward. And why in the world would Starlee go to a grand event like that? She's just a worker not part of the O'Neil family much like the turtles and Splinter are to Codey. Holo-Splinter yeah why not give the fans another reason to complain about this being a cold lifeless Splinter I can see it all now. Also I could see if Splinter staying behind back in the present day NYC that something bad could have happend to him or he could have gone insane of the fact the turtles vanished. Hell he could even pass away while they're gone. While I would enjoy a storyline like that I can honestly say I wouldn't want to see that happen to Splinter on tv. Quite frankly the one who should have stayed in the past is Donatello while he has always been my favorite turtle he really has no place in Fast Forward there are people who are light years smarter than him now and he really doesnt serve much of a role beside being a lacky to much smarter characters from the future he should have stayed behind and they could have written that he was in our time trying to bring the guys and splinter back with the help of April. And my thoughts about your idea sound like you've been watching the new movie one to many times. Last edited by VaughnMichael; 05-26-2007 at 03:25 AM.

05-29-2007, 01:09 PM	#12
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	The only good thing about Splinter being in the future is that the Splinter toy in the FF series is actually good. Other than that, feh. I guess when they did the earliest concepts of the show, they actually had Splinter doing things, but then they wanted to dumb the scripts down. I really dislike how Splinter has to be so cutesy now, and all he cares about is watching soaps. I mean, the joke once or twice would work, but he's basically just there for the sake of being there. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

05-29-2007, 03:25 PM	#13
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Someone finally agrees with me! And I've only seen the TMNT movie ... (counts on fingers, takes off shoes, counts toes)... what comes after twenty?

05-29-2007, 06:30 PM	#14
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	thanks for reading what I typed...

06-01-2007, 12:54 PM	#15
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	No problemo. [said in old 'toon Mikey voice]

06-06-2007, 07:42 AM	#17
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Dude, no! I may be totally obsessed with pizza, but I'm no stoner! Drugs are bad, dude! Never do 'em!! Cowabunga!! Mondo bizarro!

06-07-2007, 08:44 AM	#19
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,924	Putrescent enough with the old toon Michaelangelo is a stoner crap alright . Old toon Mike was a little bit more intelligent sounding than that people. I'm tired of all the refrences to him sounding like some kind of brain dead pothead. The eightes cartoon had him sound like a surfer because that was considered "cool" back then. Alot of cartoon characters had that surfer persona back in the eighties. And I know every one is going to challenge/flame me on this too But as to Splinter in FF...I'm still get used to his overly simplified character design. I really don't care for it. His eyebrows really stand out in a clashing sort of way that I find cringe-worthy. And yeah, he needs to lay off the soap-opras I wonder if he watches Passions on NBC. That soap is so horriable it would fry any ones brain make them act weird. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

06-07-2007, 01:27 PM	#20
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Hey, I ain't making fun of Mikey. I love old toon Mikey. In fact, a lot of my word choices and dialogue are thanks to the surfer Mikey. Especially cowabunga and holy guacamole and dude. After all, I think most everybody got hooked on TMNT because of the old toon. As for Splinter, I'll bet he watches Gilmore Girls.