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Machias Banshee
11-05-2008, 11:05 PM
Welcome, my dear readers!
Once more, I present a rough-and-tumble teaser with enough meat to sink your teeth into (or tofu, whichever your choose).
AS we saw last week, Shredder has been able to find himself the last information needed to make himself a web portal in order to come into the real world. And as all evil geniuses know, you don't just leap willy-nilly into a door without testing it..
So the turtles get to come out of the lair once again to deal with a mess of Shredder's test subjects. Mutants of every kind to run rampant in the city. Critters from all over the web - are we going to see the boys getting chased by those nasty aliens from Halo? Maybe some look-alikes from Doom or Quake.. more cameos of Moo Montana, and the C.O.W. Boys? who knows. What we Do know, is they're in for one hell of a fight. The chance of seeing Bishop in this (or any) episode at this point seems small, but we can't give up the idea. We're bound to see him at some point!
We will no doubt be seeing the boys delve into the cyberworld once more to stop Shredder from getting into the real world. While some still have a hard time warming up to the idea, we've been pleasantly surprised by most of the episodes so far this season - the entire work is better than the summary.
So consider these and other questions that may be posed to you as you watch this episode:
HOW WILL SHREDDER MAKE HIS CYBERPORTAL?!
COULD THE SHREDDER USE SOME OF SPLINTER'S DATA AS BLACKMAIL AGAINST THE TURTLES?!
WILL THE BOYS BE ABLE TO DESTROY SHREDDER'S PORTAL BEFORE HE ENTERS THE REAL WORLD?!
WHERE'S THE HOT WINGS AND FREE BEER?! - I swear if I could, I'd have it for everyone after this week.
And even though Congress tries to filibuster me when I say it...
STAY TUNED!!!
Machias Banshee
11-08-2008, 07:53 AM
Okay, folks... I'm opening the thread early today, if there's a mod here, please build a poll. I'll be back later tonight...
Andromeda32
11-08-2008, 08:05 AM
Whoohoo! My first time being able to see the new 'toon (no CW at home - visiting family).
My first question is, why are Raph and Leo wearing unitards?! Ick!
CyberCubed
11-08-2008, 08:33 AM
This ep was like the old Playmates toyline, find a new animal to mutate!
It was a fun episode overall, decent plot, nice action, its just too bad we didn't see much of the Foot fight. I loved what they did to Shredder at the end, boy will he be pissed now!
LOL @ Channel 6 news reporter with the yellow jacket.
VaughnMichael
11-08-2008, 08:33 AM
Boy This episode sure has some eye rolling moments so far.
The Turtles wearing clothing for starters, I mean I know Playmates is trying to sell those Mini Mutants but I don't know it just looks silly animated.
Was I the only person the notice Mikey's eye color kept changing?
And until Don said something about it being digital I was like how the hell is that Rat Monster breathing in the sewage?
The channel 6 news thing was great, could have only been better had they made it a Vernon look alike.
So this episode is ok, it's progressing the story I guess, seems sort of wasted though know how many we have left.
Is anyone else still getting an old Toon vibe? I'm seriously getting one with this back to the sewer series.
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed Donatello didn't make a comment or go after that Mutant Turtle.
Hah! That damn chipmunk is so freaking cute!
Seems like maybe this won't be such a waste of an episode after all if Shredder is finally going to get out.
We seriously need a good old to be continued, I think it would do this show some good.
Wow that was great at the end, that deformed mutated Shredder was insane looking I think that may be one of my all time favorite scenes now from the show.
And when he flung Khan and the new Foot Soldier out Khan hit his head off the lamp post, I was shocked he wasn't knocked out.
But now Shredder is back inside, leaving me feel as if this was indeed a wasted episode even with all the action and that great scene.
Oh and Shredder making that Exodus comment, reminded me his memory wasn't saved around that time period so I don't believe know knows all of that happened.
This ep was like the old Playmates toyline, find a new animal to mutate!
Hardly, at least with the old toon and Archie comics those mutants had personalities all their own.
Kunoichi_Haruko
11-08-2008, 08:34 AM
Yeah... the clothes...it's part of the new show. It's becoming a bit jarring, too.
Anyways, Great episode.
"I will love him and hug him and call him George." Is it me, or is Mikey getting funnier? :lol:
A plot hole (How was Don able to tell the rat was digital so easily? And then figure out it must have come from a picture from a nature website?) Maybe more time passed than what we saw in the show.
Mikey had an excellent idea! YAY!
Anyone else notice Kahn gets thrown around QUITE Frequently? And there's always some huge explosion?
Can't wait for next week. :D
Drtooth
11-08-2008, 08:36 AM
Pretty entertaining episode. Not absolutely as amazing as it could have been... and that extreme sports crap was so forced into the script. But we're definitely building up to something (too bad next week's episode seems like a FF concept they had left over).
I really wish more time was spent on the Shredder being a monster thing and rampaging through the city, instead of the last couple minutes of the show.
Anyone else think the giant Turtle was close to a Tokka reference? I mean, he had spikes on his back.
And I Just loved seeing that reference to channel 6 news.
ToTheNines
11-08-2008, 08:37 AM
Started like crap, but turned out to be a good episode... that accomplished almost nothing as far moving the story goes.
And please tell me that preview for next week's ep was a joke!
VaughnMichael
11-08-2008, 08:39 AM
And please tell me that preview for next week's ep was a joke!
Sadly, no it's not...seriously looked like a halloween episode or something.
This cyber sh1t is for the birds! And you know it's bad when I'm saying it!:lol:
maryshine
11-08-2008, 08:43 AM
Awesome episode today!
I liked how Leo said how he felt so useless! 'Bout time the writters let the other turtles how they feel about Master Splinter. Also nice to see some leadership from Leo again.
While this was a good episode, it reminded me of Good Genes from season four. What also was simular was the old TMNT toon. I almost laughted during the whole channel six reporter news.
I don't know how the shell they are going to wrap this series up in just four more episodes. Not only do we need to Cybra Shreeder to come back, but also Ch'rell and Karai.
Hey, I wonder how 'George' will get along with Kluk, LOL! I doubt we will see George again, but you never know!
Drtooth
11-08-2008, 09:15 AM
Sadly, no it's not...seriously looked like a halloween episode or something.
This cyber sh1t is for the birds! And you know it's bad when I'm saying it!:lol:
Nah, it looked like something for Fast Forward season 2 (or 3... I'm still confused about that). If it brings Shred head into the "Real" world, I'm all for it. But it's territory Duck Dodgers did a buzzillion times better.
kerfootw
11-08-2008, 09:19 AM
Not much to savor from this episode although I did like the King Kong and mutant turtle jokes and there were some nice moments from Leo (I'm STILL waiting to see Don in his stealth suit, urgh!) Hopefully Don upgraded their cyber suits after last episode.
Next week's episode though, as I mentioned already catching a sneak peek of in the "Identity Crisis" thread, looks good. Yes it looks filler but it also looks like it's going to be as hella funny as a "Supernatural" filler! Raph having to play as the court jester cracked me up and it's only going to get more funny when he turns into that frog! :lol:
Started like crap, but turned out to be a good episode... that accomplished almost nothing as far moving the story goes.
Change that to "turned out to be a meh episode" and that's my answer, exactly.
MrPliggins
11-08-2008, 10:12 AM
These episodes lately, while entertaining, aren't furthering the story any. I was half-thinking Shredder would return to reality, but if he did, the Turtles could get the rest of Splinter easily without a threat in the cyber-world. So I have a feeling Shredder won't return for another four episodes.. Also, weren't we supposed to see Usagi this season? I can't remember.
The other thing weird about this season is no mention of Bishop or Karai (ok, one cutscene). It seems that they've fallen off the face of the earth, just like Leatherhead and Fugitoid.
Shred Head
11-08-2008, 10:50 AM
This was a really good episode I'm not a fan of the cyber stuff I mean Cyber Mutant animals coming invading New York is well its not a really cool concept besides it was a recycled plot that was done better with Bishop on season 4. We finally get to see the turtles fight the new foot ninja it took what over half the damn season to show them. I also like the fact the Turtles felt more in character Mikey wasn't overly stupid in fact he was awesome the whole way through for once. The guys actaully felt bad for not being much help in finding Splinter and are actaully concerned. I liked some of the mutant animals they look creepy I especially loved the monster turtle now thats what a Dark Turtle should have looked like. Wished the Monster Cyber Shredder lasted longer it was also really cool. Also no Serling. :D
Now what I didn't like was the fact that this episode didn't advance the plot at all. I swear almost nothing from the main plotline has been advanced. What is everything that actaully matter will happen in the last two episodes? If so thats going to be a mess. The extreme sports gear was lame I dont mind them getting some exersise and and having some extreme sports fun but that was way to forced. Really thats about it.
Anyone else love that Khaun killed his Cyber Clone so ruthlessly that was awesome.
Jester
11-08-2008, 11:36 AM
Here it is the moment you've been waiting for! Maybe not....Jester's Running Commentary!(EDIT: I just notices with the new avatar, that Clopin quote totally works! :P)
Training montage!!
If Shredder could just pull a rat from the alley, why can't he just extract himself?? (EDIT: Oh...nature website photo....right...)
Donnie's IQ is 637?
So since daddy's away, the boys can play on the surface, sans disguises?
AHHH mutant rat!!! Oh, wait...:P
Man...they killed it...I guess nasty digital mutants can just be killed...:P
April??
"Not even a blond!" hehe King Kong Reference
TMNT and Guns....never been a big fan.
Tokka??
Wait, if those blasters worr on digital creations, couldn't the work on Cyber Shredder?
Hey, Shredder has a warthog and a rhino in his digital ark...:P
Khan clone....3 more for a matching set...:P
Wolverine....Saber-tooth...:P
OT Shredder liked animals...
A chipmunk...named George...
"And he's bringing home pets?" :P
Ah ha! Leave it to Donnie to explain away the dart blasters.
Mikey's got a good idea...for once...
Is it me, of do the Turtles in this episode look a lot like their OT counterparts?
Who are those 2 guys? Khan Elite??
Why do the Turtles have to be some wacky costumes...wow...earlier I was about thew lack of costumes...:P
A garrison of elite ninja...that are just recycled clips...:P
Digi-Foot?? And they decompile like Puttys.
Look out...Elasti-Cyber-Shredder...wait...wha?
Wow, even a corrupted mutant Shredder is still a bit of a hand full.
What is with Shredder and the phrase Exodus being used in tandem?
kerfootw
11-08-2008, 12:01 PM
Very good points Shred Head you nailed this episode (even though I particualrly didn't like it)! As for the last sentence, it really does look like that dart than Khan shot his doppleganger with was poisoned. I hope that's the case as well b/c one's bad enough. :(
P.S. Where'd you get that icon Jester? Do you have early access to episodes?
Aneras713
11-08-2008, 12:04 PM
"I will love him and hug him and call him George.":lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Priceless!
Next Episode: "I hate video games....ribbit.":lol: I almost feel sorry for poor Raph. Next thing you know Leo will turn into a normal turtle that talks, end up flat on his shell, and be like "Help I'm a turtle and I can't get up!":lol:
Raph's Girl
11-08-2008, 12:04 PM
Why can't they help Don find Splinter???
637 IQ?! WTF?!
That's one ugly mutant rat
That's a mouse?!
Oh hey...a red headed reporter wearing yellow on Channel 6 news....
King Kong?
Tokka?
Octopus?
Great...he's got a card game and made a zoo...
Shredder had alot of guinea pigs and mice and monkeys and octopi and reptiles and...
Wolverine and Sabertooth?!
Nope...Chipmunk...*L*
Flying Chipmunk?
Will Klunk eat George?
Mikey smart...
Ok Mike and Don!
Wooh...ninja outfits!
Lion's den?? Looks more like the Cerebro room...
Whoa....Don litterally got under the hood
Cyber foot
Free??
Kaaaaahn...bonk...
Try never
Shredder blowed up good
Interesting ep. Don found a way to defeat the creatures a bit too quick IMO. But I love it when they wear their ninja outfits. Especially Raph... :evilgrin:
I suppose tho that if they were so insistant on having a TMNT card show they got it with Shredder's zoo in this ep.
Best parts of the ep where the red headed channel 6 news reporter wearing yellow (was her name April or Irma?)
and George the Squirrel.
Next week: Mikey's a wizard and Raph's a Court Jester...frog...*lol*
Now for a couple questions:
1: Why can't the turtles help Don find Splinter?
Quotes:
"I will love him and cuddle him and call him George!" - Mikey
Aneras713
11-08-2008, 12:07 PM
.......................637 IQ.................is that even possible?
CyberCubed
11-08-2008, 12:10 PM
"I will love him and hug him and call him George.":lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Priceless!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that funny. :lol:
maryshine
11-08-2008, 12:17 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that funny. :lol:
Me 2! I only wish we saw Kluk's reaction to George!
TerranigmaFreak
11-08-2008, 12:30 PM
.......................637 IQ.................is that even possible?
How else do you explain Donny being able to create a machine that can send them to the digital world?
I found this episode very enjoyable. Kahn getting thrown out actually looks brutal. I love how they went into detail showing everything he hits on the way down.
Cipher
11-08-2008, 12:36 PM
How else do you explain Donny being able to create a machine that can send them to the digital world?Or making a frickin' flying car in the second episode of the series out of junkyard scraps? Don's intellegence has been so ridiculous throughout the show that a 637 IQ is actually the most plausible explanation we have...and it's still ridiculous.
Anyway, I slept through the TV premiere this morning, and I've only seen the first part on a certain "tube" so far. I've really enjoyed the first ten minutes, though.
Aneras713
11-08-2008, 12:37 PM
How else do you explain Donny being able to create a machine that can send them to the digital world?
...................Good point.
cowabunga14
11-08-2008, 12:43 PM
This episode was pretty good, I think. It started out kinda poorly, but ended up redeeming itself. I guess it was a good thing that I didn't expect much.
The mutants were kinda neat even though they had somewhat of a cyber aspect. In a way, they reminded of something I'd see in a B movie, especially because Mikey referenced King Kong. Plus, the scenes where the Turtles encountered the mutants made for some good action.
All in all, this episode felt above average and the humor was nice. The cyber aspect didn't bother me as much as before, so that was relief. Next week's looks like it'll be decent.
FlawedCoil82
11-08-2008, 12:44 PM
Another episode that did absolutely nothing for me. And from the preview, I can name 437,598 things I would rather do than watch next weekend's episode. I believe this series is officially dead now unless they REALLY impress me on the final few episodes. And.....they were in their black ninja/cybernaught uniforms again during the fights. Shocking... :roll:
Jack
Machias Banshee
11-08-2008, 12:54 PM
Well, I'm back sooner than expected. I'll post a poll asap.
Now, while watching, a thought came to me. Shredder was taking pictures from the internet, sending them through his portal, with an end product of a solid physical form. If they were able to take a picture of Splinter while on the cyberside, couldn't they make a REAL copy of him and send it to the real world?
It seems that this could have been a major step in their mission - They may have just destroyed the one thing that could have brought Splinter. He wouldn't be a fully organic form, however... perhaps this is why they did not think of it? Perhaps the digital darts would have been too much of a danger to him. Or, if they had continued getting his parts from the internet, they'd have to face the idea of killing off one of their Splinters.
This question becomes a bit of a Frankensteinian moral dilemma. Would their copy of Splinter be a true living thing, or just a copy with no emotional memory?
In all, I found it a mediocre episode that really didn't push any storylines. I would give it two out of five stars. They missed an opportunity to do something to create some new interest and maybe even a little controversy. And after seeing the preview for next week's 'jump in a videogame' episode, my guess is that we'll be seeing some new lows in the season...
Cipher
11-08-2008, 01:03 PM
I just saw the whole thing. I could post my opinions, but why bother, since Cowabunga14 expressed them pretty much exactly. It was a fun episode with decent humor and action, but nothing jaw-dropping.
Is there a place where I can see next week's preview online?
In all, I found it a mediocre episode that really didn't push any storylines. I would give it two out of five stars. They missed an opportunity to do something to create some new interest and maybe even a little controversy.I think people keep forgetting that the series is, and has always ostensibly been a children's cartoon. Even in the darkest depths of say, Season 4, they never would've tackled questions of identity and cloning morality. Seriously.
Machias Banshee
11-08-2008, 01:08 PM
That's very true, it Is a kid's show. This was just a comment solely for side discussion here, cuz of the uber-analyzers we've got here on the forum. ;)
Ninjinister
11-08-2008, 01:30 PM
I think people keep forgetting that the series is, and has always ostensibly been a children's cartoon. Even in the darkest depths of say, Season 4, they never would've tackled questions of identity and cloning morality. Seriously.
Oh really? Are you forgetting Splinter's speech to Bishop about playing God with his genetic experiments, which included creating a clone of both of them in The Ultimate Slayer?
I'm hoping that someone from The Turtles' lives will end up as one of the gamers in next week's episode... maybe Leatherhead is this legendary gamer they're referring to? I'm pretty sure he has other interests than building transmats and whining about being a monster, lol. Also from the short clip that aired after the episode, it looks like Shredder is in the game.
Cipher
11-08-2008, 01:34 PM
Oh really? Are you forgetting Splinter's speech to Bishop about playing God with his genetic experiments, which included creating a clone of both of them in The Ultimate Slayer?Telling Bishop to not play God is a throw away one-liner in typical action adventure style. It was a cut-and-dried evil clone scenario. A little edgy for a kid's cartoon, but honestly, if I was in charge and someone brought me a script that had the Turtles wrestling with the moral implications of creating a new Splinter and where his identity lay and whether or not to kill one of them, I'd say, "No way."
But I wasn't trying to start an argument, and neither was Machias Banshee, so it's not really important. Just remember that it's a kid's show.
Machias Banshee
11-08-2008, 01:55 PM
Heh, I'm just an instigator... ;) Poll's open!
Ninjinister
11-08-2008, 02:06 PM
Telling Bishop to not play God is a throw away one-liner in typical action adventure style. It was a cut-and-dried evil clone scenario. A little edgy for a kid's cartoon, but honestly, if I was in charge and someone brought me a script that had the Turtles wrestling with the moral implications of creating a new Splinter and where his identity lay and whether or not to kill one of them, I'd say, "No way."
But I wasn't trying to start an argument, and neither was Machias Banshee, so it's not really important. Just remember that it's a kid's show.
Who the flip was arguing? I was just interjecting what I thought was a relevant incident in which a character was warned about the moral issues of his actions. Hell, even the mention of God in this day and age in a children's cartoon gets a red flag from some soccer moms, let alone accusing someone of emulating him. Apparently, in the event of the Judeo-Christian soccer moms, you're allowed to worship him, but not have him mentioned in children's programming. I remember an uproar over a couple of episodes of the 90's X-Men.
Anyway, dude, I'm not trying to be your adversary. We can discuss without an anything being an argument.
Would their copy of Splinter be a true living thing, or just a copy with no emotional memory?
Given the reaction of Khan's digital copy, do you even need to ask? Besides, if it was your dad missing with a small chance of getting him back (with some hard work and determination), wouldn't you go the extra mile instead of comissioning your local mad scientist to make a clone of him?
Aska_Badoura
11-08-2008, 02:45 PM
I was gratified to hear the explanation for why the guys haven't been helping a lot with getting Splinter's data back... just what I thought, they feel out of their league, and that it's best to stay out of Donnie's way. Yay for stating it implicitly. :goofygri:
Ew at third rail and rat-critter... :ohwell:
I chuckled at the "chipmunk" (Overlooking that it's actually a squirrel...;)) swimming around in whatever suspension Don had it in. Though the argument that a fully-formed creature wouldn't be dart-able is rather silly... either way, it's still data, just well-formed data instead of bad data. :|
As far as I know, sewage does not sit exposed in open vats on rooftops... nor does it glow... http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/Zakiyah/emoticons/unsure.gif Eh, let the painters have their fun, I guess, LOL.
I'm starting to be quite convinced that Karai has a BTtS design solely for that tiny cameo she got earlier on... and even then, half of the appearance was reused footage. I'm pretty sad, but I guess they wanted to make the Foot more accessable to people new to the show, who wouldn't necessarily know who Karai is. Perhaps the same goes for Bishop; they feel like their stories are too complicated to reintroduce? Their positions are too ambiguous, maybe? It seems like they want more black and white "good and "bad" this season, though that doesn't explain Baxter's somewhat ambiguous position earlier on... I don't know. I hope to be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not holding my breath.
Machias has some good points about using the Shredder's portal to bring Splinter back; but yeah, as you say... it's not quite the same as actually recovering him (especially if it didn't capture everything that makes him him, so to speak), and if they did later on, they would find themselves with two Splinters. That... would be awkward. :lol: Though it does open up new possibilities... transcendental lathe that can make organic creatures? Or maybe it always could do that...
oldmanwinters
11-08-2008, 02:48 PM
Even the mention of God in this day and age in a children's cartoon gets a red flag from some soccer moms, let alone accusing someone of emulating him. Apparently, in the event of the Judeo-Christian soccer moms, you're allowed to worship him, but not have him mentioned in children's programming. I remember an uproar over a couple of episodes of the 90's X-Men.
Exactly. As a Christian who is actually studying for ministry in a very conservative seminary, this quote made my day. :D You're right on, The S! Now let's all mums the word on the subject. :P
And I thought Mikey was genuinely funny in this episode without being an idiot. Kudos to the writers.
Jester
11-08-2008, 03:47 PM
Why can't they help Don find Splinter???
637 IQ?! WTF?!
That's one ugly mutant rat
That's a mouse?!
Oh hey...a red headed reporter wearing yellow on Channel 6 news....
King Kong?
Tokka?
Octopus?
Great...he's got a card game and made a zoo...
Shredder had alot of guinea pigs and mice and monkeys and octopi and reptiles and...
Wolverine and Sabertooth?!
Nope...Chipmunk...*L*
Flying Chipmunk?
Will Klunk eat George?
Mikey smart...
Ok Mike and Don!
Wooh...ninja outfits!
Lion's den?? Looks more like the Cerebro room...
Whoa....Don litterally got under the hood
Cyber foot
Free??
Kaaaaahn...bonk...
Try never
Shredder blowed up good
Interesting ep. Don found a way to defeat the creatures a bit too quick IMO. But I love it when they wear their ninja outfits. Especially Raph... :evilgrin:
I suppose tho that if they were so insistant on having a TMNT card show they got it with Shredder's zoo in this ep.
Best parts of the ep where the red headed channel 6 news reporter wearing yellow (was her name April or Irma?)
and George the Squirrel.
Next week: Mikey's a wizard and Raph's a Court Jester...frog...*lol*
Now for a couple questions:
1: Why can't the turtles help Don find Splinter?
Quotes:
"I will love him and cuddle him and call him George!" - Mikey
Hey! You're stealing my schtick!!
silverdragon
11-08-2008, 03:58 PM
at least they finally gave an explanation as to why they aren't helping Don.
So why do they keep wearing clothes now? Maybe its chilly out -they are cold blooded:ohwell:, just my random guess...its that or playmates keep kidnapping them:evil:
I though the mutants - some of them anyway - looked pretty cool - especially the turtle and wolves!:D
I was a bit 'eh' on cybershredder coming out, but I thought Khan just killing his clone like that so quickly was just despicable -I liked!:evilgrin:
Um...don getting 'under the hood'?:o
Soo...the chipmunk turned into real life? The turtles change to data and back again, so I guess...cyber just makes my head spin...:sick::dead:
Jester
11-08-2008, 04:05 PM
I though the mutants - some of them anyway - looked pretty cool - especially the turtle and wolves!:D
Heck, can't believe I forgot the wolves! we had Tokka and Rahzar! :P
kerfootw
11-08-2008, 04:14 PM
[QUOTE=Cipher;646053]Or making a frickin' flying car in the second episode of the series out of junkyard scraps? Don's intellegence has been so ridiculous throughout the show that a 637 IQ is actually the most plausible explanation we have...and it's still ridiculous.[QUOTE]
Raph must either be a good guesser or he's exaggerating like he does quite a bit. Like I've said about Don, he could rule the world due to how smart he is (so why hasn't he?) After all, Adrian Veidt, was the smartest man in the world in the Watchmen universe and he did it. Does anyone know what his IQ was?
I also liked Mikey and the whole "George" thing as well.
Scandia
11-08-2008, 04:59 PM
No comment regarding the Spandex. Can't figure out why they put this.
And I think Raph exaggerated on Donnie's IQ.
Loved the Channel 6 tribute.
Raph's Girl
11-08-2008, 05:41 PM
Hey! You're stealing my schtick!!
Eh not really. I used to do it with the previous seasons. I've been doing commentary like that since the late 90's. *shrugs* I did the commentary with the first ep of this season as well.
Kendamu
11-08-2008, 06:20 PM
.......................637 IQ.................is that even possible?
Either Raph knows nothing of how an IQ works or he was just throwing out a random ridiculous number just to be funny.
Cipher
11-08-2008, 06:33 PM
Either Raph knows nothing of how an IQ works or he was just throwing out a random ridiculous number just to be funny.Too late! It's canon now! Nerdy debates will rage over Donatello's IQ for deades to come! I shall edit Wikipedia to include the figure as absolute, undeniable fact.
Then I'll cry myself to sleep.
VaughnMichael
11-08-2008, 06:42 PM
Nah, it looked like something for Fast Forward season 2 (or 3... I'm still confused about that). If it brings Shred head into the "Real" world, I'm all for it. But it's territory Duck Dodgers did a buzzillion times better.
It may have looked like a preview from FF that they used to show but I'm gonna be real honest here, I still enjoy Fast Forward more than this rushed wasted mess they call a season.
These episodes lately, while entertaining, aren't furthering the story any. I was half-thinking Shredder would return to reality, but if he did, the Turtles could get the rest of Splinter easily without a threat in the cyber-world. So I have a feeling Shredder won't return for another four episodes.. Also, weren't we supposed to see Usagi this season? I can't remember.
Usagi & Gen will be at april & Casey's Wedding.
Quotes:
"I will love him and cuddle him and call him George!" - Mikey
You guys do realize that's a reference to a Bugs Bunny cartoon right?
Hey! You're stealing my schtick!!
Wouldn't be anything new there...:roll:
No comment regarding the Spandex. Can't figure out why they put this.
It's not that hard to figure out that they're trying to sell the newest TMNT toys.
Why CAN'T his IQ be 637? It's a cartoon, anything is possible.
Ninjinister
11-08-2008, 06:46 PM
You guys do realize that's a reference to a Bugs Bunny cartoon right?
Which in turn was a parody of Of Mice & Men.
It's not that hard to figure out that they're trying to sell the newest TMNT toys.
Yeah, because they sure as hell aren't releasing any actually BASED on this season any time soon, if at all.
Raph's Girl
11-08-2008, 08:19 PM
Why CAN'T his IQ be 637? It's a cartoon, anything is possible.
Before today the highest IQ I've heard in an animated tv series was Sailor Mercury's, which is 300 (she only attends school to help her friends. *L*).
IRL the smartest person I know is my cousin Tanner who's IQ was registered at 172 when he was 3 (he's now 13).
Im thinking that Raph definatly was just spouting random numbers. Don's IQ is probably around 200. Da Vinci and Michelangelo Bounarati's were 180. Albert Einstein's was 160. Both Einstein and Michelangelo are believed to have had Aspergers syndrome.
But man with an IQ like that Don needs to join Mensa, the Genius Society or heck...he could become the 27th member of the Mega Society. :lol:
blue_angel99
11-08-2008, 09:01 PM
This was a good episode (kinda boring at times) While I cringed during the first three minutes (turtles are not meant to wear spandex :sick:), there were some funny moments. I was most shocked when Khan "killed" his cyber clone!!
Next weeks episode looks hilarious!
I saw the 7 minute preview at 4KIDS. Raph joking about bein Orcs and Don just standing there all serious was just great. I love how they're dressed up: Don as a wizard, Leo as a furry animal shifter, Mike as a shining knight and Raph as a jester is just too funny.
Ninjinister
11-08-2008, 09:37 PM
I know most of you despise the Stealth Suit TMNT, but you wouldn't believe how many fangirls on other sites are in love with them.... >.<
kerfootw
11-08-2008, 09:39 PM
What do you mean by "most"? I haven't seen very many complaints against the stealth suits. The spandex, yes; the suits, at least not very much.
Ninjinister
11-08-2008, 09:45 PM
What do you mean by "most"? I haven't seen very many complaints against the stealth suits. The spandex, yes; the suits, at least not very much.
Isn't that what they were referring to?
kerfootw
11-08-2008, 09:52 PM
I think we're still referring to the stealth suits as stealth suits so I think that "most" are complaining againt the spandex. Like I said, I haven't seen very many complaints about the stealth suits in comparison to the spandex in today's episode.
Ninjinister
11-08-2008, 10:33 PM
I think we're still referring to the stealth suits as stealth suits so I think that "most" are complaining againt the spandex. Like I said, I haven't seen very many complaints about the stealth suits in comparison to the spandex in today's episode.
Okay, I thought everyone was saying the stealth suits were spandex. Is is instead the sports clothes?
kerfootw
11-08-2008, 10:56 PM
Yes it is.
Why does Shredder need a web portal anyway? Why doesn't he just download himself to a Shredder exo suit? I mean he already shown that he could take over Stockman's body.
Guitar_Raph
11-09-2008, 03:51 AM
Loved the Bugs Bunny reference Mikey made. It was used on two Bugs Bunny cartoons; a 1961 short with Daffy Duck (The Abominable Snow Rabbit) and a 1980 short with Marvin the Martian (Spaced Out Bunny).
Gotta like the opening scene after the theme, where Raph, Mikey & Leo sported clothes & rode their vehicles. The only one who really wore a Spandex was Mikey. So cool! Mikey's the Turtle!
Why does Shredder need a web portal anyway? Why doesn't he just download himself to a Shredder exo suit? I mean he already shown that he could take over Stockman's body.
If he did that, he'd have to either wait too long for the transfer to complete or leave a vulnerability in cyberspace as he pilots the thing via remote access. As was seen, taking over Baxter was already unsuccessful. So, he doesn't care to try that option again.
Drtooth
11-09-2008, 07:58 AM
Let's all come clean and realize something....
Shredder SHOULD have came out of the cyberworld in this episode. If not, somehow in the next one. I can't say that this didn't help further the plot, but ending it the way they did really was a wasted opportunity.
Plus, there really was the potential in a brief Bishop cameo... him popping up and saying, "I thought we got rid of all of them!!!"
It may have looked like a preview from FF that they used to show but I'm gonna be real honest here, I still enjoy Fast Forward more than this rushed wasted mess they call a season.
I understand what you're saying... this season started out really strong, but the last few episodes just seemed off. Especially next week's, which is exactly like the Halo... errr... Helix episode from FF. Only thing I think this season really has on FF is they planned to have a lot more structure. Too bad they blew that structure lately.
kerfootw
11-09-2008, 08:13 AM
Im thinking that Raph definatly was just spouting random numbers. Don's IQ is probably around 200. Da Vinci and Michelangelo Bounarati's were 180. Albert Einstein's was 160. Both Einstein and Michelangelo are believed to have had Aspergers syndrome.
But man with an IQ like that Don needs to join Mensa, the Genius Society or heck...he could become the 27th member of the Mega Society. :lol:
While that would seem the logical answer, don't forget about all the stuff he's been able to do throughout the series that would support Raph's big number--after all, 200 ain't 637. Still, with all the stuff he's done, you'd think he wouldn't be beaten by a virus a week ago. :lol:
Buslady
11-09-2008, 08:54 AM
Whoohoo! My first time being able to see the new 'toon (no CW at home - visiting family).
My first question is, why are Raph and Leo wearing unitards?! Ick!
Raph wasnt wearing unitards, more like bike pants.
Leo's the dork, he wears anything.
Raph's shoulda been black at least.
OK ep. nice teamwork.
Scrabblemouse
11-09-2008, 10:58 AM
Like a Johnny Depp rolling down a hill in chocolate, this just got better and better...:P
It was off to a 'meh' start with a few recycled themes, such as the XTREME!!! sports bit, the mutant animals and the monster-hunting, but those bits could be forgiven for the kick-ass fighting and fairly decent blend of action and comedy...as explained...
Positives:
- Leo commenting on the Splinter situation was a nice lead on from the previous episodes. After Don's epiphany in 'Hacking Stockman', it was a good touch of continuity to have the others acknowledging that not everything is back to normal and Don is still working his shell off.
- Something finally died! This may sound weird but I always thought that one of the defining points of the first five seasons was that it showed some realism - people die, it happens. I know it was only a mutant rat (a non-talking one) but still...the only way is up! :)
- I think the writers must have had a movie night recently! I loved the Ghostbusters-style scanner that Don had :lol: And did anyone else think Silent Hill when the mutant Shredder went all red and wibbly? Great little touches, even if they weren't intentional.
- A fair bit of action, particularly at the end. Plus, all the guys were involved so Don wasn't left behind to man the phones :)
- Mikey and Raph seem to be getting back on track with the humour side of things. Maybe they locked Serling in a cupboard for taking all the best lines...?
Not-so-positives:
- I'm not sure whether this episode was a nod to the previous ones or was simply a recycled plot? Having Monster Don's distant cousin and other mutated animals turn up made me smile, but the whole thing merely reminded me that this simply isn't as good as season four...
- I wasn't entirely clear on the whole Real vs Digital thing. If the chipmunk was real, why didn't it drown in that tube thing? And how did Khan take out his double? Did he steal Don's darts? This didn't bother me too much because in all likelihood, the rules will have changed again by next week...a benefit of making it up as you go along I suppose...:roll:
- They didn't need black suits before, so why now? It makes them look like the Michelin Man dunked in tar...
- In season one/two, they rode bikes, scooters, etc...without helmets. Again, I say - why now? Has being in the future made them safety conscious?
- And finally, I'm sure Leo is not going to leave his scooter outfit in the school locker room so I don't think he needs his name sown on the front...:roll:
So, in conclusion, a pretty solid episode, let down by only a few daft moments. Hopefully the plot will begin to pick up soon and we'll get to see some more action coupled with a decent storyline.
Or failing that, the Turtles will become exterminators for the City....:D Good work if you can get it...
Harukuro
11-09-2008, 12:29 PM
This episode was pretty good. All the mutants were interesting design wise, too bad they only had a short amount of screen time. I wonder if they'll keep 'George' :P. Also Mike seems to have gotten a lot more active in this season in terms of what he contributes to the team. The scene with the Foot HQ getting destroyed thanks to Cyber Shredder made me feel bad for the Foot Soldiers... Any way next week looks...intesting with Raph wearing a Harley Quinn cosplay. :lol:
Leonardo15
11-10-2008, 06:30 AM
My Review:
I was wondering why Leo wasn't acting himself a few episodes. It's bit on the late side to explain he felt useless for not helping out finding Splinter's bits. Okay, at least I know now.
I believe Donnie's IQ is 637. He's a genius, how many people has his knowledge?:-)
I found it neat that Leo used his scotter as a weapon against that digital mutant mouse.
If that mouse was digital how could it die at all? :???:
Oh look there's another homeage to old TMNT series!:P Channel six, the yellow suit, and is her name April too?
I love it when they jump the rooftops, so glad BttS has scenes like these, feels like 2K3 again, including buildings or stuff blowing up.:-)
There's something about extra legs that gives me the creeps. I feel sorry for those clone animals who look more like a huge twisted version of themselves. It reminds me of this hybrid bug I saw 2 weeks ago with too many legs.
Was that that mutated turtle an alligator snapping turtle?
I guess all the clone animals are going to a zoo.
Was that a poison dart, Khan shot into his clone?
The part about Mikey said "I will love, and hug him, and call him George." Reminded me of Looney Toons, It usually went like this. "I will call him George, I will love him, and kiss him, and hug him." Or something like that.
Since when did chimpmunks have long tails? :/
So whenever the TMNT are going to fight their going to wear uniforms now??:???:
It doesn't bother me. I remember that quote from the episode "Fallen Angel"
Leonardo:What is the deal with humans and clothes?In the same episode he mentioned it was too hard to move in them. And now he's fine with clothes. In fact, they all wear them now, like it's an everyday thing when they go outside their home or somewhere else.
I knew Don was going to something to Cyber Shredder's portal, but I didn't know he was going to digital that way and destroy it.
Mutant Cyber Shredder was plain weird.
It's a good thing the TMNT stop Shredder before he came to real world. Don't just love those hero speeches at the end. I'm glad Leo's going to act like himself again.
So, this episode ends with Shredder throwing another fit about Turtles destroying his plans and he'll plans making them part of his Exodus.
This was great episode, although I like last weekends better. The Turtles eyes kept changing colors again, I guess I gotta get use to that happening.
Next Week:Here's a description from the next episode.
SuperQuest
The good news is the Turtles have found more data! The bad news is they're imbedded within Mikey's favorite online video game, SuperQuest! To get the bits, out heroes must enter the game, fight their way through various levels--and complete against gamers from all over the world!
I saw the preview on TV I know Don's a wizard, Mikey's a knight, and Raph's a joker, but what is Leo suppose to be?
Drtooth
11-10-2008, 07:26 AM
All I'm saying... they better finish off the Splinter stuff or bring Shredder into the "real World" (I always detested that saying in a cartoon show) with this next one.
Cipher
11-10-2008, 10:03 AM
I love it when they jump the rooftops, so glad BttS has scenes like these, feels like 2K3 again, including buildings or stuff blowing up.Since when is "blowing stuff up" a 2K3 thing? O'Neil Tech blew up like once a week in Fast Foward. They even made a joke about it in one episode.
And is it even that important? I swear people will come up with the most random reasons why the first five seasons and Back to the Sewers are supposed to be better...
Ninjinister
11-10-2008, 10:08 AM
He's a shape shifter.
Maybe it's because I don't play much fantasy RPGs anymore, but mythologically speaking, he's dressed more like a Berzerker.
kerfootw
11-10-2008, 10:58 AM
Actually, he looks more like himself with a bear mat on (and he's being referred to as a changeling if there's a difference).
Ninjinister
11-10-2008, 11:31 AM
Actually, he looks more like himself with a bear mat on (and he's being referred to as a changeling if there's a difference).
Just for ease of access, quoth Wikipedia:
Berserkers (or Berserks) (Swedish: Bärsärk) were Norse warriors who wore coats of wolf or bear skin and who were commonly understood to have fought in an uncontrollable rage or trance of fury, hence the modern word berserk.
In fiction, sometimes the coat will transform a wearer into that animal, similar to a variation of the legend of the skin-walker.
The part about Mikey said "I will love, and hug him, and call him George." Reminded me of Looney Toons, It usually went like this. "I will call him George, I will love him, and kiss him, and hug him." Or something like that.
"And, I will pat him, and pat him..."
Harukuro
11-10-2008, 05:02 PM
Maybe it's because I don't play much fantasy RPGs anymore, but mythologically speaking, he's dressed more like a Berzerker.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing...and I actually play RPGs. (Like Fire Emblem not Dungeons & Dragons)
maryshine
11-10-2008, 09:05 PM
Let's all come clean and realize something....
Plus, there really was the potential in a brief Bishop cameo... him popping up and saying, "I thought we got rid of all of them!!!"
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LOL! I was thinking that too. WHere is Bishop? Can't the writters try to have him or Karai back? Geez!!
BubblyShell22
11-11-2008, 08:00 AM
This was an okay episode, but it wasn't that great. The mutants looked cool as did the outfits and weapons the Turtles sported. I liked the fact that Mikey came up with the plan, proving that he can be useful when the situation calls for it. I also was glad that Leo explained how everyone felt useless in the search for Splinter. This proves that they do want to help, but they don't have the knowledge to do so and they want to stay out of Don's way so he can do this himself.
I loved Mikey's quote about the squirrel. That was cute. So, Cyber Shredder was defeated, but now he's gonna enact revenge. Doesn't surprise me any. My guess is that his revenge will be enacted in next week's ep, which looks okay, but I'll have to watch it to really judge it.
Avatar Yuffie
11-11-2008, 11:26 PM
Favorite Scenes:
I like Leo using his board to attack digital animals.
Man: Mutant Turtle!
Raph: They still don't like us!
*gets attacked by mutant turtle*
Me: LOL
Mikey figuring out a plan and did that cool shield/nunchuck/energy thingie? Awesome.
odupianist
11-12-2008, 07:04 AM
Yeah I Was impressed how much they used Mike in a good light in this episode. The plan, the fighting. My one gripe is that Leo had his name on his shirt, seriously? c'mon people.
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