Official Episode Discussion: "Web Wranglers"

**Machias Banshee** · 11-06-2008, 12:05 AM

Welcome, my dear readers!

Once more, I present a rough-and-tumble teaser with enough meat to sink your teeth into (or tofu, whichever your choose).

AS we saw last week, Shredder has been able to find himself the last information needed to make himself a web portal in order to come into the real world. And as all evil geniuses know, you don't just leap willy-nilly into a door without testing it..

So the turtles get to come out of the lair once again to deal with a mess of Shredder's test subjects. Mutants of every kind to run rampant in the city. Critters from all over the web - are we going to see the boys getting chased by those nasty aliens from Halo? Maybe some look-alikes from Doom or Quake.. more cameos of Moo Montana, and the C.O.W. Boys? who knows. What we Do know, is they're in for one hell of a fight. The chance of seeing Bishop in this (or any) episode at this point seems small, but we can't give up the idea. We're bound to see him at some point!

We will no doubt be seeing the boys delve into the cyberworld once more to stop Shredder from getting into the real world. While some still have a hard time warming up to the idea, we've been pleasantly surprised by most of the episodes so far this season - the entire work is better than the summary.

So consider these and other questions that may be posed to you as you watch this episode:

HOW WILL SHREDDER MAKE HIS CYBERPORTAL?!
COULD THE SHREDDER USE SOME OF SPLINTER'S DATA AS BLACKMAIL AGAINST THE TURTLES?!
WILL THE BOYS BE ABLE TO DESTROY SHREDDER'S PORTAL BEFORE HE ENTERS THE REAL WORLD?!
WHERE'S THE HOT WINGS AND FREE BEER?! - I swear if I could, I'd have it for everyone after this week.

And even though Congress tries to filibuster me when I say it...

STAY TUNED!!!

**Machias Banshee** · 11-08-2008, 08:53 AM

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Andromeda32 · 11-08-2008, 09:05 AM

Whoohoo! My first time being able to see the new 'toon (no CW at home - visiting family).

My first question is, why are Raph and Leo wearing unitards?! Ick!

*CyberCubed* · 11-08-2008, 09:33 AM

This ep was like the old Playmates toyline, find a new animal to mutate!

It was a fun episode overall, decent plot, nice action, its just too bad we didn't see much of the Foot fight. I loved what they did to Shredder at the end, boy will he be pissed now!

LOL @ Channel 6 news reporter with the yellow jacket.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-08-2008, 09:33 AM

Boy This episode sure has some eye rolling moments so far.
The Turtles wearing clothing for starters, I mean I know Playmates is trying to sell those Mini Mutants but I don't know it just looks silly animated.
Was I the only person the notice Mikey's eye color kept changing?
And until Don said something about it being digital I was like how the hell is that Rat Monster breathing in the sewage?
The channel 6 news thing was great, could have only been better had they made it a Vernon look alike.
So this episode is ok, it's progressing the story I guess, seems sort of wasted though know how many we have left.
Is anyone else still getting an old Toon vibe? I'm seriously getting one with this back to the sewer series.
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed Donatello didn't make a comment or go after that Mutant Turtle.
Hah! That damn chipmunk is so freaking cute!
Seems like maybe this won't be such a waste of an episode after all if Shredder is finally going to get out.
We seriously need a good old to be continued, I think it would do this show some good.
Wow that was great at the end, that deformed mutated Shredder was insane looking I think that may be one of my all time favorite scenes now from the show.
And when he flung Khan and the new Foot Soldier out Khan hit his head off the lamp post, I was shocked he wasn't knocked out.
But now Shredder is back inside, leaving me feel as if this was indeed a wasted episode even with all the action and that great scene.
Oh and Shredder making that Exodus comment, reminded me his memory wasn't saved around that time period so I don't believe know knows all of that happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This ep was like the old Playmates toyline, find a new animal to mutate!

Hardly, at least with the old toon and Archie comics those mutants had personalities all their own.

*Kunoichi_Haruko* · 11-08-2008, 09:34 AM

Yeah... the clothes...it's part of the new show. It's becoming a bit jarring, too.

Anyways, Great episode.
"I will love him and hug him and call him George." Is it me, or is Mikey getting funnier?

A plot hole (How was Don able to tell the rat was digital so easily? And then figure out it must have come from a picture from a nature website?) Maybe more time passed than what we saw in the show.

Mikey had an excellent idea! YAY!

Anyone else notice Kahn gets thrown around QUITE Frequently? And there's always some huge explosion?

Can't wait for next week.

*Drtooth* · 11-08-2008, 09:36 AM

Pretty entertaining episode. Not absolutely as amazing as it could have been... and that extreme sports crap was so forced into the script. But we're definitely building up to something (too bad next week's episode seems like a FF concept they had left over).

I really wish more time was spent on the Shredder being a monster thing and rampaging through the city, instead of the last couple minutes of the show.

Anyone else think the giant Turtle was close to a Tokka reference? I mean, he had spikes on his back.

And I Just loved seeing that reference to channel 6 news.

*ToTheNines* · 11-08-2008, 09:37 AM

Started like crap, but turned out to be a good episode... that accomplished almost nothing as far moving the story goes.

And please tell me that preview for next week's ep was a joke!

*VaughnMichael* · 11-08-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

And please tell me that preview for next week's ep was a joke!

Sadly, no it's not...seriously looked like a halloween episode or something.
This cyber sh1t is for the birds! And you know it's bad when I'm saying it!

maryshine · 11-08-2008, 09:43 AM

Awesome episode today!

I liked how Leo said how he felt so useless! 'Bout time the writters let the other turtles how they feel about Master Splinter. Also nice to see some leadership from Leo again.

While this was a good episode, it reminded me of Good Genes from season four. What also was simular was the old TMNT toon. I almost laughted during the whole channel six reporter news.

I don't know how the shell they are going to wrap this series up in just four more episodes. Not only do we need to Cybra Shreeder to come back, but also Ch'rell and Karai.

Hey, I wonder how 'George' will get along with Kluk, LOL! I doubt we will see George again, but you never know!

*Drtooth* · 11-08-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaughnMichael

Sadly, no it's not...seriously looked like a halloween episode or something.
This cyber sh1t is for the birds! And you know it's bad when I'm saying it!

Nah, it looked like something for Fast Forward season 2 (or 3... I'm still confused about that). If it brings Shred head into the "Real" world, I'm all for it. But it's territory Duck Dodgers did a buzzillion times better.

kerfootw · 11-08-2008, 10:19 AM

Not much to savor from this episode although I did like the King Kong and mutant turtle jokes and there were some nice moments from Leo (I'm STILL waiting to see Don in his stealth suit, urgh!) Hopefully Don upgraded their cyber suits after last episode.
Next week's episode though, as I mentioned already catching a sneak peek of in the "Identity Crisis" thread, looks good. Yes it looks filler but it also looks like it's going to be as hella funny as a "Supernatural" filler! Raph having to play as the court jester cracked me up and it's only going to get more funny when he turns into that frog!

*gobo* · 11-08-2008, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Started like crap, but turned out to be a good episode... that accomplished almost nothing as far moving the story goes.

Change that to "turned out to be a meh episode" and that's my answer, exactly.

*MrPliggins* · 11-08-2008, 11:12 AM

These episodes lately, while entertaining, aren't furthering the story any. I was half-thinking Shredder would return to reality, but if he did, the Turtles could get the rest of Splinter easily without a threat in the cyber-world. So I have a feeling Shredder won't return for another four episodes.. Also, weren't we supposed to see Usagi this season? I can't remember.

The other thing weird about this season is no mention of Bishop or Karai (ok, one cutscene). It seems that they've fallen off the face of the earth, just like Leatherhead and Fugitoid.

Shred Head · 11-08-2008, 11:50 AM

This was a really good episode I'm not a fan of the cyber stuff I mean Cyber Mutant animals coming invading New York is well its not a really cool concept besides it was a recycled plot that was done better with Bishop on season 4. We finally get to see the turtles fight the new foot ninja it took what over half the damn season to show them. I also like the fact the Turtles felt more in character Mikey wasn't overly stupid in fact he was awesome the whole way through for once. The guys actaully felt bad for not being much help in finding Splinter and are actaully concerned. I liked some of the mutant animals they look creepy I especially loved the monster turtle now thats what a Dark Turtle should have looked like. Wished the Monster Cyber Shredder lasted longer it was also really cool. Also no Serling.

Now what I didn't like was the fact that this episode didn't advance the plot at all. I swear almost nothing from the main plotline has been advanced. What is everything that actaully matter will happen in the last two episodes? If so thats going to be a mess. The extreme sports gear was lame I dont mind them getting some exersise and and having some extreme sports fun but that was way to forced. Really thats about it.

Anyone else love that Khaun killed his Cyber Clone so ruthlessly that was awesome.

**Jester** · 11-08-2008, 12:36 PM

Here it is the moment you've been waiting for! Maybe not....Jester's Running Commentary!(EDIT: I just notices with the new avatar, that Clopin quote totally works!

)

Spoiler:

kerfootw · 11-08-2008, 01:01 PM

Very good points Shred Head you nailed this episode (even though I particualrly didn't like it)! As for the last sentence, it really does look like that dart than Khan shot his doppleganger with was poisoned. I hope that's the case as well b/c one's bad enough.

P.S. Where'd you get that icon Jester? Do you have early access to episodes?

Aneras713 · 11-08-2008, 01:04 PM

"I will love him and hug him and call him George."

Priceless!

Next Episode: "I hate video games....ribbit."

I almost feel sorry for poor Raph. Next thing you know Leo will turn into a normal turtle that talks, end up flat on his shell, and be like "Help I'm a turtle and I can't get up!"

*Raph's Girl* · 11-08-2008, 01:04 PM

Spoiler:

Interesting ep. Don found a way to defeat the creatures a bit too quick IMO. But I love it when they wear their ninja outfits. Especially Raph...

I suppose tho that if they were so insistant on having a TMNT card show they got it with Shredder's zoo in this ep.

Best parts of the ep where the red headed channel 6 news reporter wearing yellow (was her name April or Irma?)
and George the Squirrel.

Next week: Mikey's a wizard and Raph's a Court Jester...frog...*lol*

Now for a couple questions:
1: Why can't the turtles help Don find Splinter?

Quotes:
"I will love him and cuddle him and call him George!" - Mikey

Aneras713 · 11-08-2008, 01:07 PM

.......................637 IQ.................is that even possible?

View Poll Results: Mutants and mutants and mutants, oh My...
You got a IQ of 637, Bro? Me neither...	13	46.43%
AH! Let go, I'm not even a Blonde!!!	5	17.86%
What's with these boys and Spandex?!	10	35.71%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

11-06-2008, 12:05 AM	#1
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Official Episode Discussion: "Web Wranglers" Welcome, my dear readers! Once more, I present a rough-and-tumble teaser with enough meat to sink your teeth into (or tofu, whichever your choose). AS we saw last week, Shredder has been able to find himself the last information needed to make himself a web portal in order to come into the real world. And as all evil geniuses know, you don't just leap willy-nilly into a door without testing it.. So the turtles get to come out of the lair once again to deal with a mess of Shredder's test subjects. Mutants of every kind to run rampant in the city. Critters from all over the web - are we going to see the boys getting chased by those nasty aliens from Halo? Maybe some look-alikes from Doom or Quake.. more cameos of Moo Montana, and the C.O.W. Boys? who knows. What we Do know, is they're in for one hell of a fight. The chance of seeing Bishop in this (or any) episode at this point seems small, but we can't give up the idea. We're bound to see him at some point! We will no doubt be seeing the boys delve into the cyberworld once more to stop Shredder from getting into the real world. While some still have a hard time warming up to the idea, we've been pleasantly surprised by most of the episodes so far this season - the entire work is better than the summary. So consider these and other questions that may be posed to you as you watch this episode: HOW WILL SHREDDER MAKE HIS CYBERPORTAL?! COULD THE SHREDDER USE SOME OF SPLINTER'S DATA AS BLACKMAIL AGAINST THE TURTLES?! WILL THE BOYS BE ABLE TO DESTROY SHREDDER'S PORTAL BEFORE HE ENTERS THE REAL WORLD?! WHERE'S THE HOT WINGS AND FREE BEER?! - I swear if I could, I'd have it for everyone after this week. And even though Congress tries to filibuster me when I say it... STAY TUNED!!!

11-08-2008, 09:34 AM	#6
Kunoichi_Haruko A shell of a good hit! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 1,685	Yeah... the clothes...it's part of the new show. It's becoming a bit jarring, too. Anyways, Great episode. "I will love him and hug him and call him George." Is it me, or is Mikey getting funnier? A plot hole (How was Don able to tell the rat was digital so easily? And then figure out it must have come from a picture from a nature website?) Maybe more time passed than what we saw in the show. Mikey had an excellent idea! YAY! Anyone else notice Kahn gets thrown around QUITE Frequently? And there's always some huge explosion? Can't wait for next week. __________________

11-08-2008, 09:36 AM	#7
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Pretty entertaining episode. Not absolutely as amazing as it could have been... and that extreme sports crap was so forced into the script. But we're definitely building up to something (too bad next week's episode seems like a FF concept they had left over). I really wish more time was spent on the Shredder being a monster thing and rampaging through the city, instead of the last couple minutes of the show. Anyone else think the giant Turtle was close to a Tokka reference? I mean, he had spikes on his back. And I Just loved seeing that reference to channel 6 news. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

11-08-2008, 10:19 AM	#12
kerfootw Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 405	Not much to savor from this episode although I did like the King Kong and mutant turtle jokes and there were some nice moments from Leo (I'm STILL waiting to see Don in his stealth suit, urgh!) Hopefully Don upgraded their cyber suits after last episode. Next week's episode though, as I mentioned already catching a sneak peek of in the "Identity Crisis" thread, looks good. Yes it looks filler but it also looks like it's going to be as hella funny as a "Supernatural" filler! Raph having to play as the court jester cracked me up and it's only going to get more funny when he turns into that frog! Last edited by kerfootw; 11-08-2008 at 10:59 AM.

11-08-2008, 08:53 AM	#2
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Okay, folks... I'm opening the thread early today, if there's a mod here, please build a poll. I'll be back later tonight...

11-08-2008, 09:05 AM	#3
Andromeda32 Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Metro DC Posts: 20	Whoohoo! My first time being able to see the new 'toon (no CW at home - visiting family). My first question is, why are Raph and Leo wearing unitards?! Ick!

11-08-2008, 09:33 AM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	This ep was like the old Playmates toyline, find a new animal to mutate! It was a fun episode overall, decent plot, nice action, its just too bad we didn't see much of the Foot fight. I loved what they did to Shredder at the end, boy will he be pissed now! LOL @ Channel 6 news reporter with the yellow jacket.

11-08-2008, 09:37 AM	#8
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,336	Started like crap, but turned out to be a good episode... that accomplished almost nothing as far moving the story goes. And please tell me that preview for next week's ep was a joke!

11-08-2008, 09:43 AM	#10
maryshine Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 118	Awesome episode today! I liked how Leo said how he felt so useless! 'Bout time the writters let the other turtles how they feel about Master Splinter. Also nice to see some leadership from Leo again. While this was a good episode, it reminded me of Good Genes from season four. What also was simular was the old TMNT toon. I almost laughted during the whole channel six reporter news. I don't know how the shell they are going to wrap this series up in just four more episodes. Not only do we need to Cybra Shreeder to come back, but also Ch'rell and Karai. Hey, I wonder how 'George' will get along with Kluk, LOL! I doubt we will see George again, but you never know!

11-08-2008, 11:12 AM	#14
MrPliggins Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,051	These episodes lately, while entertaining, aren't furthering the story any. I was half-thinking Shredder would return to reality, but if he did, the Turtles could get the rest of Splinter easily without a threat in the cyber-world. So I have a feeling Shredder won't return for another four episodes.. Also, weren't we supposed to see Usagi this season? I can't remember. The other thing weird about this season is no mention of Bishop or Karai (ok, one cutscene). It seems that they've fallen off the face of the earth, just like Leatherhead and Fugitoid.

11-08-2008, 11:50 AM	#15
Shred Head Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 341	This was a really good episode I'm not a fan of the cyber stuff I mean Cyber Mutant animals coming invading New York is well its not a really cool concept besides it was a recycled plot that was done better with Bishop on season 4. We finally get to see the turtles fight the new foot ninja it took what over half the damn season to show them. I also like the fact the Turtles felt more in character Mikey wasn't overly stupid in fact he was awesome the whole way through for once. The guys actaully felt bad for not being much help in finding Splinter and are actaully concerned. I liked some of the mutant animals they look creepy I especially loved the monster turtle now thats what a Dark Turtle should have looked like. Wished the Monster Cyber Shredder lasted longer it was also really cool. Also no Serling. Now what I didn't like was the fact that this episode didn't advance the plot at all. I swear almost nothing from the main plotline has been advanced. What is everything that actaully matter will happen in the last two episodes? If so thats going to be a mess. The extreme sports gear was lame I dont mind them getting some exersise and and having some extreme sports fun but that was way to forced. Really thats about it. Anyone else love that Khaun killed his Cyber Clone so ruthlessly that was awesome. __________________ "Cold steel meets hot flesh! Thats why they call me Slash!"

11-08-2008, 12:36 PM	#16
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Here it is the moment you've been waiting for! Maybe not....Jester's Running Commentary!(EDIT: I just notices with the new avatar, that Clopin quote totally works! ) Spoiler: Training montage!! If Shredder could just pull a rat from the alley, why can't he just extract himself?? (EDIT: Oh...nature website photo....right...) Donnie's IQ is 637? So since daddy's away, the boys can play on the surface, sans disguises? AHHH mutant rat!!! Oh, wait... Man...they killed it...I guess nasty digital mutants can just be killed... April?? "Not even a blond!" hehe King Kong Reference TMNT and Guns....never been a big fan. Tokka?? Wait, if those blasters worr on digital creations, couldn't the work on Cyber Shredder? Hey, Shredder has a warthog and a rhino in his digital ark... Khan clone....3 more for a matching set... Wolverine....Saber-tooth... OT Shredder liked animals... A chipmunk...named George... "And he's bringing home pets?" Ah ha! Leave it to Donnie to explain away the dart blasters. Mikey's got a good idea...for once... Is it me, of do the Turtles in this episode look a lot like their OT counterparts? Who are those 2 guys? Khan Elite?? Why do the Turtles have to be some wacky costumes...wow...earlier I was about thew lack of costumes... A garrison of elite ninja...that are just recycled clips... Digi-Foot?? And they decompile like Puttys. Look out...Elasti-Cyber-Shredder...wait...wha? Wow, even a corrupted mutant Shredder is still a bit of a hand full. What is with Shredder and the phrase Exodus being used in tandem? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656 Last edited by Jester; 11-08-2008 at 04:41 PM.

11-08-2008, 01:01 PM	#17
kerfootw Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 405	Very good points Shred Head you nailed this episode (even though I particualrly didn't like it)! As for the last sentence, it really does look like that dart than Khan shot his doppleganger with was poisoned. I hope that's the case as well b/c one's bad enough. P.S. Where'd you get that icon Jester? Do you have early access to episodes?

11-08-2008, 01:04 PM	#18
Aneras713 Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA (or anywhere near a computer) Posts: 314	"I will love him and hug him and call him George." Priceless! Next Episode: "I hate video games....ribbit." I almost feel sorry for poor Raph. Next thing you know Leo will turn into a normal turtle that talks, end up flat on his shell, and be like "Help I'm a turtle and I can't get up!" __________________ Why the shell am I here? Cause it's 3:15 in the morning and what else am I gonna do?

11-08-2008, 01:04 PM	#19
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Spoiler: Why can't they help Don find Splinter??? 637 IQ?! WTF?! That's one ugly mutant rat That's a mouse?! Oh hey...a red headed reporter wearing yellow on Channel 6 news.... King Kong? Tokka? Octopus? Great...he's got a card game and made a zoo... Shredder had alot of guinea pigs and mice and monkeys and octopi and reptiles and... Wolverine and Sabertooth?! Nope...Chipmunk...L Flying Chipmunk? Will Klunk eat George? Mikey smart... Ok Mike and Don! Wooh...ninja outfits! Lion's den?? Looks more like the Cerebro room... Whoa....Don litterally got under the hood Cyber foot Free?? Kaaaaahn...bonk... Try never Shredder blowed up good Interesting ep. Don found a way to defeat the creatures a bit too quick IMO. But I love it when they wear their ninja outfits. Especially Raph... I suppose tho that if they were so insistant on having a TMNT card show they got it with Shredder's zoo in this ep. Best parts of the ep where the red headed channel 6 news reporter wearing yellow (was her name April or Irma?) and George the Squirrel. Next week: Mikey's a wizard and Raph's a Court Jester...frog...lol Now for a couple questions: 1: Why can't the turtles help Don find Splinter? Quotes: "I will love him and cuddle him and call him George!" - Mikey __________________

11-08-2008, 01:07 PM	#20
Aneras713 Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA (or anywhere near a computer) Posts: 314	.......................637 IQ.................is that even possible? __________________ Why the shell am I here? Cause it's 3:15 in the morning and what else am I gonna do?