View Full Version : Obscure or Unpopular Character Appreciation Thread
Cipher
09-15-2009, 10:56 PM
Have any favorite Turtles characters that are under-appreciated or even largely unknown? Everyone knows, Shredder, Rocksteady, April, etc. And then there are those that, while they may be known only to more hardcore fans, are universally liked. (When was the last time you saw anyone on here say they hated Armaggon?) I'm talking about those special few that the most casual fans are unaware of, and that hardcore fans tend to despise or just largely ignore. Characters that, for me, include:
Complete Carnage - This guy is too f*cking awesome for words. An out-and-out, nigh unkillable, super villainous threat for the Turtles. He can meld with and gain power from any man-made material. How cool is that? Leo spends the greater half of his old age tracking him down just to kill him. And somehow, he still gets left out of the 4Kids cartoon and only has three full issues to his name.
Boss Zukko - Who? The Triceraton mobster in Fast Foward. Why? I don't know. Maybe it's the sheer novelty of seeing a Triceraton involved in organized crime. But there's something about him I find really entertaining, and all of his appearences in the series were solid. I only wish we knew what his connection to the Triceraton Shredder might have been...
Cha Ocho - Hands down the best character to come out of the post-revival comics. "Scars" is one of my favorite issues, and Cha is an incredibly rich entry into the mythos. Well...if he'd get more limelight, maybe. But it's still cool to have another Karai-esque, not-quite-villain floating around. He can go drinking with Raphael one night and still want to kill Leonardo the next. Plus, his stance on vengeance is like, a reflection of the Turtles' old ways or something. Woah, thematic continuity.
Dregg - I know, I know. For the longest time, I thought he was boring as sh*t. But now that I've been going through the 'Red Sky' episodes again, I find myself really enjoying him. He really does make the Turtles' situations seem hopeless, befriending the people of the Earth. It all seems welcomely dire after seven seasons of the same old, same old. He gets a nice little character arc over his sixteen episodes too, going from calculating invader to deranged madman bent on killing the Turtles. Basically, he doesn't overstay his welcome, and while I'm not sure he'd hold his own as a villain in any other version of Turtles, he was probably just the right fit for where the original cartoon was headed.
Those are all I can think of for now. Discuss.
Scandia
09-16-2009, 05:14 AM
I really like Ariella Yehuda, aka Golani, from the Archie comics.
Tang Shen needs more attention as well. I honestly think the 2k3 series developed her more than the original Mirage comic.
Hordak
09-17-2009, 07:19 AM
Hmmm...I like a lot of the other characters from the TMNT universe. Not sur if these are popular so, Antrax, The Trio(Scratch,Nocturno,Scare Crow), Mer Dude, Mutagen Man, Pizza Face, Scale Tail, that spider guy from the Archie comics(looked kinda like a Predator)Toxin? Dirt Bag & Groundchuck. Just to name a few. Like I said not sure if these are popular or kinda obscure. I guess when I think popular besides the TMNT I think about Rat King, Leatherhead, Slash, Tokka, Shredder, Rocksteady, Hot Head, Casey, Ray Fillet Mondo, etc. I like a lot of those as well!
shuriken
09-17-2009, 09:26 AM
Savanti Juliet- I loved that comic, it was really trippy and the fact that Savanti Romero had a wife is awesome, not to mention a nice nod at Romeo and Juliet. Poe's little cameo was also amazing.
SHredder Elite-Three grotesque creatures decked out in Shredder armor... I only wish they would have lasted a bit longer. I really did enjoy their designs though.
Dregg- I liked him because even the Shredder and Krang get kinda old after what, 9 seasons or so.
PizzaFace- He's just a cool figure. If he was atually used in the comics or in the cartoons I wonder how he would have been portrayed. If you think about it he would have been pretty useless in the fighting department due to have a hunchback, Pizza cutter leg and being kinda frumpy. But I don't know maybe he could make pizza monsters like... oh right.
Raph's Girl
09-17-2009, 10:00 AM
My fave characters are from the Archie-verse:
Ninjara and her people (altho I don't like Kyota....what a biatch....)
Mokoshen and his people
Mezcaal
Golani
The Mighty Mutanimals
Al'Falqa
Azrael
Cherubae/Mary Bones
Charlie Llama
Cuddly
Bubala the Glub Glub (I cried when he was killed)
The Other
Oyuki
Chu Hsi (who was April's love interest)
Blade Raider
09-17-2009, 10:58 AM
All H.A.V.O.C. characters. Aside from menting the episode titles a few times, I've never seen anyone say anything about these guys. Their pretty cool and so far (I still have a few episodes to watch) the highlight of season 8.
Coola Yagami
09-17-2009, 12:16 PM
Like I said before, Tyrannus and his pals were a real threat unlike Runaway Shredder, it's their lame-ass designs that turned me off. They really needed a better monster designer for that show. Don't make em look scary for the kiddies, but at least make them look cool.
Cipher
09-17-2009, 12:20 PM
Like I said before, Tyrannus and his pals were a real threat unlike Runaway Shredder, it's their lame-ass designs that turned me off. They really needed a better monster designer for that show. Don't make em look scary for the kiddies, but at least make them look cool.Just to nit-pick, it's Titanus.
H.A.V.O.C. has never done it for me. Their episodes had potential but ended up being kind of lame. Maybe if they'd stuck closer to the more traditional mutants of the show, and had a bit more character, I'd like them.
Coola Yagami
09-17-2009, 01:08 PM
True, since when did being a mutant give you super-powers?
stayunspoiled
09-17-2009, 09:10 PM
Hmmm...I like a lot of the other characters from the TMNT universe. Not sur if these are popular so, Antrax, The Trio(Scratch,Nocturno,Scare Crow), Mer Dude, Mutagen Man, Pizza Face, Scale Tail, that spider guy from the Archie comics(looked kinda like a Predator)Toxin? Dirt Bag & Groundchuck. Just to name a few. Like I said not sure if these are popular or kinda obscure. I guess when I think popular besides the TMNT I think about Rat King, Leatherhead, Slash, Tokka, Shredder, Rocksteady, Hot Head, Casey, Ray Fillet Mondo, etc. I like a lot of those as well!
I agree with you Hordak, I liked alot of the random Mutants that ran around.
By the way, where did you get your avatar and siggy pic, they're awesome :D
Type 97 Chi-ha
09-17-2009, 10:26 PM
True, since when did being a mutant give you super-powers?
You've got a point. When you think about it, none of the core character mutants (the Turtles and Splinter) in either the comic book or TV cartoons had any special powers, but only their fighting skills and whatever smarts they had. (Batman is much the same way.)
Coola Yagami
09-18-2009, 02:54 AM
Exactly, and every single mutant in the show up to that point only had characteristics relative to their animal forms. Leatherhead and Groundchuck had their size, Rocksteady would run into things with his horn, the TMNT had their hard shells and would occasionaly pull their heads in, and Splinter was able to crawl and chew through anything.
But Titanus had mutant rams and scorpions and what not that had flying powers, super speed, eye blasts, etc. And what kinda future was that? All mutants were outlawed? What about the future turtles, had they lived that long that is.
Newton Gimmick
09-18-2009, 07:33 AM
Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang.
Blade Raider
09-18-2009, 09:48 AM
Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang.
Just because Peter Cullen sounds awesome saying the line "We're the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang!"
Been wanting to edit that line into the first Transformers movie. You know, when Sam ask "What are you" and Prime can reply "We're the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang!" :lol:
Sadly, I don't have the video/audio editing skills to do it.
Tinuvielsdreams
09-19-2009, 12:25 AM
I used to really like Mondo in the OT. I wish he had been in a few more eppys. He was like Leather head in 2K3. We knew he lived nearby but only dropped by in convenient story moments
Newton Gimmick
09-19-2009, 03:55 AM
Just because Peter Cullen sounds awesome saying the line "We're the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang!"
Been wanting to edit that line into the first Transformers movie. You know, when Sam ask "What are you" and Prime can reply "We're the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang!" :lol:
Sadly, I don't have the video/audio editing skills to do it.
It never occured to me till just now it was Cullen doing that voice. But yeah, "We're the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang!" always sounded so cool to me. Now I realize why.
ToTheNines
09-19-2009, 07:04 AM
Bloodsucker, just cause he's so fu**ing ugly in his close-ups.
TMNTD
09-19-2009, 10:00 PM
I wish they would've included Panda Khan in the original toon. He had his own comic book like Usagi, and it was pretty good.
I've always liked Dirt Bag and Groundchuck, Ray Fillet and the Mighty Mutanimals, and the OT 'version of the Triceratons.
Tokka and Rahzar had potential, especially in the OT .
I also liked Ace Duck ( the pilot not the wrestler)
Leo656
09-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Mona Lisa.
I concur, I liked that episode. Wonder why they didn't use her more.
I also like Ninjara, Chameleon, and I thought Stump and Sling were kinda funny. And Null was pretty evil. I'm mostly familiar with the Archie comics.
I concur, I liked that episode. Wonder why they didn't use her more.
Teenage Misogynistic Ninja Turtles? :P
Leo656
09-20-2009, 04:50 PM
Bwahahahaha :lol:
Remember the episode when Raphael went Ike Turner on April? :P
Leo656
09-21-2009, 05:50 PM
...No. Musta missed that one.
NameGoesHere1066
09-23-2009, 04:41 PM
Lotus Blossum. It was a shame she onlyhad two episodes.
Joure
09-24-2009, 12:14 PM
Ninjara.
I grew up only having the archie comics available here at the time. And the moment Ninjara got into the picture I was sold. I am a very big fan of raphael, and I really enjoyed the two of them having a relationship.
They even talked about children and how raphael had a way longer lifespan then she had in one of the comics. I think it was the 3 part comic where they went to the future, and the turltes gotten older, mike and leo where missing, and raph missed an eye. This was prior to when I read some of the mirage comics, and I never seen the turtles being prtrayed that seruously. I personally would love to see her back in one way or another.
Leo656
10-02-2009, 01:28 AM
Ninjara was in three issues of Furrlough back in the day. Was supposed to be more, but either the writer or artist had some kinda personal issues I think, so it was never finished. None of the TMNT were in it, obviously, but they made references to Mokoshan, her post-Raph boyfriend. Was done by the same creative team as TMNTA. Plus there was a panel of her topless, if you're into that sorta thing... :P
I found them at a comic/card convention at a shopping mall, dunno how easy they are to find otherwise. Would be neat to see how it was supposed to end.
Raph's Girl
10-02-2009, 02:28 AM
Ninjara was in three issues of Furrlough back in the day. Was supposed to be more, but either the writer or artist had some kinda personal issues I think, so it was never finished. None of the TMNT were in it, obviously, but they made references to Mokoshan, her post-Raph boyfriend.
April is kinda in it....in a background scene on a tv. But yeah...the Furrlough story was cool but it was never finished!!! Argh! Ninjara's daughter, Moka, was absolutly adorable. I felt sorry for Ninjara...raising her daughter by herself cuz Mokoshen had been murdered.
As for Raph. At least in the future he found happiness in his wife, Mezcaal. :D
Powder
10-02-2009, 11:18 PM
Venus.
LOL nah im kidding.
Deffinately panda kahn (although hes more of a tie-in) & wyrm.
TMNTD
10-03-2009, 11:53 AM
Venus.
LOL nah im kidding.
Deffinately panda kahn (although hes more of a tie-in) & wyrm.
Yeah, Panda Khan was pretty badass. Too bad he doesn't have a fanbase like Usagi and the Turtles. His comics were pretty good, and the artwork was tight.
Keldor1578
10-15-2009, 05:39 AM
Lord Dregg, I felt he was underrated villain. He was the turtles most dangerous foe in the old toon.
Dejablue
01-03-2010, 08:29 PM
http://crookedninjaturtlegang.ytmnd.com/
Mona Lisa, Mondo Gecko, and the Neutrinos.
Powder
01-03-2010, 11:07 PM
The neutrinos aren't really under appreciated, they were featured in quite a good amount of OT episodes in my opinion. Mondo gecko is a similar case, though with him it was the archie comics. More specifically the mighty mutanimals. However mona lisa was certainly under-used... but not by fangirls. The crazy ones all think of themselves as her, or make character rip offs to portray themselves as. Oi.
Venom
01-03-2010, 11:15 PM
As for Raph. At least in the future he found happiness in his wife, Mezcaal. :D
Who, as we found out, was Ninjara's great-great?-grandaughter!
My prepubescent mind = blown. :lol:
Also, I always enjoyed the shady tycoon in "49th Street Stompers". He had a TON of potential to be a recurring benefactor to the Turtles and provide a little more depth into the moral ambiguity of the Turtles.
Dejablue
01-04-2010, 12:09 AM
The neutrinos aren't really under appreciated, they were featured in quite a good amount of OT episodes in my opinion.
Yeah but I thought everyone hated the Neutrinos :lol:
Powder
01-04-2010, 12:21 AM
Perhaps some in here might... I personally always liked them. I guess not too many people hate them, as a referance was made in an episode of fast forward. Something along the lines of 'OH NO A NEUTRINO BOMB!'
plastroncafe
01-04-2010, 01:30 PM
Who, as we found out, was Ninjara's great-great?-grandaughter!
My prepubescent mind = blown. :lol:
Also, I always enjoyed the shady tycoon in "49th Street Stompers". He had a TON of potential to be a recurring benefactor to the Turtles and provide a little more depth into the moral ambiguity of the Turtles.
I...I did not know that.
HA, wow that's dirty!
SwordofTengu
01-04-2010, 03:48 PM
Mortu- Hey, he's a great leader and ally. I like to think he was Ch'rell's brother. :)
Tatsu- He's not awesome or great, but I like him. He's more of a father to the Foot Ninjas then Shredder. I mean he trains them and accompanies them on missions.
Irma
Any Utrom (I just love Utroms) :D
Revan
02-17-2010, 12:15 PM
Bloodsucker, just cause he's so fu**ing ugly in his close-ups.
When I see people say they like Bloodsucker I have ask why. I know you say it's because he looks cool but I have to say he was rediculous. The issue was exciting but it was a bit far fetched, even for a comic about mutant turtles. I mean, didn't he de-mutate when raph somehow sucked it out of him. WTH is that about?:ohwell:
Yeah but I thought everyone hated the Neutrinos :lol:
I am insulted by that.
I am surprised that Mona got mentioned for an appreciation thread.
I have to agree about Lord Dregg and Irma.
Irma was so entertaining, I loved every second she was on screen. Even though she did turn a tad annoying at points.
Krutch
02-18-2010, 12:55 AM
Ace the Duck and Maestro for me.
...OH, and when Mikey transforms into "That Opera Guy", he was cool.
hadoolket
02-24-2010, 02:43 AM
definitely an irma fanboy, even have two custom statues of her <3
The coffee jockey new foot recruit from the comics. I always wished that they did a follow up story with his younger brother set in the future when he is grown up.
Krutch
02-24-2010, 05:04 AM
The Crooked Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Gang
cryan
10-15-2010, 04:21 AM
I am surprised that Mona got mentioned for an appreciation thread.
I have to agree about Lord Dregg and Irma.
Irma was so entertaining, I loved every second she was on screen. Even though she did turn a tad annoying at points.
Why are you suprised that Mona was mentioned?She was like the only minor female mutant character they created.I am not counting April or Irma when they were mutated sense they are recurring characters.Though I thought she was a little out of place but I like mona Lisa and thought too she should have been used more.The fact that Playmates made an action figure of her was amazing.I bet that drove Laird crazy.
Ninjafromanotherseries
10-15-2010, 12:32 PM
Here is few of my favorite unpopular or underused characters:
Karai's two servants from 2k3 cartoon. Mostly appearead in City at War-episodes but I guess they had few cameos. Funny looking battlepartners.
Mona Lisa- it is a shame she was only in 1 episode and hasn't any other appearances.
4 Acolytes- or at least Adam and Joy seemed interesting. And wouldn't mind TMNT having other human allies. Good thing that they were resurrected but kinda makes feel bad for bad guys since no matter how much you are winning good guys have cheats like resurrecting...wait bad guys resurrected Tengu Shedder. I guess both sides cheated.
Also many of the BTTS Purple Dragons are pretty awesome too.
Berserker
10-15-2010, 01:10 PM
The Triceraton All-Stars. Traximus steals their thunder. I would watch a show about those guys, they're badass. (Or did the Terrible Thunderlizards already fill that role?) :)
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