So we're not really getting an, "original 80's series" vibe from Nick's TMNT it seems

[CyberCubed]

As everyone has noticed by now, Nick's TMNT doesn't really seem like its channeling or being a homage to the original series at all.

The Turtles arms/leg bands are all brown rather than all colored, they do not have initials on their belts, and their look in general does not resemble the 80's cartoon. Even the logo looks more like the Mirage comics logo than anything else.

I think people were too quick to assume Nick wanted to make this series similar to the original one, using all old toon concepts.

At this point it really does not seem anything like an, "old school reboot" to me.

[Kendamu]

Seems that people can come to the wrong conclusions when absolutely no real info exists from October 2009 to March 2011.

However, the reference to pizza in that once recent article does show that some widely-known elements of the OT will exist in Nick's TMNT.

[CyberCubed]

I do believe we'll be seeing the likes of Krang/Bebop/Rocksteady, but not in the way the fans imagine them.

If they do appear I think they're going to be heavily altered or be different in some way. And not just being in CG either.

[Kendamu]

I hope by "heavily altered" you mean, "Reminicient of their OTS1 appearances," where they were too strong to take head-on and had to be outwitted.

[TobTurn]

An homage to the 80's would be cool, but I don't want it to be goofy as the actual series was. I want an actual villainous villain, not some complaining ninja. I want it to be serious too, and I'd like good fighting scens. And not to much pizza-jokes. Not more than once in an episode.

[Eiko]

Well from what the article had said it is going to be funnier kinda like the OT and have a lot more action as well.

[Jephael]

I'd love to see some elements from the Archie comics thrown in, though I'm not holding out for it.

[PizzaPower]

ive said it before and ill say it again i think we are going to see just about ever elemete in this new toon, its going to be exciting and awesome!

[Donnie]

The OT is fine on its own, but I'm incredibly happy the preview of the tmnt doesn't resemble the OT. Let's let the colored knee and elbow pads stay with the 80s/early 90s.

[Kendamu]

An homage to the 80's would be cool, but I don't want it to be goofy as the actual series was. I want an actual villainous villain, not some complaining ninja. I want it to be serious too, and I'd like good fighting scens. And not to much pizza-jokes. Not more than once in an episode.

If Nick's focusing more on the "teenage" aspect in this, I'm sure there'll be more than one pizza joke per episode. :tlol:

[Donnie]

If Nick's focusing more on the "teenage" aspect in this, I'm sure there'll be more than one pizza joke per episode. :tlol:

True statement.

[Volvagia]

If Nick's focusing more on the "teenage" aspect in this, I'm sure there'll be more than one pizza joke per episode. :tlol:
I just hope they don't go overboard with it like the OT did. It got old pretty fast.

[JoeGro]

The Turtles in their original published incarnation were dark and totally bad@$$.
That was my only complaint about the episodes of the original cartoon series, post the first 5 original episodes. There was still humor, but there was also action, use of weapons, and mild violence, in the first 5 episodes. If any influence from the original series is taken at all, in my own opinion, it should only be influence from those episodes. I like the idea of incorporating more aspects of the comics as well. The 2003 series started off pretty well with that, but then introduced a lot of unnecessary characters that I didn't care for (i.e. Hun). So it needs to be a combination of a lot of things from every incarnation (except "The Next Mutation"). Prior and well into the 25th anniversary there was a re-introduction to the original TMNT (comic version) in toy lines, I ate that up, and I miss the heck out of seeing them like that, or even the way they were in the original movie. Kids watch a lot of martial arts based shows these days; from Dragon Ball Z, to Avatar, to Power Rangers, etc. etc. All which have plenty of action/battle sequences. There are ways to go about creating action packed shows without "dumbing it down too much" or "making it too sugar coated". I think the world is a little more open minded than it was 20 some odd years ago. I am very excited that Rob Paulsen will be a part of the new series.

[chad]

From the art and watching the video I cannot see that much of the original cartoon. So I find it pretty exciting. they should take elements from Many universes so fans of every version can be pleased, the Mirage and Archie comics, 87 cartoon, some of the movies, 2K3 cartoon,

[Ninja Tiptup]

I'm all for a mix of various interpretations but I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm pleased to see they're not ignoring the Mirage roots for the franchise.

I'm hoping this TMNT series with have enough of the OT for people who only ever liked the OT not to hate it but also be a more serious story driven cartoon with humor that wont date it horribly. Though they'll probably never please the people who only like the OT because to them any other interpretation is either trying too hard to be edgy or not as entertaining and fun as the original. So any serious show is shot down and so is any other comedic one for simply not being the humor they enjoyed or being an imitation of it. People are funny that way, they don't like imitation but they also don't want a different interpretation.

[Koi]

If Nick's focusing more on the "teenage" aspect in this, I'm sure there'll be more than one pizza joke per episode. :tlol:

Teenagers aren't really like that though, and if you look at newer shows that focus more on "teenager" aspects; They act like teenagers, and go through teenager years and trials... Has nothing to do with pizza.

[PizzaPower]

ya i know lol. Pizza is just something teens eat, shoot everybody eats.

[Kendamu]

Teenagers aren't really like that though, and if you look at newer shows that focus more on "teenager" aspects; They act like teenagers, and go through teenager years and trials... Has nothing to do with pizza.

No clue what you're talking about. Teenage boys, like I once was, are always hungry and pizza is especially welcome. Sure, it doesn't make for a good episode of Degrassi but it certainly works for something like TMNT.

Really, though, I'm guessing that the pizza obsession aspect would be more like the first movie. A few funny jokes about it were made here and there but it wouldn't be one pizza joke after another.

[TMNT4787]

I don't know why when they announced they would be a 80's feel to the show that people thought or assumed the turtles would have a resemblance to the 80's show. To me I think what they meant was characters and setting.

[Redeemer]

The only reason It reminded me of the OT is bc of the projected Pizza Humor and the bladed weapons, bc that to me is indicating robot foot. Nick can get away with a lot more by the turtles beating up robots than humans.

[FearlessLeader]

Just want to add, while I really don't care if the Foot are robots or humans as long as we get good fight scenes. The 4Kids cartoon had Leo and Raphael use their bladed weapons quiet often during fights with the human Foot members and just got around it by making certain the audience heard lots of well placed groans and moans so that we knew the Foot were still a live and just injured.

Nick could also go in this kind of action kids cartoon direction too. Just as a different possibility :tgrin:

[Fledermaus]

Curious what the vibe will be. The human producers (Joshu Sternin, Jeffrey Ventimilia, Ciro Nieli) seem to have a hell of a lot more experience (and success) with their shows/feature films than producers from the previous TMNT series. I wonder if Joshua and Jeffrey will be doing any writing (they were executive producers and occasional writers for That 70's Show for the new series. The third producer mentioned, Ciro Nieli, has lots of experience directing for action-oriented shows (like Teen Titans) and direct-to-dvd marvel animated features.

Knowing their histories, it seems like these guys would be inclined to up the humor as well as the action in the series, which would be awesome.

And, I apologize if my grammar's off. I'm sort of in zombie-mode right now (haven't been sleeping lately).

[Icegaze]

From the art and watching the video I cannot see that much of the original cartoon. So I find it pretty exciting. they should take elements from Many universes so fans of every version can be pleased, the Mirage and Archie comics, 87 cartoon, some of the movies, 2K3 cartoon,
Well I'm hoping Nick's TMNT is going to be influenced by:
- 50% of the 2k3 series (especially the first 4 seasons)
- 30% of the Mirage comics
- 15% of the 2007 CGI movie (yeah, I loved it)
- 5% of the 80s series (just because I think I owe that series my fondness of TMNT in general but I cannot say I would enjoy it today).

[BubblyShell22]

I also agree that I'd like a mix of the various incarnations (minus Next Mutation) instead of just one interpretation. I'm excited to see what Nick comes up with. Either way, it looks pretty promising.

[Cowabunga Carl]

Just from the picture and the little video I'm not getting a vibe of anything other then turtles. Maybe I've missed something as I have been away for a while, but I really want to see more so I can get a vibe.

[Vernon]

(they were executive producers and occasional writers for That 70's Show for the new series. The third producer mentioned, Ciro Nieli, has lots of experience directing for action-oriented shows (like Teen Titans)

The Ninja Turtles will be hanging out? ..... down the street? The same old thing, they did last week?

And coming up plans to defeat Shredder by smoking pot in there lair. With the 360-camera!

Leonardo is Eric
Raph is Hyde
Mikey is Fez
Don is.... opposite of Kelso
April is Donna
Irma is .... opposite of Jackie
Casey Jones is Leo (the Tommy Chong Character)

...... not to mention, Leo is being voiced by the guy who f**ked the pie in that teen comedy.

Best incarnation ever?

[Andrew NDB]

As everyone has noticed by now, Nick's TMNT doesn't really seem like its channeling or being a homage to the original series at all.

The Turtles arms/leg bands are all brown rather than all colored, they do not have initials on their belts, and their look in general does not resemble the 80's cartoon. Even the logo looks more like the Mirage comics logo than anything else.

I think people were too quick to assume Nick wanted to make this series similar to the original one, using all old toon concepts.

I'm not convinced -- remember the early reports from Dan. That Nickelodeon was pretty much exclusively interested in pursuing the original 80s cartoon TMNT, from the moment they walked in the door (so to speak).

While the pictures so far seem to have a little bit of "grit," that may just be of surface value.

My personal prediction:

It'll be a loose continuation of the Fred Wolf cartoon, set some undetermined amount of time later. It's the same TMNT, but now they carry a sharper stick (so to speak, again). I wholly expect there to be reveals of Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, Technodrome, Turtle blimps, cowabunga and all that nonsense in the days ahead.

[sdp]

Well things could have changed a lot, its not like Dan is working on the show, also Nick may tell what they want but its still the people in charge of the show that get to add what they want into the show. I am sure and I hope we get Beebop, Krang etc, but to think this will be as silly as the OT is another thing.

Of course Nick is interested in the OT because its the only mega successful version of the turtles, but no way is this going to be a continuation of the 80s show, the target audience was just being born when the 2k3 show started.

[Weapon X]

I wholly expect there to be reveals of Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, Technodrome, Turtle blimps, cowabunga and all that nonsense in the days ahead.

Cool, I might actually consider watching it then.

[Icegaze]

*repeats furiously to self*

Please no Krang. Please no Beebop. Please no Rocksteady. Please no whiny Shredder. Please no technodrome. Please no Fly Baxter Stockman. Please no April O'Neil with a banana jumpsuit. Please no Irma and co. Please! Please!! Please!!! Please!!!!


On the other hand, I will wholeheartedly welcome Bishop from the 2k3 series.

[Coola Yagami]

*repeats furiously to self*

Please no Krang. Please no Beebop. Please no Rocksteady. Please no whiny Shredder. Please no technodrome. Please no Fly Baxter Stockman. Please no April O'Neil with a banana jumpsuit. Please no Irma and co. Please! Please!! Please!!! Please!!!!


On the other hand, I will wholeheartedly welcome Bishop from the 2k3 series.

let me fix that for you.

Please a viscious warlord Krang. Please a bad-ass Bebop and Rocksteady. Please a competent human shredder, please an awesome Technodrome that WORKS, please April with a rockin rack and skintight clothing, wether its the jumpsuit or not, please Irma if she's just as hot, please, please, please!!!

[Icegaze]

let me fix that for you.

Please a viscious warlord Krang. Please a bad-ass Bebop and Rocksteady. Please a competent human shredder, please an awesome Technodrome that WORKS, please April with a rockin rack and skintight clothing, wether its the jumpsuit or not, please Irma if she's just as hot, please, please, please!!!
We'll see who's wish comes true in 2012. http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/408/hurr.gif

[ssjup81]

Didn't Krang in the Archie comic come across as more of a threat in the sense that he was definitely murderous and stuff? I know he wasn't in it much, but that seemed to be the implication of what he was capable of.

[CyberCubed]

Krang was always evil in the old toon.

They just played the, "married housewife" aspect with him to make him funny.

[Newton Gimmick]

I always liked the aspect that the Technodrome more or less never worked. There was no way the TMNT could match up against that thing... So if it was so powerful it didn't really work, it gave them the ability to match up against it.

I much preferred that to the episodes where the Turtles were able to defeat a working Technodrome.

[AcidBurn30]

As everyone has noticed by now, Nick's TMNT doesn't really seem like its channeling or being a homage to the original series at all.

The Turtles arms/leg bands are all brown rather than all colored, they do not have initials on their belts, and their look in general does not resemble the 80's cartoon. Even the logo looks more like the Mirage comics logo than anything else.

I think people were too quick to assume Nick wanted to make this series similar to the original one, using all old toon concepts.

At this point it really does not seem anything like an, "old school reboot" to me.
you mean you thought they're going to do the toon cartoon 80's and 90's..its look like they want more of the comic book look. I'm ok with it..as long they don't look like the next mutation.

[Icegaze]

If people want the ninja turtles to be more... "ninja-ier" then I don't see why they'd want the technodrome to be in the upcoming Nick show. I know I don't want to see half-shelled shinobi throwing their steel on a gigantic Death Star-like tank.

[Powder]

Whether or not there is a futuristic war machine present will have no effect on the turtles level of ninja skill.

Wheressssss yourrrrr heaaad atttttt

[Icegaze]

My head is at wanting a darker and stealthier tone to the Nick's TMNT than the goofy '87 show. No offense. I hope it's more of a mix of the 2k3 series and the first Mirage comics.

And I never said the technodrome would "affect" the turtles' ninja skills. :/

[ssjup81]

I personally wouldn't mind a little humor. I like humor. I like having a mix of action, humor, seriousness, etc., sorta like how Teen Titans was It'd be nice if this version has a combination of those things so that it can appeal to more than one demographic.

[Vivi]

I also love the 2k3 Mikey, and he's definitely the cheese. One of the best fighting sequences is Mikey in the Christmas aliens episode. Plus he's easygoing, and has onion layers and all that.

[BubblyShell22]

No, 2K3 Mikey was the worst with his selfishness and not being able to learn lessons once they're taught. I don't want that. I want lessons to be learned and stay learned. I didn't mind Mikey at first but after the Battle Nexus arc, I really started to dislike him.

[Andrew NDB]

I always liked the aspect that the Technodrome more or less never worked.

Hm. Weird.

[hadoolket]

what i heard is gonna happen with this new series is that the new series is going to be like METAL GEEEEEAR

and raph will be like solid snake
splinter will be colonel campbell
master mikey gives raph advice about survival
april o'neil will be meryl, telling raph to remember her butt wiggle
raph will meet don "hal" atello later on who will help raph out via turtle com and with gadgetry/hacking work
raph's mission is to infiltrate and shut down the technodrome

then there will be a second season where raph is there for a couple of moments doing a mission, but then disappears suddenly
taking his place is leo for some tactical ninja lightning sword action
he will maintain turtle com communication with splinter and karai who has a knack for bringing up nonsense during leo's mission
on the way he will meet up with a suspiciously familiar fellow who seems to be dubiously helping him out
he will also encounter irma, a friend of donatello and ditzy, boy-crazy yet proficient hacker who is upset about something donatello might have done in the past

this is all true and serious in a whole nonfanfic setting that i didn't just make-up as i somehow mysteriously have ties to insiders within nickelodeon etc

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, sure you do.

[sdp]

I'm starting to worry that we might not see much at all from the OT, they keep mentioning and we're seeing how they are taking the original comics as a basis, and even Alex mentioned how the Kraang was a way to keep it true to the comics with having a reference to the OT. To me thats a pretty crappy reference, no different than what the 2k3 did with Krang being a passing Utrom. We know the Kraang are making mutants but we shouldn't assume its OT style mutants, the 2k3 show also had mutants in Season 4 but they weren't OT style mutants. Splinters origin is the same but it was very likely not chosen because it was the OT origin, they just saw more story possibilities with it.

I really feel we might not get the Technodrome, Rocksteady/Beebop, let alone other older fan favorites or even ones that never got an appearance like Armaggon. Don't get me wrong, I like a more serious/Mirage faithful version but we just got that with 2k3/tmnt2007, I'm ready to re-visit the old school version that Laird denied us like we were little children.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm starting to worry that we might not see much at all from the OT, they keep mentioning and we're seeing how they are taking the original comics as a basis

I'm not seeing it.

[CyberCubed]

At this point the series doesn't seem to be based on any previous incarnation.

They're just taking the characters and doing their own thing with it. Which I guess is a good thing, since it is an all-new universe.

[Whitewolf89]

*repeats furiously to self*

Please no Krang. Please no Beebop. Please no Rocksteady. Please no whiny Shredder. Please no technodrome. Please no Fly Baxter Stockman. Please no April O'Neil with a banana jumpsuit. Please no Irma and co. Please! Please!! Please!!! Please!!!!


On the other hand, I will wholeheartedly welcome Bishop from the 2k3 series.Icegaze, I absolutely 100% agree with you on all of that!

Er, except for one thing: I don't want to see Bishop ever again in anything TMNT-related! Honest, I think I hated him the absolute worst out of all the 2K3 villians! (And given how much that I absolutely loathed Shredder, Karai, Hun and Bazter Stockman, that's saying something, believe me!!!

Btw, slightly OT, but I love your siggy-pic a lot! Where did you FIND those, anyway?! I would love to have them for my drawing reference binder/scrapbook! (I'm working on a 2K7 TMNT movie fancomic adaptation of a fanfic of mine, set IN the movie, and I would dearly love to have those for drawing reference!)

[Xav]

I really feel we might not get the Technodrome, Rocksteady/Beebop, let alone other older fan favorites or even ones that never got an appearance like Armaggon. Don't get me wrong, I like a more serious/Mirage faithful version but we just got that with 2k3/tmnt2007, I'm ready to re-visit the old school version that Laird denied us like we were little children. Technically the Mirage comics are the old school version.

[Cure]

Icegaze, I absolutely 100% agree with you on all of that!

Er, except for one thing: I don't want to see Bishop ever again in anything TMNT-related! Honest, I think I hated him the absolute worst out of all the 2K3 villians! (And given how much that I absolutely loathed Shredder, Karai, Hun and Bazter Stockman, that's saying something, believe me!!!

I can't decide whether you capitalizing or italicizing every other word is more annoying.

[Whitewolf89]

I can't decide whether you capitalizing or italicizing every other word is more annoying.
*sighs in defeat* Okay, I'll quit doing both.

Makes me wonder why I even still come around here, if me emphasing some stuff here and there is so annoying.

[1984TMNT]

*sighs in defeat* Okay, I'll quit doing both.

Makes me wonder why I even still come around here, if me emphasing some stuff here and there is so annoying.

Doesn't bother me, WW....emphasize away!

[Andrew NDB]

At this point the series doesn't seem to be based on any previous incarnation.

None specifically, but the pendulum definitely does seem to be swinging pretty clearly toward the Fred Wolf cartoon in terms of similarities. It's definitely not an all-out continuation/retread of it, but I don't think you can point to any other TMNT universe animated (or non) with as many similarities as are shared with that.

1. Evil brains intent on our demise. Whether they're called "The Kraange"/"Krangs" or even Utroms, the only time we've ever seen this going on was in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

2. All sorts of animal mutations happening on a regular basis, as suggested by the premise of the Krange/Krangis/whatever. Pretty much just the Fred Wolf cartoon had this going on (and the Archie Comics which began as a spinoff of it).

3. Mutagen that changes you from one lifeform into a different lifeform. This only ever happened in the Fred Wolf cartoon (and the Archie Comics which began as a spinoff of it, of course).

[Redeemer]

At this point the series doesn't seem to be based on any previous incarnation.

They're just taking the characters and doing their own thing with it. Which I guess is a good thing, since it is an all-new universe.

This is what I was hoping for. I loved the OT. I love 2k3. I love the comics. I love the movies. Ecspecially the first movie.

From what all I have read, I think this is shaping up to be the best incarnation of TMNT to come. They still need to make tweaks here and there, but thats why its a mutation is progress. So we have to wait and see.

[Venom]

None specifically, but the pendulum definitely does seem to be swinging pretty clearly toward the Fred Wolf cartoon in terms of similarities. It's definitely not an all-out continuation/retread of it, but I don't think you can point to any other TMNT universe animated (or non) with as many similarities as are shared with that.

1. Evil brains intent on our demise. Whether they're called "The Kraange"/"Krangs" or even Utroms, the only time we've ever seen this going on was in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

2. All sorts of animal mutations happening on a regular basis, as suggested by the premise of the Krange/Krangis/whatever. Pretty much just the Fred Wolf cartoon had this going on (and the Archie Comics which began as a spinoff of it).

3. Mutagen that changes you from one lifeform into a different lifeform. This only ever happened in the Fred Wolf cartoon (and the Archie Comics which began as a spinoff of it, of course).

4. Splinter originally being Hamato Yoshi and fleeing to America after being disgraced by Saki/Shredder.

5. The Turtles' favorite food being pizza.

[Whitewolf89]

Doesn't bother me, WW....emphasize away!
THANK you! At least someone around here doesn't care about the way that I emphasize stuff in my posts! *pounces/glomps/huggles 1984TMNT happily*

Honestly, though, I've been doing that in my stories (which is what I called them before I ever heard the term "fanfiction") since I was a kid of about 10 or 11. And since I'm 54, you guys can do the math of just how long I've been writing and emphasizing stuff that way.

And btw, just call me "Wolfie", bro (or sys; whichever you might happen to be:tlol:). Everybody else around here does.:twink:

Now, let's all get back on-topic and forget this silliness.:twink::tlol:

[Xav]

1. Evil brains intent on our demise. Whether they're called "The Kraange"/"Krangs" or even Utroms, the only time we've ever seen this going on was in the Fred Wolf cartoon. What about Stockman and Ch'rell?

[Xav]

The Ninja Turtles will be hanging out? ..... down the street? The same old thing, they did last week?

And coming up plans to defeat Shredder by smoking pot in there lair. With the 360-camera!

Leonardo is Eric
Raph is Hyde
Mikey is Fez
Don is.... opposite of Kelso
April is Donna
Irma is .... opposite of Jackie
Casey Jones is Leo (the Tommy Chong Character)

...... not to mention, Leo is being voiced by the guy who f**ked the pie in that teen comedy.

Best incarnation ever? Does this mean Splinter will be Red and call the Turtles dumbasses all the time?

[BubblyShell22]

Yep, that about sums it up. But who'll play Kitty?

[Jester]

Teng Shen, of course.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, that would work.