Would you ever want Shredder to be an Utrom again?

[ToTheNines]

The suckery vs. the bad-assery of Utrom Shredder is constantly debated on these threads (to the point where it's really annoying) but I have a new question:

Whether you liked Shredder being an Utrom or not, would you ever care to see his character go that route in any new comics/cartoons/movies?

I liked what they did with the 4kids show, and I hope it "leaves its mark" on the TMNT franchise, but I hope no one ever borrows that particular story element.

[Candy Kappa]

I feel it should be the 4kids series thing, same as Krang being a Fred Wolf and Archie thing

[ToTheNines]

same as Krang being a Fred Wolf and Archie thing

I would disagree with that statement, but now that I think about it, I doubt anyone could make him as funny/awesome as he was.

[Revan]

I enjoyed the Chrell character. I was one who didn't see it coming. Call me blind, dense, or simply stupid. In my opinion, the 2k3 version of Shredder was the most menacing and it was fun having a serious enemy to root against. However, I don't need to see the shredder as an utrom again. Been there, done that. next?

[Redeemer]

Can I get a Hell No??? :lol:

I liked Chr'll the character, but not as the shredder. I love the alien warlord thing, but I think shredder should always be human.
I wouldn't mind seeing chr'll again in TMNT, but not as the shredder.

[ToTheNines]

I wouldn't mind seeing chr'll again in TMNT, but not as the shredder.

Now there's an interesting thought... wonder how that could be pulled off.

[Jester]

Now there's an interesting thought... wonder how that could be pulled off.
The Kraang?

[oldmanwinters]

I wouldn't want the Shredder to be an Utrom again, but I might enjoy watching an Utrom become a Shredder at some point.;)

[Jester]

I wouldn't want the Shredder to be an Utrom again, but I might enjoy watching an Utrom become a Shredder at some point.;)
So you're of the Shredder=Mantle persuasion.

I'm not again it, myself. :D

[gobo]

No, thanks. I liked how 4kids pulled it off, but it would be creatively bankrupt to try and repeat it.

[Jester]

No, thanks. I liked how 4kids pulled it off, but it would be creatively bankrupt to try and repeat it.
I guess I mean, I'm not against the Shredder being a mantel...I don't want an Utrom Shredder, unless they can pull it off incredibly well.

[Sinister Shogun]

Utrom shredder was way awesome IMO. In the comics we rarely ever saw him except in the big Eastman/laird events. I like how just making shredder an utrom made the rest of the seasons past 1 so original. I really loved what was done with the 4kids stuff....except fast forward....I prefer my turtles in the present unless it's a one ep/issue thing...

[gobo]

I guess I mean, I'm not against the Shredder being a mantel...I don't want an Utrom Shredder, unless they can pull it off incredibly well.
O_o Dude... I didn't quote you cuz I wasn't responding to you. One day a week where not everything's about you is all I ask. :P I approve of Shredder being a legacy character. But, Utrom Shredder shouldn't happen again.

[Jester]

O_o Dude... I didn't quote you cuz I wasn't responding to you. One day a week where not everything's about you is all I ask. :P I approve of Shredder being a legacy character. But, Utrom Shredder shouldn't happen again.
Wasn't sure...That and here at work it kinda auto quotes anyway.

[CyberCubed]

Nah. This was one of those, "it was good for a one-time thing" sort of situation.

I liked the 4kids Shredder being different than all the other Shredder's. I don't want to see it repeated however.

[Powder]

Inb4 Umtromshredderhater starts raging hardbody.

As for me (despite teasing the aforementioned user) I'm not the biggest fan of Utrom Shredder as a whole, but rather for 2k3.
I'd vote yes, because I liked the concept, but the only reason it worked for me is because it was a surprise.
I don't think it would strike the same chord if done a second time.

[Cryomancer]

Have a giant "shredders only" tournament in the battle nexus, bring back all of em, throw in the ones they never did (ie triceraton). Uncle Phil vs Image Raph vs Chrell vs females vs clone worms etc. Would make more sense then somehow coming up with yet another in-the-same-universe shredder like they've done way too many times.

I'm usually in the "get over him and move on. he dies in the first issue" camp, but I did like Chrell a lot and I don't really care if they try it again someyear. Utrom was a lot cooler than demon/tengu/whatever else anyway. But ideally, I'd like them to just go with new damn villians at this point.

[Sinister Shogun]

hey i'm not a lone wolf anymore....heh heh

[Keldor1578]

If they decide to use the utrom Shredder again, I would prefer Ch'rell to be alien parasite like the goa'uld from stargate sg-1 by taking the human body of Oroku Saki instead of using exosuit.

Now the only thing I never want to see again is Shredder to be a tengu. What an awful character.

[plasticturtle]

It wouldn't bother me. I prefer human Shredder but him being an utrom again would be fine as long as they pulled it off well.

[Keldor1578]

The Kraang?

making Ch'rell into one of the Kraang from nick toon would be a bad idea.

[shuriken]

No, thanks. I liked how 4kids pulled it off, but it would be creatively bankrupt to try and repeat it.

I totally agree. It was done once and it was done fairly well. Do something different this time around.

[BAXTER STOCKMAN 19]

The utrom Shredder is my favorite Shredder. yes i would like to see antoher utrom shredder.

[RiseAbove873]

Human all the way.

[TobTurn]

No! I love Ch'rell, he is the most awesome Shredder of all time - but I don't want to see him being an Utrom again. That's an '03 thing.
I love referring to him as the One True Shredder - because he is - if we have another Utrom Shredder that'd just be weird for me, ESPECIALLY if he's gonna have Ch'rells personality - another One, True Shredder? There can only be one and if they both are the same character that's gonna be a bit harder, although he'd never be better/more badass the One, True Ch'rell or the One, True Utrom ánd original Shredder (that's what I'm gonna call him if we happen to get another Ch'rell Shredder)

I wóuld love it to see him dimension-hop again though, in some sort of special or something.
Not gonna happen though and my fantasies about him going running the 2012 Turtle world yelling that he's the One True Shredder and teaming up with the 2012 Shredder to eventually betray and destroy him are not gonna happen either :p

Ch'rell as a different villain than the Shredder would be kind of okay, as long as he controls/destroys the 2012 Shredder. He'd still be a fool taking the name of The One True Ch'rell, though.

[ABrown]

I enjoyed the Chrell character. I was one who didn't see it coming. Call me blind, dense, or simply stupid.

No, you're definitely not. The first season gave every indication that the was a human.

Can I get a Hell No??? :lol:

Couldn't have phrased it better myself.

I wouldn't mind seeing chr'll again in TMNT, but not as the shredder.

I'd actually be ok with that as well. Ch'rell wasn't the worst character ever, he's just not the Shredder.

[TobTurn]

he's just not the Shredder.

I'm trying to stay calm here...

[1984TMNT]

For me, it's simple:

Shredder = Human

'Nuff said.

[Redeemer]

making Ch'rell into one of the Kraang from nick toon would be a bad idea.

Really I think it would be awesome!, Chr'll to me in the 4kids series was like a fusion of shredder and Krang from the OT. He is a Ninja master in controll of the foot. But he was also an alien warlord.
So I would like to see him as part of the Kraang in the new series:D

[Coola Yagami]

The main problem with the OT and 2K3 one was that just because the old Shredder was human and a loser... and the new one was an Utrom and bad-ass... it gave everyone the idea that a human Shredder is lame and Shredder just HAS to be an alien to be awesome. I mean... can't Shredder be both human AND bad-ass? I mean... we all thought he was a bad-ass human ninja until Secret Origins revealed his past... well and before he lost his head, picked it up and walked off... but still.. you get the piont...

[TobTurn]

The main problem with the OT and 2K3 one was that just because the old Shredder was human and a loser... and the new one was an Utrom and bad-ass... it gave everyone the idea that a human Shredder is lame and Shredder just HAS to be an alien to be awesome. I mean... can't Shredder be both human AND bad-ass? I mean... we all thought he was a bad-ass human ninja until Secret Origins revealed his past... well and before he lost his head, picked it up and walked off... but still.. you get the piont...

I don't think Shredder has to be alien to be bad-ass. I'd rather have a human Shredder in the new series/movies than an alien one. But that's because if he were an alien, he'd take away some of the glory Ch'rell has. Ch'rell needs to be the only Utrom/alien Shredder, imo.
A bad-ass human Shredder is what I want, unless they'd somehow bring back the true Shredder (not a reincarnation of this character, just the character itself), then I'd actually want to keep him. But since this, ofcourse, obviously is not gonna happen I want a human Shredder. I wouldn't like a Demon-Shredder as much as a fully human one, but if someone actually does make Shredder a demon againhe should still have a human-body, like the Tengu-Shredder from the '03 series.

[Redeemer]

The main problem with the OT and 2K3 one was that just because the old Shredder was human and a loser... and the new one was an Utrom and bad-ass... it gave everyone the idea that a human Shredder is lame and Shredder just HAS to be an alien to be awesome. I mean... can't Shredder be both human AND bad-ass? I mean... we all thought he was a bad-ass human ninja until Secret Origins revealed his past... well and before he lost his head, picked it up and walked off... but still.. you get the piont...

What about movie 1 shredder???? He was human and pretty bad ass!!!! I mean the foot overal was pretty awesome!!! This incarnation of the foot was probably my favorite either that or the Eastman & Laird version:D

[Shreddhead]

I didnt really dislike the utrom shredder, he was definitively more sinister than the 87 toon version. but when i consider the hilarity of the Avery version combined with the pure awesomeness of the comic shredder, I have to say i very much hope he returns in his human form.