Would you ever want Shredder to be an Utrom again?

*ToTheNines* · 06-15-2011, 06:27 PM

The suckery vs. the bad-assery of Utrom Shredder is constantly debated on these threads (to the point where it's really annoying) but I have a new question:

Whether you liked Shredder being an Utrom or not, would you ever care to see his character go that route in any new comics/cartoons/movies?

I liked what they did with the 4kids show, and I hope it "leaves its mark" on the TMNT franchise, but I hope no one ever borrows that particular story element.

*Candy Kappa* · 06-15-2011, 06:39 PM

I feel it should be the 4kids series thing, same as Krang being a Fred Wolf and Archie thing

*ToTheNines* · 06-15-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

same as Krang being a Fred Wolf and Archie thing

I would disagree with that statement, but now that I think about it, I doubt anyone could make him as funny/awesome as he was.

*Revan* · 06-15-2011, 06:54 PM

I enjoyed the Chrell character. I was one who didn't see it coming. Call me blind, dense, or simply stupid. In my opinion, the 2k3 version of Shredder was the most menacing and it was fun having a serious enemy to root against. However, I don't need to see the shredder as an utrom again. Been there, done that. next?

*Redeemer* · 06-15-2011, 07:02 PM

Can I get a Hell No???

I liked Chr'll the character, but not as the shredder. I love the alien warlord thing, but I think shredder should always be human.
I wouldn't mind seeing chr'll again in TMNT, but not as the shredder.

*ToTheNines* · 06-15-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

I wouldn't mind seeing chr'll again in TMNT, but not as the shredder.

Now there's an interesting thought... wonder how that could be pulled off.

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Now there's an interesting thought... wonder how that could be pulled off.

The Kraang?

*oldmanwinters* · 06-15-2011, 07:23 PM

I wouldn't want the Shredder to be an Utrom again, but I might enjoy watching an Utrom become a Shredder at some point.

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I wouldn't want the Shredder to be an Utrom again, but I might enjoy watching an Utrom become a Shredder at some point.

So you're of the Shredder=Mantle persuasion.

Spoiler:

*gobo* · 06-15-2011, 07:49 PM

No, thanks. I liked how 4kids pulled it off, but it would be creatively bankrupt to try and repeat it.

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

No, thanks. I liked how 4kids pulled it off, but it would be creatively bankrupt to try and repeat it.

I guess I mean, I'm not against the Shredder being a mantel...I don't want an Utrom Shredder, unless they can pull it off incredibly well.

Sinister Shogun · 06-15-2011, 08:00 PM

Utrom shredder was way awesome IMO. In the comics we rarely ever saw him except in the big Eastman/laird events. I like how just making shredder an utrom made the rest of the seasons past 1 so original. I really loved what was done with the 4kids stuff....except fast forward....I prefer my turtles in the present unless it's a one ep/issue thing...

*gobo* · 06-15-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I guess I mean, I'm not against the Shredder being a mantel...I don't want an Utrom Shredder, unless they can pull it off incredibly well.

O_o Dude... I didn't quote you cuz I wasn't responding to you. One day a week where not everything's about you is all I ask.

I approve of Shredder being a legacy character. But, Utrom Shredder shouldn't happen again.

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

O_o Dude... I didn't quote you cuz I wasn't responding to you. One day a week where not everything's about you is all I ask.

I approve of Shredder being a legacy character. But, Utrom Shredder shouldn't happen again.

Wasn't sure...That and here at work it kinda auto quotes anyway.

*CyberCubed* · 06-15-2011, 08:37 PM

Nah. This was one of those, "it was good for a one-time thing" sort of situation.

I liked the 4kids Shredder being different than all the other Shredder's. I don't want to see it repeated however.

*Powder* · 06-15-2011, 08:42 PM

Inb4 Umtromshredderhater starts raging hardbody.

As for me (despite teasing the aforementioned user) I'm not the biggest fan of Utrom Shredder as a whole, but rather for 2k3.
I'd vote yes, because I liked the concept, but the only reason it worked for me is because it was a surprise.
I don't think it would strike the same chord if done a second time.

Cryomancer · 06-16-2011, 12:56 AM

Have a giant "shredders only" tournament in the battle nexus, bring back all of em, throw in the ones they never did (ie triceraton). Uncle Phil vs Image Raph vs Chrell vs females vs clone worms etc. Would make more sense then somehow coming up with yet another in-the-same-universe shredder like they've done way too many times.

I'm usually in the "get over him and move on. he dies in the first issue" camp, but I did like Chrell a lot and I don't really care if they try it again someyear. Utrom was a lot cooler than demon/tengu/whatever else anyway. But ideally, I'd like them to just go with new damn villians at this point.

Sinister Shogun · 06-16-2011, 03:25 AM

hey i'm not a lone wolf anymore....heh heh

Keldor1578 · 06-16-2011, 04:02 AM

If they decide to use the utrom Shredder again, I would prefer Ch'rell to be alien parasite like the goa'uld from stargate sg-1 by taking the human body of Oroku Saki instead of using exosuit.

Now the only thing I never want to see again is Shredder to be a tengu. What an awful character.

plasticturtle · 06-16-2011, 07:31 AM

It wouldn't bother me. I prefer human Shredder but him being an utrom again would be fine as long as they pulled it off well.

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06-15-2011, 06:27 PM	#1
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,135	Would you ever want Shredder to be an Utrom again? The suckery vs. the bad-assery of Utrom Shredder is constantly debated on these threads (to the point where it's really annoying) but I have a new question: Whether you liked Shredder being an Utrom or not, would you ever care to see his character go that route in any new comics/cartoons/movies? I liked what they did with the 4kids show, and I hope it "leaves its mark" on the TMNT franchise, but I hope no one ever borrows that particular story element.

06-15-2011, 06:39 PM	#2
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I feel it should be the 4kids series thing, same as Krang being a Fred Wolf and Archie thing __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

06-15-2011, 06:54 PM	#4
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	I enjoyed the Chrell character. I was one who didn't see it coming. Call me blind, dense, or simply stupid. In my opinion, the 2k3 version of Shredder was the most menacing and it was fun having a serious enemy to root against. However, I don't need to see the shredder as an utrom again. Been there, done that. next? __________________

06-15-2011, 07:02 PM	#5
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Can I get a Hell No??? I liked Chr'll the character, but not as the shredder. I love the alien warlord thing, but I think shredder should always be human. I wouldn't mind seeing chr'll again in TMNT, but not as the shredder. __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

06-15-2011, 07:23 PM	#8
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,463	I wouldn't want the Shredder to be an Utrom again, but I might enjoy watching an Utrom become a Shredder at some point. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

06-15-2011, 07:49 PM	#10
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	No, thanks. I liked how 4kids pulled it off, but it would be creatively bankrupt to try and repeat it. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

06-15-2011, 08:00 PM	#12
Sinister Shogun Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 35	Utrom shredder was way awesome IMO. In the comics we rarely ever saw him except in the big Eastman/laird events. I like how just making shredder an utrom made the rest of the seasons past 1 so original. I really loved what was done with the 4kids stuff....except fast forward....I prefer my turtles in the present unless it's a one ep/issue thing...

06-15-2011, 08:37 PM	#15
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,742	Nah. This was one of those, "it was good for a one-time thing" sort of situation. I liked the 4kids Shredder being different than all the other Shredder's. I don't want to see it repeated however.

06-15-2011, 08:42 PM	#16
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Inb4 Umtromshredderhater starts raging hardbody. As for me (despite teasing the aforementioned user) I'm not the biggest fan of Utrom Shredder as a whole, but rather for 2k3. I'd vote yes, because I liked the concept, but the only reason it worked for me is because it was a surprise. I don't think it would strike the same chord if done a second time.

06-16-2011, 12:56 AM	#17
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Have a giant "shredders only" tournament in the battle nexus, bring back all of em, throw in the ones they never did (ie triceraton). Uncle Phil vs Image Raph vs Chrell vs females vs clone worms etc. Would make more sense then somehow coming up with yet another in-the-same-universe shredder like they've done way too many times. I'm usually in the "get over him and move on. he dies in the first issue" camp, but I did like Chrell a lot and I don't really care if they try it again someyear. Utrom was a lot cooler than demon/tengu/whatever else anyway. But ideally, I'd like them to just go with new damn villians at this point. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

06-16-2011, 03:25 AM	#18
Sinister Shogun Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 35	hey i'm not a lone wolf anymore....heh heh

06-16-2011, 04:02 AM	#19
Keldor1578 Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 265	If they decide to use the utrom Shredder again, I would prefer Ch'rell to be alien parasite like the goa'uld from stargate sg-1 by taking the human body of Oroku Saki instead of using exosuit. Now the only thing I never want to see again is Shredder to be a tengu. What an awful character. Last edited by Keldor1578; 06-16-2011 at 04:07 AM.

06-16-2011, 07:31 AM	#20
plasticturtle Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 224	It wouldn't bother me. I prefer human Shredder but him being an utrom again would be fine as long as they pulled it off well.