How far/popular will this series have to go to make it a success? [Archive]

pannoni1

08-24-2011, 04:08 PM

There are some cartoons that only last a couple seasons but remain successes. Generally, this only applies to original series. Given that this will be the third incarnation of an animated show, a lot is riding on helping, maintaining, or even hurting the TMNT brand. Of course everyone hopes that this show lasts 7-10 seasons, 150-200 episodes, new movies/video games, a surge in comic/toy collecting, and other merchandise like what happened in the wake of the Fred Wolf series. On the other hand, poor management, poor quality (i.e. bad show), or overhype can hurt the TMNT brand, which can even affect the earlier series; sure no matter what happens, there will always be fans of the older TMNT series for nostalgia, but that won't allow younger fans to "discover" the older stuff; this is why franchises such as Woody Woodpecker and Popeye, popular with Baby Boomers, no longer resonate with today's kids/young adults that well. We don't want TMNT to head in that direction.

At the end of the day, I'd say if the show went at least 5 seasons or 100 episodes, I'd consider it a success. Nick shows tend to get frequent reruns, so it is important for shows to be nearly as fresh the 10th time they're rerun before the next batch of episodes arrive. But this generation on the other hand is different; kids rather watch stuff on-demand, so having quality material is very important; it's not like before the Internet when I grew up where I simply watched what was on; today's kids tend to be better in terms of what they really want to watch. Plus, especially later in this potential run, you'll have parents of kids who grew up with the Fred Wolf toon, so good family friendly entertainment can go a long way toward success.

CyberCubed

08-24-2011, 05:06 PM

Bauer536

08-24-2011, 07:14 PM

As much as I think you can't beat the original, I hope this show does very well. Very well, that it would have more seasons than Spongebob Squarepants. If that doesn't happen, then I'm still hoping that it does very well no matter what. It doesn't have to have 10 or 7 seasons to be successful. It can just be a great show that gets a lot of PR. If it does go up to 10 seasons, I may be amazed. The only problem with it having more seasons like 8 or 10 is the show may go downhill with inspiration and storylines. It still might be fun. I'm guessing that you found all 10 seasons fun from the OT series.:tsmile: I guess we'll just have to see. Still, CyberCubed, what do you mean, "I doubt it would though"? Do you believe it won't be bad?:tconfuse:

Powder

08-24-2011, 07:38 PM

He doubts it will bomb...

Bauer536

08-24-2011, 08:05 PM

He doubts it will bomb...

Excellent!:tsmile::tgrin::tcool::twink:

Just what I thought. Thanks, Powder.

Koi

08-24-2011, 08:06 PM

Considering the 4kids series was a success and its ratings were never very good, I'd say a show airing on Nick which will get a ton of promotion should do fine.

Since Nick owns the property, I can see them keeping the show alive for 7-8 years assuming it doesn't bomb quickly. I doubt it would though.

Saying that it was successful and in the same breath saying it had bad ratings isn't the best way to back yourself up on that statement.

Also, Nick doesn't mean instant success. Look at it's other cgi shows...

I think the show will day 5 years or less. 3 years is my guess.

Bauer536

08-24-2011, 08:13 PM

Saying that it was successful and in the same breath saying it had bad ratings isn't the best way to back yourself up on that statement.

Also, Nick doesn't mean instant success. Look at it's other cgi shows...

I think the show will day 5 years or less. 3 years is my guess.

I don't know. These are the TMNT. They're likely to do very well. Besides, I love The Penguins of Madagascar.:tsmile: Nick does have some good CGI shows. I just don't like ones such as Fanboy and Chum Chum. That one looks like it'll be forgettable. With TMNT arriving, this will definitely be a replacement for shows like Spongebob and iCarly.

Koi

08-24-2011, 08:16 PM

I don't know. These are the TMNT. They're likely to do very well. Besides, I love The Penguins of Madagascar.:tsmile:

I think the show would get views do mainly to the voice acting crew besides that... I think this show will die slowly away. TMNT isn't really the most popular crud if you haven't noticed sir. Just because it is TMNT does not make it an instant success.

Bauer536

08-24-2011, 09:12 PM

I think the show would get views do mainly to the voice acting crew besides that... I think this show will die slowly away. TMNT isn't really the most popular crud if you haven't noticed sir. Just because it is TMNT does not make it an instant success.

Sorry. I'm just hoping it becomes more popular. I'm getting tired of DC and Marvel superheroes getting all the spotlight. I do like them, though. Maybe it's something like Transformers that I don't like. I wish that wasn't that popular.

Koi

08-24-2011, 09:44 PM

Don't be sorry. Who knows 100% what it will actually do. It might be a hit might be a miss. My guess is it won't last very long because of a lot of things that go through my mind about the entire thing...

CyberCubed

08-24-2011, 09:59 PM

Saying that it was successful and in the same breath saying it had bad ratings isn't the best way to back yourself up on that statement.

Also, Nick doesn't mean instant success. Look at it's other cgi shows...

I think the show will day 5 years or less. 3 years is my guess.

It was decently successful for a cartoon airing today, although it obviously wasn't as popular as it could have been. 7 years, 156 episodes, a TV movie, and an extensive toy and videogame line to support it over those 7 years was a moderate success.

As for the Nick show, I doubt they wanted to spend $60 million on a franchise, support it for 3-5 years, and then dump it.

Oniri

08-25-2011, 01:01 AM

It was decently successful for a cartoon airing today, although it obviously wasn't as popular as it could have been. 7 years, 156 episodes, a TV movie, and an extensive toy and videogame line to support it over those 7 years was a moderate success.

As for the Nick show, I doubt they wanted to spend $60 million on a franchise, support it for 3-5 years, and then dump it.

Well, that kinda my view on it. I want the show to do well, but I don't think that it is possible for the show to run 7 years let alone over 4 (at least without an hiatus). Though CGI is quick and convenient in many ways, as far as I know, it is not cheap. In less the show brings in a HUGE amount of dough through viewers and toys sales, eventually the cost out wins the benefit. :ohwell:

TheCanadiandrome

08-25-2011, 12:22 PM

let's just wait to see how it's received first before we go predicting success or failure

The Stryker

08-25-2011, 06:29 PM

Threads like this are dumb but I'm just going to say right now that it's probably not going to be as good as iCarly and not even in the same stratosphere as Spongbob.

Jester

08-25-2011, 07:23 PM

*snycker*
Stryker watched iCarly....

Koi

08-26-2011, 04:04 PM

I like icarly... I watch it for Spencer. :3

mysterycolor

08-26-2011, 07:59 PM

t.m.n.icarly?

Bauer536

08-26-2011, 09:02 PM

I don't know what's going to happen. Like I always say, "We'll just have to wait and see." I don't want to get my hopes up, but I hope this will be a good show.

Besides, I'm hoping TMNT is going to be big like Sponebob, but without all the idiocy and constant crying in every episode.:tlol: Nick is working very hard on this than they are with Supah Ninjas. I bet this will go far. Maybe not with 10 seasons, but just with the right amount of years. Maybe they'll stop the show when the turtles turn 21.:twink:

Jester

08-26-2011, 10:38 PM

Maybe they'll stop the show when the turtles turn 21.:twink:
20...they won't be teenagers any more at 20.

Bauer536

08-27-2011, 06:11 AM

20...they won't be teenagers any more at 20.

I guess you're right. I just said 21 because it's the legal drinking age.:tlol: Besides, I wouldn't mind if this show had 7 seasons, as long as Nick doesn't have some stupid Fast Forward thing going on. Hopefully, they'll stay focused.

Slap-Happy

09-08-2011, 08:31 PM

I guess you're right. I just said 21 because it's the legal drinking age.:tlol:

What does that have to do with anything?

Bauer536

09-08-2011, 08:49 PM

What does that have to do with anything?

It was just a joke. No big deal.

In that case, I'm still hoping for five seasons or so. Something really good.

LotusBlossom

09-23-2011, 09:59 AM

Personally, I'd say ...

About 3 or 4 seasons (and roughly around 75 episodes).

However, realistically speaking, it'll probably be more like 2.5 seasons (50 or so episodes) before everybody involved gets bored and moves on to other things.

Floatingyeti

09-23-2011, 11:43 AM

a weird question but in order for the new show to be aired in reruns for years to come, does it have to have enough episodes to qualify for syndication? or is this totally a mute point since it would be animated by nickelodeon and not able to air anywhere else in the future.

has any show originated on nickelodeon and aired elsewhere?

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19

09-23-2011, 02:55 PM

if it has at least as many episodes as the OT or 2K3 had it will be a succes. but for it to become more popular than OT and 2K3 then it must have more than 200 episodes something that is difficult to happen.

Xav

09-23-2011, 06:50 PM

It was decently successful for a cartoon airing today, although it obviously wasn't as popular as it could have been. 7 years, 156 episodes, a TV movie, and an extensive toy and videogame line to support it over those 7 years was a moderate success. That sounds pretty good to me. Many shows don't last that long. If that's a moderate success, what would it have had to do to by a major success?

Bauer536

09-23-2011, 07:51 PM

I think Batman: The Animated Series had about 4 seasons or so. That, I call, a major success. It doesn't matter how long it is, it only matters if it has a good run. Usually, for shows that go on for too long, they become very weak. My philosophy for making television shows: Sitcoms for 5-6 seasons, Dramas or Action/Sci-Fi shows for 5-7 seasons.:tsmile: So I wouldn't mind TMNT having 7 seasons for this new series, as long as they don't have a whole year of them in the future and that stuff.:tsmile:

Jester

09-23-2011, 08:07 PM

there were 3 original seasons with 65 episodes (40 in season 1,10 in 2,15 in 3) and then there were 2 seasons of The New Batman Adventures once Superman: TAS became a hit. There were 24 episodes in these 2 seasons, bringing the total to 89 episode.

I think if the series is strong...let it run as long as it remains so.

Bauer536

09-23-2011, 08:18 PM

ninjafowlkes8705

09-24-2011, 03:14 PM

it be like the 80's cartoon/00 cartoon but it will crush spongebob,i carly ,fanboy and chum chum,avatar,and preschool shows up in 5 mins:tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol:

Bauer536

09-24-2011, 05:53 PM

it be like the 80's cartoon/00 cartoon but it will crush spongebob,i carly ,fanboy and chum chum,avatar,and preschool shows up in 5 mins:tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol:

Crushing Spongebob: YESSSS!:tlol:

Crushing iCarly: Watch it. I don't mind that show. I sometimes like it.:tsad:

Crushing Fanboy and Chum Chum: Double yes! I don't hear about that anymore.:tlol:

Chrushing Avatar: Don't mess with the original Last Airbender. That was a great show. It's Legend of Korra I'm not so sure about.:tgrumble:

Here's some that should be crushed - Big Time Rush, Fairly Odd Parents (are they still on), Supah Ninjas, Power Rangers Samurai, Bucket and Skinner, Dora the Explorer, and possibly the Kung-Fu Panda series coming on. I don't know. I prefer four turtles than the Furious Five.:tlol:

The Stryker

09-24-2011, 06:10 PM

it be like the 80's cartoon/00 cartoon but it will crush spongebob,i carly ,fanboy and chum chum,avatar,and preschool shows up in 5 mins:tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol:

What is this nonsense?

All of the hate on iCarly just shows how popular it is. Dora is also mighty awesome.

Jester

09-24-2011, 07:14 PM

Never have watched iCarley, but it doesn't seem as EVERYWHERE as Hannah Montana was, so I hold it no ill will.

The Stryker

09-24-2011, 10:07 PM

Why would you dislike a show because it's everywhere? Hannah Montana was a pretty decent show for what it was.

Jester

09-24-2011, 10:29 PM

Why would you dislike a show because it's everywhere? Hannah Montana was a pretty decent show for what it was.
You know...I don't know. I just had this weird loathing for seeing Miley Cyrus' mug all over the place, but it's not like there weren't series and merchandise in the past that plastered the characters face all over the place...so I'm really at a loss.

CyberCubed

09-24-2011, 10:45 PM

Those shows are aimed at pre-teen girls. Obviously 20+ year old men aren't going to have an interest.

Jester

09-24-2011, 10:48 PM

Those shows are aimed at pre-teen girls. Obviously 20+ year old men aren't going to have an interest.
Shhh...Stryker seems to be the exception to that rule...

Bauer536

09-25-2011, 07:39 AM

Why would you dislike a show because it's everywhere? Hannah Montana was a pretty decent show for what it was.

I'd have to agree somewhat. Hannah Montana was a decent show, and I liked how it started. Once the movie came out, I thought that was going to be like a finale. It turns out, they had two more seasons to go. The last two seasons were very weak. Everything just wasn't as funny as it used to be. Plus, this was a sign that Miley Cyrus was done with Hannah. I could see why. You don't want the world to remember you as a teen singer who's like your alter ego. Miley should have just said, "I want to finish this so I can just be myself and have fun." Sure, I think she went too far (Must I mention salvia?), but I always thought she had potential. I don't know. She's got this Stevie Nicks quality to her voice. I still have hope for her, even if I think she's crazy.:tsmile:

So yeah, I liked Hannah Montana, but I thought it was big until the third season. I feel iCarly has been strong throughout each season, but that only depends on what you find good episodes. I missed the one with Jim Parsons, and I think that one must have done well. Why? It's iCarly. Also, it's Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory.:tgrin:

The Stryker

09-25-2011, 08:31 AM

Those shows are aimed at pre-teen girls. Obviously 20+ year old men aren't going to have an interest.

There's a difference between not having interest and hating a show because it's popular.

Also we're living in a world where the entire fanbase of My Little Pony is made up of 20 something males. Things are alittle skewed nowadays. (That is a weird one that I will never understand.)

Shhh...Stryker seems to be the exception to that rule...

It's called having a niece.

TheSkeletonMan939

09-25-2011, 07:04 PM

Well, I'd call it a success if it has a good story structure that challenges that of The Spectacular Spider-Man. Everything in that show was connected and everything made sense. The only problem with a show like that is that if you're cancelled before everything's wrapped up.

Jester

09-25-2011, 07:18 PM

It's called having a niece.
Dooley noted, but is iCarley really one of those transcendent shows that reaches little girls and their poor uncles that are forced to watch it?

The Stryker

09-25-2011, 08:01 PM

It's a genuinely funny show and I think so atleast.

Stingray69

09-25-2011, 08:12 PM

I like icarly to.

CyberCubed

09-26-2011, 08:25 AM

The show should last a number of years. If its a hit, I expect a 7 year run.

They already have 26 episodes for Season 1, so most likely we'll get over 100 episodes of it if it goes on for over 5 years.

So far every TMNT cartoon has over 150 episodes, I hope this one can to.

cryan

09-26-2011, 01:16 PM

I don't want to though a monkey wrench into this but Nick cartoons(with the exception of Spongebob which hasn't had any new episodes)don't last long.I do hope the new TMNT series lasts for a long time.

Bauer536

09-29-2011, 09:50 PM

Cowabunga Carl

09-30-2011, 02:19 PM

Penguins is doing decently and has had a couple of DTV movies, and there are other shows that get new episodes from time to time. The problem with most Nick shows though are they are shown so much that they need to be episodic and not really have story lines that follow through.

TMNT has a couple things going for it though. It has the older generation that is nostalgic for it. These are the parents of todays younger generation. It is something that they will be more willing to sit down and watch with their kids because they have fond memories of it.

Then you have the fact that the quality of product being put out seems to be of a better quality of late. Thundercats, MLP, and TF: Prime being a few examples. They have to raise the bar if they don't want to fall to other brands. The market right now is full of programing to chose from. If they don't step up and deliver a high quality show then they lose out on something that has potential to be a cash cow for them.

With the comic doing so well as it has with only two issues out but reprints already having to happen the future looks bright for TMNT. However I believe that it would be in the properties best interest to do a campaign tying together the different products they are putting out. Reach out to each crowd and try to cross pollinate.

cryan

09-30-2011, 02:31 PM

I rhink the reason that Nick is going with CGI for this series is that Clone Wars is doing very will.Clone Wars is on its 4th season.So,I wouldn't put it past The producers of the new TMNT series decided on CGI.As I said I wonder how April will look.I wouldn't be surpised to see the action figure line at next years Toyfair.

Cowabunga Carl

09-30-2011, 03:03 PM

I can not wait to see the toy line. Working at ToysRus has it's perks.

I agree I think the success of The Clone Wars, Penguins of Madagascar, and other CGI shows were an influence on the choice to got that way. Also I think it was another step to make it different then what came before.

Bauer536

09-30-2011, 10:47 PM

I just want to say, the best CGI shows there are right now are The Penguins of Madagascar and Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Best hand-drawn animated shows: Batman: Brave and the Bold, Thundercats, and sometimes The Looney Tunes show. The ones I have not mentioned are probably obvious that I don't like them, especially like Regular Show or Fanboy and Chum Chum.:tlol:

So yeah. I think this may get somewhere for audiences old and new. The good part about this new series is we know some things that will happen on the new show (e.g. Yoshi as Splinter). As for the IDW comics: I'm kind of happy for the success, but I don't like the direction it's going. I never really cared for the new comics that much anyway. I love something more when it comes to life on the small or the big screen.:tsmile:

Cowabunga Carl

09-30-2011, 11:01 PM

My biggest hope is that this show actually tie some episodes together but at the same time makes each episode seem like a mini movie like the Clone Wars does.

Fantomex

10-06-2011, 02:21 PM

You know, I hope this cartoon is good on Nick, but I really wish they would give the reigns over to the guys at Cartoon Network, and air a TMNT cartoon on Adult Swim, this way we could have the old school, volume 1 Eastman and Laird turtles with mature content like only Adult Swim can do...

Zany Orange Dude

10-29-2011, 12:54 PM

My personal opinion is that part of this shows success relies on how the new generation embraces it. Another part is the obvious things such as quality of the animation, intriguing plots, interesting/likable characters, and ect.
I really hope this show does well. I am afraid to get my hopes to high and get crushed like they did with the new Looney Tunes Show. But, for some reason, I have a feeling this will be better than that.
I suppose all we can do is wait and hope until the first couple of episodes are released before we can make logical estimations on its success.

Bauer536

10-29-2011, 04:12 PM

Zany Orange Dude

10-29-2011, 05:04 PM

That Looney Tunes show isn't bad. Besides, I'd like to see this as Star Wars: The Clone Wars meets Batman: Brave and the Bold.

Don't get me wrong, The Looney Tunes show isn't the most God awful thing that has ever been on TV. In fact I don't think it's a bad show at all. It just wasn't what I had been expecting. I still watched all the episodes as they came out, I was just expecting more slapstick. Not seeing any anvils, mallets, or dynamites kind of upset me. But it still is a good show (better than a lot of stuff on TV now a days for that matter).

Bauer536

11-08-2011, 06:59 PM

CyberCubed

11-08-2011, 07:01 PM

Okay. This just dawned on me:

I found out people liked Spongebob for its first 3 seasons, and then said it went downhill from there. I must ask, would 3 or 4 seasons be approriate for the new TMNT show? I mean, I'd love seven just to outrank the 2k3 series, but then again, that may be a bad idea. Who knows? I'm hoping the later seasons is not going to make the series go down. Let's hope the original writers don't leave. Usually, when they do leave, that's when a show looses its magic . . . sometimes, not always. What do you guys think?:tconfuse:

What does that have to do with TMNT? If the writing stays consistently good it can go on for 7-10 seasons.

Bauer536

11-08-2011, 07:59 PM

What does that have to do with TMNT? If the writing stays consistently good it can go on for 7-10 seasons.

Sorry. I'm still worried about a great show going down hill. Hopefully, this will be a good show, no matter if it has some bad episodes. Every show is like that.:tsmile:

Zany Orange Dude

11-08-2011, 08:17 PM

Okay. This just dawned on me:

I found out people liked Spongebob for its first 3 seasons, and then said it went downhill from there. I must ask, would 3 or 4 seasons be approriate for the new TMNT show? I mean, I'd love seven just to outrank the 2k3 series, but then again, that may be a bad idea. Who knows? I'm hoping the later seasons is not going to make the series go down. Let's hope the original writers don't leave. Usually, when they do leave, that's when a show looses its magic . . . sometimes, not always. What do you guys think?:tconfuse:

I think I understand what you are saying. Usually after a few seasons of a show, the writers get bored with it so that touch of 'magic' or the staffs love and inspiration for writting it diminishes. So you are afraid that if the show goes on too long, even if it was once good, it might go downhill like Spongebob, correct? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Bauer536

11-08-2011, 08:53 PM

I think I understand what you are saying. Usually after a few seasons of a show, the writers get bored with it so that touch of 'magic' or the staffs love and inspiration for writting it diminishes. So you are afraid that if the show goes on too long, even if it was once good, it might go downhill like Spongebob, correct? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Correct.:tsmile:

Anyway, it may not go downhill. I don't know. There are always good shows, but yet, seem to have weaker storylines. TMNT may not be like that this time.

Zany Orange Dude

11-08-2011, 09:06 PM

I hope your right, Bauer.:tgrin:
Maybe this show will be a rare occasion in which it is good through all it's seasons!:tsmile:

k_lala

11-14-2011, 07:06 PM

CyberCubed

11-14-2011, 09:39 PM

I would expect a 7 year run at the minimum. If 4kids could keep TMNT going for 7 years despite low ratings and being on an obscure network, you can sure as hell bet Nick will give TMNT star treatment.

Of course, I'd still like to see a TMNT show last for 200 episodes, but it remains to be seen if it'll happen.

The Stryker

11-15-2011, 07:26 AM

Its guaranteed a success! Nick owns TMNT so they can't really cancel it, too much is invested. It's not like they bought it so they can let it sit and collect dust. This is going to have more seasons possibly than the 4Kids version. It's possible, 4Kids had stake in TMNT back then and got to finish the way they wanted too.

Uhh...If the show doesn't catch on and nobody watches or cares about it they won't hesitate to cancel it.

They own TMNT so they could just make whatever money they can on dvd re-releases and the like. They won't keep a failing show on the air just because they own it.

Bauer536

11-17-2011, 06:24 PM

This show is likely not to be cancelled. Like I said, it's the Supah Ninjas that will lose the battle, hopefully. TMNT will win this war.:tsmile:

The Stryker

11-18-2011, 06:47 AM

This show is likely not to be cancelled. Like I said, it's the Supah Ninjas that will lose the battle, hopefully. TMNT will win this war.:tsmile:

What f*cking war? They're on the same network. There's no war except in your head.

CyberCubed

11-18-2011, 10:35 AM

Uhh...If the show doesn't catch on and nobody watches or cares about it they won't hesitate to cancel it.

They own TMNT so they could just make whatever money they can on dvd re-releases and the like. They won't keep a failing show on the air just because they own it.

They'll advertise the hell out of it and give it star treatment on the network because they own the series and want it to be successfull.

I don't see it bombing. The fact that they'll probably put it on inbetween Spongebob or Icarly airings will ensure it will have hold overs from those two shows.

The Stryker

11-18-2011, 10:49 AM

They'll advertise the hell out of it and give it star treatment on the network because they own the series and want it to be successfull.

They own TMNT so they could just make whatever money they can on dvd re-releases and the like. They won't keep a failing show on the air just because they own it.

That doesn't guarantee success at all and it's not a fact they'll put it in a timeslot between iCarly and Spongebob. It's all speculation at this point since we're A YEAR away from the show premiering.

k_lala

11-18-2011, 08:26 PM

That doesn't guarantee success at all and it's not a fact they'll put it in a timeslot between iCarly and Spongebob. It's all speculation at this point since we're A YEAR away from the show premiering.

Yeah i'm not worried about it, i'm confident it will do well. btw, TMNT 4Kids did pretty well. Someone said the low ratings, i'm not so sure about that. I mean 4Kids wasn't the best network but it wasn't the worst. I heard TMNT was one of or if not their highest rated show. I know a lot of people don't know about the 4Kids version but i think the ratings and show overall is still considered a success.

The Stryker

11-18-2011, 09:47 PM

It's easy to jump over the bar when it's an inch off the ground.

sdp

11-20-2011, 08:10 AM

There is no way TMNT Unlimited is not going to be a hit, I even made a thread about it months ago http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=33491

Candy Kappa

11-20-2011, 08:59 AM

TMNT Unlimited is a silly nick name

Jade

12-06-2011, 08:35 AM

I'd love to see it become the biggest thing on Nick, but who knows how this generation will take to the TMNT.

SherlockJr

12-06-2011, 08:38 AM

TMNT Unlimited is a silly nick name

What does the "unlimited" in the nickname mean anyway? Seems quite generic.

AK_Mikey_Fan

12-06-2011, 01:51 PM

I have a feeling it will be a success. Remembering how successful the last two shows were, maybe this one has a chance with a new generation of fans and with the older fans.

SherlockJr

12-06-2011, 02:24 PM

I don't necessarily think it will fail. At the very least, I think this series will be a moderate, under the radar success like the 4kids show.

Zany Orange Dude

12-06-2011, 03:04 PM

I don't necessarily think it will fail. At the very least, I think this series will be a moderate, under the radar success like the 4kids show.

I have to agree, that is the most probable outcome for this show based on pure estimation.
But who knows, this might be one of Nick's biggest shows. Think of how many current fans of TMNT are going to be watching it, plus the amount of kids from this generation who will end up liking it? That's quite a bit of people right there. Well, as long as the plots and animation are good there will be that many people watching it anyway.:tanime:

Redeemer

12-06-2011, 03:39 PM

I don't necessarily think it will fail. At the very least, I think this series will be a moderate, under the radar success like the 4kids show.

Highly doubt that. It is either going to be a great success or big flop. They r putting to much time and effort into this franchise now and Nick wants a huge return on there investment.
They r making a movie of TMNT!!!!! are they making a movie of power rangers????? No.

Power Rangers has been an under the radar success.
But TMNT is either going to be a big flop or Huge Success. and with the way the comics r selling and from what certain dromers r saying it looks like it will be a big success, my only concern is the CGI,

but with the younger generation growing up with more cgi shows and movies they may not care or notice!!!

CyberCubed

12-06-2011, 05:19 PM

Nick owns the TMNT franchise now, they're not going to let something they purchase for $60 million flop.

Its common sense, they're going to promote the hell out of it as their next big thing.

Redeemer

12-06-2011, 06:56 PM

Nick owns the TMNT franchise now, they're not going to let something they purchase for $60 million flop.

Its common sense, they're going to promote the hell out of it as their next big thing.

Agreed, I like how u make things so simple :P

k_lala

12-10-2011, 09:20 PM

Cowabunga Carl

12-11-2011, 12:00 AM

Oh I have no doubt that Nick is going to pour a lot of money into making this be a success. Like CyberCubed said they aren't going to put $60 million out and not try to recoup it. Plus all the money they put into the series. I mean just look at the voice cast they got. No reason to go after that type of talent if your not making this a priority.

I can see this being pushed and pushed hard. I'm hoping for at least 2 good seasons my self. I'm not going to get my hopes up. George Lucas taught me that lesson three times already. But regardless I expect Nick to bring their A game on this new series.

MikeandRaph87

01-02-2012, 03:51 PM

If we get a postively recieved movie and three seasons of another show I will be pleased. That will be successful in my eyes.

Metropoliskid41

01-02-2012, 04:03 PM

I think this series really has the potential to explode and have Turtle mania hit again. I know its going to be mainly aimed at Children but I really hope they follow Cartoon Network's lead here and make it much edgier like they did with Thundercats and Young Justice. I really hope the show follows Young Justice's example as opposed to being like Teen Titans. I guess thats the best way I can describe it. I really think they are going to plan to make this at least a 3 season series if not more. By that time hopefully we'll have at least one movie out and a successful toyline that will relaunch Turtle Mania and help keep interest in the show alive. But to me as long as its a well written show (like 2k3 was) then it should have no problem being successful.